Joe Will Step Down after 2024

[AlexB23]

Alright, here is an update from AP. The AP has strict, almost draconian copyright rules, so I can only quote one sentence, well, I did three, cos it gets more meaning out of it. Hopefully, this is okay.

Quote from AP: "A party’s presumptive presidential nominee has never stepped out of the race so close to the election. President Lyndon Johnson, besieged by the Vietnam War, announced in March 1968 that he would not seek another term after just a single state’s primary. Biden’s July decision comes after more than 14 million Democrats cast votes supporting him through the primary process."

Update:

Biden drops out of 2024 race after disastrous debate inflamed age concerns. VP Harris gets his nod

Biden plans to serve out the remainder of his term in office, which ends at noon ET on Jan. 20, 2025.

apnews.com

 

[AlexB23]

The Guardian also has an update. This newspaper is a little less strict on copyright, so here is a screen capture of Joe's quote.

From: The Guardian

The Guardian's update:

Joe Biden withdraws from presidential race after weeks of pressure to quit

President endorses Kamala Harris to lead Democratic ticket just four months before November election

www.theguardian.com

 

[Richard T]

The democrats are calculating so here are my thoughts on Harris and the process for candidacy Biden endorses Harris but does not resign. Why? It seems it would be better to take her training wheels off. If the country does OK for the months prior to the election, then more would vote for her. So the reasons why Biden does not resign?

1) Perhaps Biden is too self-centered to allow that or maybe he has it already planned?

2) Perhaps there is a national security issue that is ongoing right now and they can't transition. Seems unlikely and very scary, but certainly possible.

3) The democrats feel Harris is not ready. Can she really field interviews, be in the public eye etc? She is going to have to do some of that though anyway. They cannot shield her forever.

4) The dems are waiting for the poll numbers on Harris. If she is President it is so much harder to pull the plug. By keeping her VP during this awkward transition already, they can move to another candidate that has higher numbers if the polls suggest this. If she is already President it will be hard for the public to understand why she has to move back down, especially since gender and race is different. This is a calculating move., because if there is another candidate coming then harris can still be VP, likely if she is on board. If this scenario is the case, then Biden, Harris and everyone is on board. I know that some say Harris gets Biden campaign funds. However, if she is still VP why wouldn't the new President be able to access those funds? This premise is based on the assumption the democrats will do everything they can to win against Trump. It is like moneyball in baseball and the hitter or pitcher is the one with the most numbers. They only thing though is that there is only one chance so it may seem like all is settled but I am doubtful.

I have to say biden's predictability in stepping down was shown. When a politician or bankruptcy is in the final stages, the denials are always the strongest. It started with just a few negative comments and people and started snowballing. It was likely planned for this possibility even before the debate. It is smart to have planning for transitions. The parties would be better served to allow the runner up to always be the Vice President. Impossible? Consider the opposite party runner up used to be VP from the Presidential race. When Did the Vice Presidency Stop Going to the 2nd Place Winner and More Questions From Our Readers
Why should the President get to pick? Originally they did not. It would take away most of the smooze talk, of the weaker candidates and offer the first runner up a prize. It would make the candidates realize they may have to work together.

Anyway just a few thoughts on the process going on right now. Not even the dems know for sure who their candidate is. The polls are not out yet.

 

[AlexB23]

The democrats are calculating so here are my thoughts on Harris and the process for candidacy Biden endorses Harris but does not resign. Why? It seems it would be better to take her training wheels off. If the country does OK for the months prior to the election, then more would vote for her. So the reasons why Biden does not resign?

1) Perhaps Biden is too self-centered to allow that or maybe he has it already planned?

2) Perhaps there is a national security issue that is ongoing right now and they can't transition. Seems unlikely and very scary, but certainly possible.

3) The democrats feel Harris is not ready. Can she really field interviews, be in the public eye etc? She is going to have to do some of that though anyway. They cannot shield her forever.

4) The dems are waiting for the poll numbers on Harris. If she is President it is so much harder to pull the plug. By keeping her VP during this awkward transition already, they can move to another candidate that has higher numbers if the polls suggest this. If she is already President it will be hard for the public to understand why she has to move back down, especially since gender and race is different. This is a calculating move., because if there is another candidate coming then harris can still be VP, likely if she is on board. If this scenario is the case, then Biden, Harris and everyone is on board. I know that some say Harris gets Biden campaign funds. However, if she is still VP why wouldn't the new President be able to access those funds? This premise is based on the assumption the democrats will do everything they can to win against Trump. It is like moneyball in baseball and the hitter or pitcher is the one with the most numbers. They only thing though is that there is only one chance so it may seem like all is settled but I am doubtful.

