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Judge Merchan orders Trump sentencing

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Yet no one cared to "investigate" it until he was running for POTUS the second time?
The understanding that Trump has been a life long con who constantly flouted the law is not new news.
 
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The understanding that Trump has been a life long con who constantly flouted the law is not new news.
The belief - yet that begs the question - if everyone always held this belief - why wasn't it investigated before his first term?
 
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The Court denied the motion. Though it should be noted that Alito was one of the four justices who voted in favor of blocking the sentencing.
 
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Yet no one cared to "investigate" it until he was running for POTUS the second time?

The belief - yet that begs the question - if everyone always held this belief - why wasn't it investigated before his first term?
Why wasn't this crime investigated earlier? It was unknown until first hints of it were reported in April 2018 (the existence of the payments by Cohen to Daniel). Cohen was charged for it and other crimes in Aug 2018. Cohen testified about the scheme in Feb 2019. At the time Trump was president. After he left office and the election of a new Manhattan DA in Spring 2021 that office began investigating the publically reported apparent crime. A grand jury met in Jan. 2023 and issued an indictment in March 2023.

This has been going on for a long time. It wasn't just suddenly started when he announced he was running again.
 
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Did they actually begin investigating in Spring of 2021?
 
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Did they actually begin investigating in Spring of 2021?
That's what the wikipedia article about the case says. (Of course the FBI/DOJ knew about it 3 years earlier and charged Michael Cohen for it then.)
 
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That's what the wikipedia article about the case says. (Of course the FBI/DOJ knew about it 3 years earlier and charged Michael Cohen for it then.)
Does it claim that though?

It claims that the investigation began "after" a new Manhattan DA in Spring of 2021 - that does not mean that the investigation began in the Spring of 2021.

And Trump announced his running for second term in Nov of 2022.
 
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Does it claim that though?

It claims that the investigation began "after" a new Manhattan DA in Spring of 2021 - that does not mean that the investigation began in the Spring of 2021.

And Trump announced his running for second term in Nov of 2022.
Either way, then how is it a problem? You were claiming they waited until he started running to investigate them. This is clearly false.
 
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Either way, then how is it a problem? You were claiming they waited until he started running to investigate them. This is clearly false.
How is what I claimed "clearly false"?
 
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Sad that it took so long?
 
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The decision of the American people was he was guilty of 34 felonies. I didn't think that the judge would give him any jail time but I did think that he would fine him.
 
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Democrats figured if they could pin a felony charge on Trump he would surely lose the election. Your strategy failed.
That sounds just like the ploy Republicans used to keep Joe Biden from being reelected. The difference is Republicans found nothing to charge Biden for but refused to drop their hearings because they wanted to adversely effect his campaign.

Joe was innocent but the Teflon Don II, slipped out of his by convincing many voters to help him. He can still be charged in four years,if he lives that long.

Praying for him and for Americans.
 
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Yeah, too bad voters picked a convicted felon to represent them. Oh well, hope they continue to get all that they voted for.
The fact there was an unconditional discharge proves this was not a serious case but was in fact a political hit job. The only victory here for the left is the ability to TEMPORARILY and gleefully use the phrase convicted felon. This injustice will be reversed on appeal.
 
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The decision of the American people was he was guilty of 34 felonies. I didn't think that the judge would give him any jail time but I did think that he would fine him.
This was not the decision of the “American people “ the American people voted on this In November.
 
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