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Do I need to take you through the Bible and prove the saved are referred to as saints?

No, I’m a Christian, I understand that.
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I actually said he “cast “ them as saints or in others words portrayed or implied they were saints. He has outright called conservatives evil I guess that is tit for tat since I have called many liberals evil.

My guess is that many liberals are saints, as are many conservatives. Yes, there are also evil liberals and evil conservatives.
 
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My guess is that many liberals are saints, as are many conservatives. Yes, there are also evil liberals and evil conservatives.
. Yes but social programs by politicians will not be“salvific”. Feeding the hungry is commanded but in my opinion which I believe I can back up with scripture is not an overshadowing command that can be used by those that twist scripture and facts to belittle a pro life stand.
Matthew 26:7 There came unto him a woman having an alabaster box of very precious ointment, and poured it on his head, as he sat at meat.

8 But when his disciples saw it, they had indignation, saying, To what purpose is this waste?

9 For this ointment might have been sold for much, and given to the poor.

10 When Jesus understood it, he said unto them, Why trouble ye the woman? for she hath wrought a good work upon me.

11 For ye have the poor always with you; but me ye have not always.

12 For in that she hath poured this ointment on my body, she did it for my burial. Care for the poor is righteous but to place it over the care for human life in importance is not scripturally supported.
 
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Healthcare is mine. Which being an EMT makes sense.
Health care is important to me as well I am 66 years old. I also remember the promises that premiums would go down and if you want to keep your doctors you can. Neither was true. I also remember we must pass the bill to find out what is in it. Health Care is very important but the drive by liberals to socialize the entire industry will not bring the promised utopia.
 
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. Yes but social programs by politicians will not be“salvific”. Feeding the hungry is commanded but in my opinion which I believe I can back up with scripture is not an overshadowing command that can be used by those that twist scripture and facts to belittle a pro life stand.
Matthew 26:7 There came unto him a woman having an alabaster box of very precious ointment, and poured it on his head, as he sat at meat.

8 But when his disciples saw it, they had indignation, saying, To what purpose is this waste?

9 For this ointment might have been sold for much, and given to the poor.

10 When Jesus understood it, he said unto them, Why trouble ye the woman? for she hath wrought a good work upon me.

11 For ye have the poor always with you; but me ye have not always.

12 For in that she hath poured this ointment on my body, she did it for my burial. Care for the poor is righteous but to place it over the care for human life in importance is not scripturally supported.
And you are entitled to your opinion, but that is all you are giving us is opinion. Others may disagree.
 
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Health care is important to me as well I am 66 years old. I also remember the promises that premiums would go down and if you want to keep your doctors you can. Neither was true. I also remember we must pass the bill to find out what is in it. Health Care is very important but the drive by liberals to socialize the entire industry will not bring the promised utopia.

I'm not sure if you realize it or not, but the ACA that is in place now isn't what Obama had originally had submitted. The GOP stripped it down to what you see now. It was the only way the Republicans would allow it to pass.

What Obama had originally was better than what we have now.
 
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I'm not sure if you realize it or not, but the ACA that is in place now isn't what Obama had originally had submitted. The GOP stripped it down to what you see now. It was the only way the Republicans would allow it to pass.
What did they strip out other than the unconstitutional individual mandate?
 
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What did they strip out other than the unconstitutional individual mandate?

I'm talking about before it became law. And while I wasn't happy with the mandate, I understood why it was there and was okay with it being there.
 
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These are facts, facts are evidence. Stay tuned.
Except all we heard was the opinion of a single legislator. Where is the evidence?
 
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The Federal Election Commission has the final say as to who won and the last I checked

They don't. Votes are counted, the electors vote for whoever the people they represent voted for, the electoral college votes are forwarded to congress, and congress counts certifies the combined electoral college vote. The FEC doesn't come into it, they are an advisory and regulatory body.
 
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Except all we heard was the opinion of a single legislator. Where is the evidence?
Are you serious? Opinion of one legislator? He was recapping facts presented in the hearing. With all due respect you are ignoring a lot of facts or just don’t want to know them because they don’t fit your narrative. If you can brush off the fraud in this election with a clear conscious you have my prayers. Stay tuned. This is just getting started. Hold on you may not like the ride.
 
