Just for final clarification yes, we evolved from monkeys.

[Shemjaza]

Neanderthals never made it to the Western Hemisphere. Homo sapiens were able to do that because of their greater ability to travel - which, I assume, requires having more lower body strength for people who did not have equine companions. (Remember this was before tires and trains existed. I learned this stuff in a room at the Smithsonian Natural History Museum called Human History, which tells the story of hominid evolution from the extinct chimps that the first humans originated from to why only one human species remains today.

Humans didn't make it to the western hemisphere till after they'd met the Neanderthals either. It probably wasn't feasible from the part of Europe with that technology, even with the lower sea levels.

Have you see the bone structure of a Neanderthal? They were put together powerfully and hunted large prey up close.

 

[GodLovesCats]

Can you point out a specific problem?

There are multiple lines of evidence leading to the conclusion of common ancestry.

I have noticed over the years the only people who deny human evolution are Bible readers who insist Genesis 1-2 are meant to be interpreted literally with no wiggle room for necessary omission. These are the people who refuse to accept the extremely obvious fact that starting a holy book about God's love with stories of God's pre-human destruction would be counterproductive. A person who reads the Bible from cover to cover would deny God ls love immediately after reading Genesis 1 if it was about "survival of the fittest" evolution with millions of organisms God made ceasing to exist instead of solely focusing on the fact that He is the lone Creator and His love for everything He created.

 

[AV1611VET]

And I’m quite happy with it,nevertheless apes do have talent and comedic personalities

 

[Bradskii]

Neanderthals never made it to the Western Hemisphere.

Except the name originates from remains found in the Neander Valley (Neander Tal) in Germany.

 

[Shemjaza]

Except the name originates from remains found in the Neander Valley (Neander Tal) in Germany.

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I thought the western hemisphere referred to the Americas?

 

[Bradskii]

I thought the western hemisphere referred to the Americas?

I'll give you that. It's strictly anything west of the prime meridian which would include the west of Europe, but if it's the Americas you meant then you'd be right.

 

[USincognito]

I'll give you that. It's strictly anything west of the prime meridian which would include the west of Europe, but if it's the Americas you meant then you'd be right.

The prime meridian runs through England and France. Germany is east of those countries.

 

[Shemjaza]

The prime meridian runs through England and France. Germany is east of those countries.

But isn't there evidence for Neanderthals in Spain?

 

[USincognito]

With all due respect,and I mean this in no harshness or meanness,

At this point the argument from incredulity elicits little more than a dismissively, derisive chuckle.

The idea of mindless,poop throwing,moral-lacking,but slightly intelligent apes

The insipid cliché aside, which do you think they are "mindless" or "slightly intelligent"?

slowly becoming the most sophisticated and advanced species of life on the planet is preposterous and utterly absurd,

Huxley apocryphally addressed this "objection" 150 years ago.
>> As the debate unfolded, Wilberforce taunted Huxley about his possible ape ancestry, to which Huxley is claimed to have retorted: 'If then the question is put to me whether I would rather have a miserable ape for a grandfather or a man highly endowed by nature and possessed of great means of influence and yet employs these faculties and that influence for the purpose of introducing ridicule into a grave scientific discussion, I unhesitatingly affirm my preference for the ape.' <<

it makes absolutely no sense that the universe eventually decided to make itself,

This phrasing is absolutely bizarre. I wonder if the mentality that every has to come about due to an act of will or volition extends to things like hurricanes, because it's akin to someone asking how a hurricane "decided to make itself"? It's a dumb question with even dumber phrasing.

and from inanimate matter to become animate then eventually change from single felled organisms to multi-celled creatures,then from reptiles and amphibians to birds and mammals,it makes absolutely no sense.

I take it you've never read a biology textbook? Because they explain how it happened in a way even high schoolers can understand.

So I say it’s impossible because there are so many points arrogantly bypassed by using outrageous explanations that really go out onto limbs to defend.

Uh huh. I think the only thing being "arrogantly bypassed" is the literal libraries full of evidence supporting evolution that you're either ignorant of or chose to ignore.

 

[USincognito]

But isn't there evidence for Neanderthals in Spain?

Yes, but that has nothing to do with my response to Braskii nor the fact that the Neander Thal is in Germany, which is east of the prime meridian.

 

[Bradskii]

But isn't there evidence for Neanderthals in Spain?

Yeah, check the map I posted.

 

[Shemjaza]

ng to do with my response to Braskii nor the fact that the Neander Thal is in Germany, which is east of the prim

Sorry, I thought it was still a dispute about whether they had crossed into the Western hemisphere.

Yeah, check the map I posted.

Cool, so West of the Prime Meridian was where I was going.

 

[GodLovesCats]

I thought the western hemisphere referred to the Americas?

Of course it does - along with many islands and more.

All of Germany is east of the prime meridian.

 

[GodLovesCats]

But isn't there evidence for Neanderthals in Spain?

If there is, show me a link.

 

[USincognito]

Sorry, I thought it was still a dispute about whether they had crossed into the Western hemisphere.


Cool, so West of the Prime Meridian was where I was going.

Ah yes. I was restricting "western hemisphere" to the Americas, rather than to anything west of 0°.

 

[Bradskii]

If there is, show me a link.

Here is the link from which the map came from a few posts earlier.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neanderthal

But why would you question it anyway? They lived all over Europe.

 

[Shemjaza]

If there is, show me a link.

Here you go:
Sidrón Cave

 

[BeyondET]

With all due respect,and I mean this in no harshness or meanness,The idea of mindless,poop throwing,moral-lacking,but slightly intelligent apes

They're not mindless, and have morals. The love and wonder in amazement like humans really.

Sad this girl spent her life in cage, never saw the sun. Her expression in seeing the sun was priceless, certainly she was joyful.

 

[AV1611VET]

Sad this girl spent her life in cage,

This is the first thing I saw when I clicked on your post; and my mind immediately thought of the Skinner Box.

That immediately popped into my head.

 

[BeyondET]

This is the first thing I saw when I clicked on your post; and my mind immediately thought of the Skinner Box.

I've never heard of it, what is it?