Not at all. Jesus was 100% human. The point is we are not 100% human. We are in a state of death and corruption.
It does not contradict Scripture, which is all I am concerned about.
The means by which we are delivered from this state is through resurrection after the fashion of our Lord, who put on our human nature in order that it could be restored and glorified, which we see in evidence after His resurrection.
Where does the Nicene Creed say Jesus was born a sinner?Respectfully, if you disagree with or reject the Nicene Creed, you should respect the Statement of Purpose for this forum, and the site rules, and not post in Christian-only areas. I have not reported your posts and am trying to help you, by alerting you to the fact that you are posting in a part of the forum reserved for members who adhere to the Nicene Creed.
Mark, Jesus was God before Mary was born. So Mary is not the mother of God, per se. You could say that Mary was the mother of the Son of Man title of Jesus, though. Mary was the mother of Jesus - Jesus is God - before Mary existed.That leaves Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic. I guess we are all pretty much out then. LOL
Mary is the Mother of God; indisputable unless you deny the divinity of Christ. Period.
Mary is the mother of Jesus. Jesus is God. Thus Mary is the mother of God.Mark, Jesus was God before Mary was born. So Mary is not the mother of God, per se. You could say that Mary was the mother of the Son of Man title of Jesus, though. Mary was the mother of Jesus - Jesus is God - before Mary existed.
Jesus is the Son of God because he came forth from God.
Colossians 1:
15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
Mary is the mother of Jesus. Jesus is God. Thus Mary is the mother of God.
As I recall Calvin was horrified at some of the statements made against Mary and/or her role in salvation history.Indeed.
And this conclusion was reached not by us, here in the 21st century, but at the Council of Ephesus in 433 AD, and which was reiterated at the subsequent Council of Chalcedon, both of which are accepted by all major Protestant denominations.
Even John Calvin agreed with St. Mary’s status as Theotokos, which he did not want to do, for he held on to the same erroneous fear as Nestorius, that being the idea that recognizing her as Theotokos would lead to an excess of Marian veneration. However unlike Nestorius, Calvin at least was sufficiently honest with himself regarding the Scriptural texts, and sufficiently well read, also, I might note; it seems quite possible given the position of Calvin in time relative to the development of the Printing Press meant that he would have had more access to information than Nestorius and was more well read, although Nestorius clearly appears to have been literate, and indeed it is unlikely that an illiterate man could have become the Patriarch of Constantinople in the fourth century.
Where does the Nicene Creed say Jesus was born a sinner?
Because I never made that claim, but you seem to think I have to, in order to agree with the Nicene Creed.
So I am in trouble for being more Christian than other Christians?
As I recall Calvin was horrified at some of the statements made against Mary and/or her role in salvation history.
Of course, on the Cross, Jesus became sin for us.
Jesus showed Peter, James, and John on the Mount of Transfiguration, His full glory, way before he died on a Cross and was resurrected. The Cross did not change Jesus.
Hebrews 2 says, "..therefore the children share in flesh and blood, he himself likewise partook of the same nature, that through death he might destroy him who has the power of death, that is, the devil, and deliver all those who through fear of death were subject to lifelong bondage.. Therefore he had to be made like his brethren in every respect, so that he might become a merciful and faithful high priest in the service of God, to make expiation for the sins of the people. "Jesus did not have Adam's dead corruptible flesh.
Hebrews 2 says, "..therefore the children share in flesh and blood, he himself likewise partook of the same nature, that through death he might destroy him who has the power of death, that is, the devil, and deliver all those who through fear of death were subject to lifelong bondage.. Therefore he had to be made like his brethren in every respect, so that he might become a merciful and faithful high priest in the service of God, to make expiation for the sins of the people. "
This is the same message echoed in the Paschal Troparion (an ancient hymn of the Resurrection)
Christ is risen from the dead,
trampling down death by death,
and on those in the tombs bestowing life!
Adam sinned bringing death into the world and mankind. "..sin came into the world through one man and death through sin, and so death spread to all men.. because of one man’s trespass, death reigned through that one man, much more will those who receive the abundance of grace and the free gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man Jesus Christ."
Jesus absolutely takes on Adam's dead corruptible flesh in order to defeat death.
One of my favorite refrains is found in the Orthros Service just prior to the Doxology:
through Him who.. became incarnate, Hades has been captured, and Adam has been called back; the curse has been killed, and Eve has been freed; death has been put to death, and we have been brought back to life. Therefore we extol Him and cry out, “O Christ our God, You are blessed, for so was Your good pleasure. Glory to You!”
Jesus reverses what Adam has done.
He (Christ) is born, He lives (sinless), He dies and is resurrected and through this there is the good news that by becoming like Christ, in His life, we too can live.
There's is no part of the Gospel that is irrelevant, from Annunciation to birth, through Transfiguration, His death, burial and resurrection and on to His Glorious Second Coming every part of that story is for our salvation.
Mary is the mother of Jesus. Jesus is God. Thus Mary is the mother of God.
See 'mother of my Lord' instances in the King James Version (KJV).MOTHER OF GOD IN THE BIBLE
See 'mother of God' instances in the King James Version (KJV).www.kingjamesbibleonline.org
MOTHER OF GOD IN THE BIBLE
See 'mother of God' instances in the King James Version (KJV).www.kingjamesbibleonline.org
Then there's Matthew 1See 'mother of my Lord' instances in the King James Version (KJV).
"THE MOTHER OF MY LORD" IN THE BIBLE
See 'the mother of my lord' instances in the King James Version (KJV).www.kingjamesbibleonline.org
No, of course not.
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