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Are you serious? Opinion of one legislator? He was recapping facts presented in the hearing. With all due respect you are ignoring a lot of facts or just don’t want to know them because they don’t fit your narrative. If you can brush off the fraud in this election with a clear conscious you have my prayers. Stay tuned. This is just getting started. Hold on you may not like the ride.
Actually he was offering his opinion of what was said at the hearing. He is not unbiased, he admitted that he filed an impeachment action against the Pennsylvania Supreme Court. You are the one who needs prayers because you are ignoring reality. There was no significant fraud in this election. If you don’t agree with the decision by the Pennsylvania Supreme Court, how do you explain yesterday’s decision by the Third Circuit? If the facts are there the court should have found for Trump, but there was no evidence. BTW, the opinion was written by a Trump apppintee.
 
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Are you serious? Opinion of one legislator? He was recapping facts presented in the hearing. With all due respect you are ignoring a lot of facts or just don’t want to know them because they don’t fit your narrative.
...that's some pretty serious irony right there.

If you can brush off the fraud in this election with a clear conscious you have my prayers.
The "fraud" no one can quite prove but some are still convinced must be there because how else could president Trump lose re-election unless there was fraud? That would only leave Joe Biden got more votes than President Trump.

Stay tuned. This is just getting started.
Or it's almost over and now all that's left is for President Trump to send out a bunch more "WE NEED YOU TO SEND US MORE MONEY!!" messages.

Hold on you may not like the ride.
Oh I don't know...watching President Trump and his legal team's cases get thrown out of court time after time has been pretty fun so far.
tulc(is also looking forward to watching President -elect Biden become President Biden in Jan) :wave:
 
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Stay tuned. This is just getting started. Hold on you may not like the ride

Lol yes, the world can look forward to many more years of ‘the evidence will appear any minute now...just wait til Wednesday...honest there’ll be massive evidence...the evidence is coming’.

Fortunately for the GOP there actually are some representatives who are able to think, if they are savvy they’ll be working to secure the blue collar votes the Democratic Party lost with president Clinton. All this nonsensical hoo-ha might be of some use in that but they’ll need a better strategy in the long term.
 
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Every time Pelosi or Joe Scarborough open their mouths. Take your pick.

And Donald Trump, any time he opens his mouth. Which renders your point moot, but I will entertain it nonetheless.

Here are some quotes from Joe Scarborough, that you claim are “open venomous hate. I invite our readers to peruse them for themselves to see the type of things you find venomous and hateful.

Joe Scarborough Quotations at QuoteTab

And now some from Pelosi, which are, according to you equally venomous and hateful:

Top 30 quotes of NANCY PELOSI famous quotes and sayings | inspringquotes.us

And for contrast, here are some upstanding, pure of heart Donald Trump quotes you ostensibly find uplifting, full of moral fiber, good character, and absolutely Christ like in their purity, kindness and compassion:

The 15 most offensive things that have come out of Trump’s mouth

I’ll leave the discernment to our readers.
 
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Sounds like a ringing endorsement for the right to murder babies to me. A well worded but camouflaged support of murder. You should be ashamed of yourself. Quote me some more scripture on this. Can you fit this into Matthew 25?
Irrelevant.
Scripture has no relevance whatsoever to an argument about the constitutionality of anything.

it’s akin to claiming a lawnmower repair manual is the authoritative document on which tools and fixtures are needed to fix a leaky faucet...

If you want to argue about the constitutionality of it, then stick to the constitution. If you want to argue about the scriptural warrant for or against, then stick to scripture.

If you want to talk about fixing the lawnmower, stick to the lawnmower repair manual. If you want to talk about fixing the faucet, stick to the faucet repair manual.

Your argument crumbles when you claim something is not constitutional because of a certain scripture, same as if you claim something is not scriptural, because of a clause in the constitution.
 
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Listen or not . If not claims of no evidence are baseless.?
One hour 40 minutes. I don’t have time to listen to this. Perhaps you could provide a synopsis. If evidence is out there why isn’t it being presented in court?
 
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If evidence is out there why isn’t it being presented in court?
Didn’t you hear Donald Trump yesterday? It’s just needs to be heard “correctly” by better judges. And yes, he was literally “phoning that in”.
 
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