I have to say biden's predictability in stepping down was shown. When a politician or bankruptcy is in the final stages, the denials are always the strongest. It started with just a few negative comments and people and started snowballing. It was likely planned for this possibility even before the debate. It is smart to have planning for transitions. The parties would be better served to allow the runner up to always be the Vice President. Impossible? Consider the opposite party runner up used to be VP from the Presidential race. When Did the Vice Presidency Stop Going to the 2nd Place Winner and More Questions From Our Readers
Why should the President get to pick? Originally they did not. It would take away most of the smooze talk, of the weaker candidates and offer the first runner up a prize. It would make the candidates realize they may have to work together.

Anyway just a few thoughts on the process going on right now. Not even the dems know for sure who their candidate is. The polls are not out yet.

I would say #3 as well, but political science is not my strength.

 

[RileyG]

Ironically, I feel better about him as our president now than I ever have. I never thought he’d step back, never in a million. In removing himself, he did the most unequivocally presidential, people/country first thing one can do as a leader.

Now I’m going to bask in the few hours I can pretend that Michelle Obama will run in his place before moving on to the hard work.

As a Republican, I'd feel safer and happier with Michelle Obama being President over Biden anyway...I think she's very intelligent and well spoken even if I don't agree with her. She at least has a good heart and wanted to make Americans healthier by fighting obesity etc.

 

[Richard T]

I would say #3 as well, but political science is not my strength.

Everyone is political Alex, I am glad though it is not your motivating force. Praise God for that. It looks like I might be wrong on some of this. Harris is looking good for the candidacy, but the polls are not out yet. I saw Michael Moore said Biden should step down now so Americans can see Harris. he is right on that.

If Biden has been incompetent as many believe, Harris is not presidential material because the VP and Cabinet have to do their constitutional duty. If she could not pull the plug on her boss, then can she make other tough decisions if she is President? I pray we are not tested by enemies now but it sure seems likely. I guess we will see what the polls show. The democrats do not have the luxury of hearing Harris in a debate. I am sure her speech writers will do a great job at the convention though. To me Harris is pretty intelligent, plus her prosecutor experience seems good to me. A big problem with Harris is that she will have no influence on Middle East politics except perhaps negatively. It is not acceptable culturally for Middle East leaders to be led by a woman. Sure they might be nice, especially if she abandons Israel more, but they will not accept much leadership from her. God bless!

 

[AlexB23]

Everyone is political Alex, I am glad though it is not your motivating force. Praise God for that. It looks like I might be wrong on some of this. Harris is looking good for the candidacy, but the polls are not out yet. I saw Michael Moore said Biden should step down now so Americans can see Harris. he is right on that.

If Biden has been incompetent as many believe, Harris is not presidential material because the VP and Cabinet have to do their constitutional duty. If she could not pull the plug on her boss, then can she make other tough decisions if she is President? I pray we are not tested by enemies now but it sure seems likely. I guess we will see what the polls show. The democrats do not have the luxury of hearing Harris in a debate. I am sure her speech writers will do a great job at the convention though. To me Harris is pretty intelligent, plus her prosecutor experience seems good to me. A big problem with Harris is that she will have no influence on Middle East politics except perhaps negatively. It is not acceptable culturally for Middle East leaders to be led by a woman. Sure they might be nice, especially if she abandons Israel more, but they will not accept much leadership from her. God bless!

Yep, a lot of folks are political, while some are non-political. We will have to see what the next ~100 days bring. Also, the US should stay out of the Middle East, so this might be good for us as a whole. Pray that our country, and the world chooses the best leaders and that God's will be done, regardless of who is in office.

 

[Postvieww]

Kamala has experience as the border czar.

She has the title but has done nothing to gain experience.

 

[Postvieww]

. In removing himself, he did the most unequivocally presidential, people/country first thing one can do as a leader.

Joe is no hero. Pelosi told him he could do it the easy way or the hard way . Joe chose the easy way. Joe was forced out by his own party.?

 

[AlexB23]

We need a different Joe in office. St. Joseph was born outside of the US during the 1st century BC, but he loved his wife Mary, and his son, born incarnate via God and Mary. He took care of his wife, and his children. Now, if only we could have a president who put that much care into the US citizens.

Joseph of Nazareth, anime style by by the artist Gabriel.

 

[Arcangl86]

She has the title but has done nothing to gain experience.

Actually she doesn't have "the title" because is no such title. "Border Czar" was something made up by Republicans to hang responsibility for the border on her, based on a misunderstanding or misrepresentation of her actual assignment by Biden. She was assigned to try and address some of the root causes of migration, primarily from the Northern Triangle, through economic and diplomatic means. Actual control of the border and border policy wasn't part of her responsibility. There is already a cabinet secretary with that remit, the Secretary of Homeland Security.

