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He refuses to speak of hell and the bottom line of why God's only begotten Son, Jesus the Christ came to earth. You might want to do some research.

This video breaks down what he believes in comparison to the Bible. Paul Washer is also highlighted as a reference point.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4EjygNheQk&feature=related
 
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I know that the bible is fulfilling when it says, "people will draw unto themselves teachers having intching ears." Most ministers today tell people what they want to hear. They water it down, and dress it up and like to tell stories without offending anybody. Well, in my thinking if you are not offended sometimes then the word is not doing you any good, because everyone does wrong and need to be corrected.
 
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Joel's preaching is Self Help, Humanistic, and New Age.
That is an improvement over Old Age Roman Catholicism in my view ;)

Luke 5:37 "And no one is casting Young Wine into Old skins, if yet no surely shall be ruined the Wine, the Young, of the skins, and it shall be being poured-out and its skin shall be perishing.
38 but Young/neon <3501> Wine into New skins is to be cast and both are preserved together.
39 and no one driking Old immediately is willing Young, for he is saying, 'for the the Old is kind/mellow'".

Hebrews 8:13 in the to be saying 'New,' He hath made Old the First. The yet being aged and being obsolete nigh of disappearance
 
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Originally Posted by LittleLambofJesus
I like the singers and a lot of his music he has in his group. Makes me want to get up and shake my booty!!! :)

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He's more of an inspirational speaker or life coach than a pastor. He really doesn't teach the Bible, but he might quote it once in a blue moon to back up a point.
(& unfortunately, even those few verses he does use are often taken out of their context & misused to suit his message).

This has been my issue, he is an inspirational teacher - Shepherds are people appointed to feed the flock. His poor congregation gets nothing but a diet of fattening dessert. (all the goodies without any meat n veg for healthy balance).

Pep rallies don't help in valleys - or in battle. You need solid foundation.
Hopefully they're seeking other teachers where doctrine is taught.

(oh & welcome to CF, it's nice to meet you) =0) :wave:
 
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I dont see how its normal for people who believe in God to put down him when all he does is talk positive and talk about how wonderful God is and things he can do for a persons life.
He hasnt done one single bad thing and yet some still want to put him down...for what?
For being good? For believing in God? He is being blessed by God right now.




I praise God every day I&#8217;m not &#8220;normal&#8221; And each and every day&#8230;I pray to be transformed by the power of the Holy Spirit to be less and less &#8220;normal&#8221; and more like our Lord and Savior Christ Jesus. He was sooooo not normal&#8230;they nailed Him to a cross&#8230;

I wonder what would happen if Joel preached this Gospel:

Luk 9:23 Then He said to them all, "If anyone desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow Me.
Luk 9:24 For whoever desires to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake will save it.
Luk 9:25 For what profit is it to a man if he gains the whole world, and is himself destroyed or lost?
Luk 9:26 For whoever is ashamed of Me and My words, of him the Son of Man will be ashamed when He comes in His own glory, and in His Father's, and of the holy angels.

Think about it for a second&#8230;what did the cross mean to those Jesus was speaking to?

It would be like Jesus saying today&#8230;.pick up your electric chair&#8230;or&#8230;pick up your lethal injection and follow me

I&#8217;m thinking, preaching this&#8230;the words of Christ Jesus Himself&#8230;would have a dramatic effect on Mr Osteen&#8217;s financial report (which is what I consider he&#8217;s really concerned about, otherwise, he would be feeding and equipping his flock&#8230;not leading them into a false sense of security based on their own strength&#8230;and his books)

&#8230;and that&#8217;s the concern I have&#8230;while it&#8217;s all well and good to preach the love of God and His great power and majesty over our lives&#8230;it&#8217;s contrary to the full measure of His Word&#8230;

Kinda reminds me of kids who get awards and trophies for simply showing up&#8230;EVERYBODY IS A WINNER&#8230;then when the disappointments, trials and tribulations of the world start popping up&#8230;they are not equipped to deal&#8230;and our teen suicide rate goes through the roof.

What are people going to think of God when they&#8217;re fed a steady diet of cotton candy and the rains come and the wind blows&#8230;and their not strong enough to stand?

Mat 13:18 "Therefore hear the parable of the sower:
Mat 13:19 When anyone hears the word of the kingdom, and does not understand it, then the wicked one comes and snatches away what was sown in his heart. This is he who received seed by the wayside.
Mat 13:20 But he who received the seed on stony places, this is he who hears the word and immediately receives it with joy;
Mat 13:21 yet he has no root in himself, but endures only for a while. For when tribulation or persecution arises because of the word, immediately he stumbles.
Mat 13:22 Now he who received seed among the thorns is he who hears the word, and the cares of this world and the deceitfulness of riches choke the word, and he becomes unfruitful.
Mat 13:23 But he who received seed on the good ground is he who hears the word and understands it, who indeed bears fruit and produces: some a hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty."


Where is Joel Osteen sowing seed? He is certainly not taking care to plant seeds on good ground.

Praise God&#8230;that even though His children would love to eat sweets all day long&#8230;He provides veggies and meat so that we can grow strong IN HIM. However, we can leave the table whenever we choose&#8230;and stroll on over to the buffet of cakes and cookies Mr Osteen serves up.

I have no problem with the man, himself, (that's between him and God) but I do however have grave concerns about his &#8220;self-help&#8221; message and those seeds being sown on the wayside and the stony and thorny ground.
 
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Originally Posted by GQ Chris
Joel's preaching is Self Help, Humanistic, and New Age.

That is an improvement over Old Age Roman Catholicism in my view ;)

Luke 5:37 "And no one is casting Young Wine into Old skins, if yet no surely shall be ruined the Wine, the Young, of the skins, and it shall be being poured-out and its skin shall be perishing.
38 but Young/neon <3501> Wine into New skins is to be cast and both are preserved together.
39 and no one driking Old immediately is willing Young, for he is saying, 'for the the Old is kind/mellow'".

Hebrews 8:13 in the to be saying 'New,' He hath made Old the First. The yet being aged and being obsolete nigh of disappearance

Self Help, Humanistic, and New Age are the antithesis of God.
 
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Joel sounds like the Anthony Robbins with Christian window dressing; the Prosperity Gospel he preaches fills Stadiums, if he preached Christ crucified, repentance, and the reality of Hell and walking the narrow road, people would leave in droves.
 
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Joel sounds like the Anthony Robbins with Christian window dressing; the Prosperity Gospel he preaches fills Stadiums, if he preached Christ crucified, repentance, and the reality of Hell and walking the narrow road, people would leave in droves.
beeeeeeeeeeeengo!
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