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Well great I am sure you can list all of the solutions she offered and tell us how great they worked. Congratulations on your new position as a member of the Kamala promotional team. Kamala is less qualified than Joe to be president but the gaslighting of the American public will be intense. Let the games begin.
It would be unethical on my part if I were to take Harris campaign funds while still on the Soros payroll*.
I do so enjoy a good goading and look forward to getting one soon since it’s been ever so long that I’ve had one.

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No need to spin it, he put the country over himself. He walks away a hero.
Does that make Pelosi a hero for threatening Joe with at least an implied 25th amendment. Seems like a very low threshold to be a hero. But I would expect nothing less.
 
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Does that make Pelosi a hero for threatening Joe with at least an implied 25th amendment. Seems like a very low threshold to be a hero. But I would expect nothing less.
What are you talking about.
 
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What are you talking about.
Pelosi told Joe he could do it the easy or the hard way. Joe chose the easy way and some think he is a hero. He was forced into the decision he made plain and simple.
 
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Pelosi told Joe he could do it the easy or the hard way. Joe chose the easy way and some think he is a hero. He was forced into the decision he made plain and simple.
Do you have support for that or are you just pulling that out of the air?
 
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Ok it has been established that Kamala's role was to "address the root cause". What has she addressed and what real effect has any of that actually had on the border crisis?

I read the "fact Sheet" which was full of political double speak which seems to have had no real measurable affect on much of anything.

Kamala has no qualifications to be President !
VP Kamala Harris is very qualified to be president. She was a prosecutor and then a District Attorney Gen. for San Francisco, and then Attorney General for California where she was regarded as tough on crime. She became a Senator in 2017 and then VP in 2021.
She is very educated and experienced.

Trump's term was a study in chaos. Now he has J.D. Vance as his VP if elected. J.D. graduated from Yale and wrote a book. He has served in congress for 2 years. He is not qualified to step up if anything happens to Trump, if elected.
 
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Trump's term was a study in chaos. Now he has J.D. Vance as his VP if elected. J.D. graduated from Yale and wrote a book. He has served in congress for 2 years. He is not qualified to step up if anything happens to Trump, if elected.
JD Vance has just as much political experience in the US Senate as did Barack Obama. Also, JD Vance was a successful businessman and capitalist before he went into politics. I have zero problems at all with the Vance's qualifications. Likewise, I don't have any problem at all with the political qualifications of Kamala Harris.
 
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JD Vance has just as much political experience in the US Senate as did Barack Obama. Also, JD Vance was a successful businessman and capitalist before he went into politics. I have zero problems at all with the Vance's qualifications. Likewise, I don't have any problem at all with the political qualifications of Kamala Harris.
Yeah, I forgot he was a venture capitolist with a real negative view of Trump.
But the same amount of political experience as Obama. Not hardly. Obama was a constitutional lawyer, and a community organizer. Then he was a Senator for 4 years. J.D.'s background is not law.
 
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What are you talking about.
Pelosi told Joe he could do it the easy or the hard way. Joe chose the easy way and some think he is a hero. He was forced into the decision he made plain and simple.
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Yeah, I forgot he was a venture capitolist with a real negative view of Trump.
But the same amount of political experience as Obama. Not hardly. Obama was a constitutional lawyer, and a community organizer. Then he was a Senator for 4 years. J.D.'s background is not law.
I would rather have the experience of a former Marine who served his country in the military, who was a venture capitalist, over that of a community organizer any day of the week and twice on Sundays. :)
 
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I would rather have the experience of a former Marine who served his country in the military, who was a venture capitalist, over that of a community organizer any day of the week and twice on Sundays. :)
Are we really saying that’s all Obama had to him? He was a “community organizer?” LoL, k.
 