 

[Pommer]

She has the title but has done nothing to gain experience.

The “title” is made up by her critics, she was put in charge of finding out the root causes for the present wave of immigration and to offer solutions and set policy goals.

Anyone is free to make up titles and responsibilities for politicians, the rest of us are are free to understand that “made up” titles aren’t anything to get worked up about, since they’re not real.

 

[Postvieww]

The “title” is made up by her critics, she was put in charge of finding out the root causes for the present wave of immigration and to offer solutions and set policy goals.

Anyone is free to make up titles and responsibilities for politicians, the rest of us are are free to understand that “made up” titles aren’t anything to get worked up about, since they’re not real.

Well great I am sure you can list all of the solutions she offered and tell us how great they worked. Congratulations on your new position as a member of the Kamala promotional team. Kamala is less qualified than Joe to be president but the gaslighting of the American public will be intense. Let the games begin.

 

[Postvieww]

She was assigned to try and address some of the root causes of migration, primarily from the Northern Triangle, through economic and diplomatic means.

And her findings were???? And they accomplished what????

 

[wing2000]

On February 2, 2021, President Biden signed an Executive Order that called for the development of a Root Causes Strategy.

Since March, Vice President Kamala Harris has been leading the Administration’s diplomatic efforts to address the root causes of migration from El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras. She has worked with bilateral, multilateral, and private sector partners, as well as civil society leaders, to help people from the region find hope at home. This complements work done throughout the U.S. government over the last six months to learn lessons from prior efforts and to consult with a wide range of stakeholders to inform the development of this strategy.

FACT SHEET: Strategy to Address the Root Causes of Migration in Central America | The White House

On February 2, 2021, President Biden signed an Executive Order that called for the development of a Root Causes Strategy.Since March, Vice President

www.whitehouse.gov

As others have stated, Harris was not charged addressing border security.

 

[Richard T]

Yep, a lot of folks are political, while some are non-political. We will have to see what the next ~100 days bring. Also, the US should stay out of the Middle East, so this might be good for us as a whole. Pray that our country, and the world chooses the best leaders and that God's will be done, regardless of who is in office.

The best definition of politics is from Harold Lasswell in the 1950s who defined politics as “who gets what, when, how.” Politics exist even in families and every job. But yes, you are right that some are far more active in national and local elections. I understand politics some but am not too active. It is best to pray and trust God just like in anything. As to foreign affairs, the Houthis are attacking USA and other ships. I think the conflict will widen. It's interesting because it could be a precursor to the end times.

 

[AlexB23]

The best definition of politics is from Harold Lasswell in the 1950s who defined politics as “who gets what, when, how.” Politics exist even in families and every job. But yes, you are right that some are far more active in national and local elections. I understand politics some but am not too active. It is best to pray and trust God just like in anything. As to foreign affairs, the Houthis are attacking USA and other ships. I think the conflict will widen. It's interesting because it could be a precursor to the end times.

We are close to the Great Tribulation. But yes, that is a good quote. Politics can be on a small scale (family, workplace, school), or on a global scale (geopolitics), or in between (city, state/province, national). Hopefully, this attack on the ships ends.

 

[Postvieww]

On February 2, 2021, President Biden signed an Executive Order that called for the development of a Root Causes Strategy.

Since March, Vice President Kamala Harris has been leading the Administration’s diplomatic efforts to address the root causes of migration from El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras. She has worked with bilateral, multilateral, and private sector partners, as well as civil society leaders, to help people from the region find hope at home. This complements work done throughout the U.S. government over the last six months to learn lessons from prior efforts and to consult with a wide range of stakeholders to inform the development of this strategy.

FACT SHEET: Strategy to Address the Root Causes of Migration in Central America | The White House

On February 2, 2021, President Biden signed an Executive Order that called for the development of a Root Causes Strategy.Since March, Vice President

www.whitehouse.gov

As others have stated, Harris was not charged addressing border security.

Ok it has been established that Kamala's role was to "address the root cause". What has she addressed and what real effect has any of that actually had on the border crisis?

I read the "fact Sheet" which was full of political double speak which seems to have had no real measurable affect on much of anything.

Kamala has no qualifications to be President !

 

[Tropical Wilds]

Joe is no hero. Pelosi told him he could do it the easy way or the hard way . Joe chose the easy way. Joe was forced out by his own party.?

He absolutely did the most admirable thing one could do. Trump would never, ever do such a thing. He’d watch the country burn down first.

 

[Postvieww]

He absolutely did the most admirable thing one could do. Trump would never, ever do such a thing. He’d watch the country burn down first.

Spin it however you wish he was forced out.