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Are we really saying that’s all Obama had to him? He was a “community organizer?” LoL, k.
*hehehe*

Naw, what I was doing was comparing Vance's and Obama's experiences before they had become politicians. :)
 
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I would rather have the experience of a former Marine who served his country in the military, who was a venture capitalist, over that of a community organizer any day of the week and twice on Sundays. :)
I notice you left out the law school and legal civil rights work and neighborhood development.

J.D. is a flip-flopper who had stated in the past that Trump is like Hitler and other negative things. He is backed by Peter Thiel who is a gay man who does not like women and doesn't think they should vote. In the past, JD has advocated that women stay married even if the man is physically abusive to her. wow.
 
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Do you have support for that or are you just pulling that out of the air?
From the link below: “For the Democrats, if there is one person who they need to be praised for convincing Joe Biden to end his election campaign, it will be the former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. Pelosi had taken a tough stand which forced the US President to end his campaign. Many people speaking to Politico said that Pelosi informed Biden that they could do this in the easy way or the hard way.” What was the final warning issued by Nancy Pelosi that convinced Joe Biden to quit the presidential race?
 
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JD Vance has just as much political experience in the US Senate as did Barack Obama.
Actually, he has about half. By the time the election comes, he will have about 2 years in the Senate. By the time Obama was elected, he had just under four years in the US Senate. I also noticed you specifically limited it to the Senate and ignored the fact that Obama also had significant experience in the state legislature of the sixth biggest state of the country. The sum total of Vance's political experience is the less then two years he has in the Senate.

Also, JD Vance was a successful businessman and capitalist before he went into politics.
I'm not sure what that has to do with qualifications for VP since being the VP isn't the same as being a venture capitalist.
I have zero problems at all with the Vance's qualifications.
I will say, at least he has more qualifications then Trump did when he ran for President the first time.
Likewise, I don't have any problem at all with the political qualifications of Kamala Harris.
Why would you though? She had pretty impressive qualifications. 6 years as the AG of the largest state in the country, 4 years in the US Senate and 4 years as VP. That's even discounting her time as DA, which is an elected position in CA. The qualifications don't even begin to compare.
 
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"Many people say..."

It is conjecture.
He made the decision and it is to be regarded as an example for future leaders. The country comes first.
 
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"Many people say..."

It is conjecture.
He made the decision and it is to be regarded as an example for future leaders. The country comes first.
Well now this obviously from a whistle blower. Who in the know would actually put their name out there to incur the wrath of Pelosi. It is obvious Joe was pressured by Pelosi, Schumer and Jeffries This is a totally believable scenario given how Joe was previously dug in. In any event he was forced out. Spin if you will Joe is no hero in this matter. And I didn’t pull this out of the air. If it was country first Joe would have left long ago.
 
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Well now this obviously from a whistle blower. Who in the know would actually put their name out there to incur the wrath of Pelosi. It is obvious Joe was pressured by Pelosi, Schumer and Jeffries This is a totally believable scenario given how Joe was previously dug in. In any event he was forced out. Spin if you will Joe is no hero in this matter. And I didn’t pull this out of the air. If it was country first Joe would have left long ago.
You are assuming the 25th amendment was the threat. That has to be done by his cabinet and VP, not Nancy Pelosi. The 25th amendment would be used to to remove a president from office, not to make him unable to run for president. The hard way would be done at the convention. .


And yeah, Joe Biden is being patriotic and cares about the country. He is giving up power.
 
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You are assuming the 25th amendment was the threat. That has to be done by his cabinet and VP, not Nancy Pelosi. The 25th amendment would be used to to remove a president from office, not to make him unable to run for president. The hard way would be done at the convention. .


And yeah, Joe Biden is being patriotic and cares about the country. He is giving up power.
In my first post I said 25 th was implied. I don’t think your convention theory is plausible, because: there you are dealing with many delegates who are not beholden to Pelosi’s threats. They are there to represent voters which by the way has gone out the window. Joe is no hero in this matter no how many times it is shouted from the roof tops. He was forced out if don’t believe me just ask Jill and Hunter.
 
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