Joe Biden Wins

[Isilwen]

Unless you are prepared to discern they are all liars I guess we will just have to take them at their word.?

Have they been found to be telling the truth in a court of law? Until then it's an allegation and doesn't mean it's true.

 

[Postvieww]

I told you to look it up. Please do.

Will you look up the actual eye witness accounts of voter fraud. If you will I will.

 

[Postvieww]

Have they been found to be telling the truth in a court of law? Until then it's an allegation and doesn't mean it's true.

Sworn testimony is evidence in a court of law until proven false.

 

[Isilwen]

Sworn testimony is evidence in a court of law until proven false.

So then tell me, why are all these lawsuits being thrown out? If these testimonies are true, then these lawsuits wouldn't be thrown out or his lawyer's dropping them.

 

[Isilwen]

Will you look up the actual eye witness accounts of voter fraud. If you will I will.

I have and apparently, the courts haven't agreed that they are true.

 

[Isilwen]

I am going to make this my last post. I have better things to do than argue with people who are unwilling to accept that Biden has won and the people have spoken.

I am looking forward to four years of not what we just had four years of!

 

[Postvieww]

So then tell me, why are all these lawsuits being thrown out? If these testimonies are true, then these lawsuits wouldn't be thrown out or his lawyer's dropping them.

Show me one specific lawsuit brought by Trump team that was thrown out because of false eye witness testimony. Several cases brought by other individuals have been thrown out they do not count against Trump team. This process is just getting started. We have to get by the liberal judges first then to the Supreme Court. One case in Pennsylvania that went against Trump team was. 5 to 2 decision. Can you guess how the 5 to 2 went? Yep 5 liberals 2 conservatives. This is not over. There is plenty of evidence not yet shown in court. Some cases to date have been asking for injunctions to delay certification.

 

[parousia70]

Is it conservatives doing the threatening?

Just wondering.

Happy to educate you.
You can wonder no more.

https://nypost.com/2020/11/18/arizo...katie-hobbs-gets-post-election-death-threats/

Georgia secretary of state and wife receive death threats amid election recount

Venting or violence? Police probe death threats against Gov. Pritzker over his COVID-19 orders

Man Faces Terrorism Charge After Threatening to Kill Michigan’s Governor, Officials Say

Making threats of violence undermines our self-government

 

[pescador]

Show me one specific lawsuit brought by Trump team that was thrown out because of false eye witness testimony. Several cases brought by other individuals have been thrown out they do not count against Trump team. This process is just getting started. We have to get by the liberal judges first then to the Supreme Court. One case in Pennsylvania that went against Trump team was. 5 to 2 decision. Can you guess how the 5 to 2 went? Yep 5 liberals 2 conservatives. This is not over. There is plenty of evidence not yet shown in court. Some cases to date have been asking for injunctions to delay certification.

"The sky is falling, the sky is falling" Chicken Little

Trump lost the election. Biden got more votes than any candidate in history. Get over it!

 

[parousia70]

Are we making some progress here?

If by "making progress" you mean the removal of your ignorance about a position I've always held, then yes we are.

This is an opinionated assumption based on no discernible facts. I gave you an example of a good faith effort by Trump to rectify this evil, not to raise money as you claim.

50 years of willful, feckless Republican inaction since Roe and Trump throws the Cons a toothless bone? OK sure.

If you would like to go tit for tat on examples of Evil liberals vs conservatives that would be fun. Actually since you opened the door I am going to step through it with both feet. Many liberal policies and actions are DEMONICALLY inspired.

OK, I'll play:
Many CONSERVATIVE policies and actions are DEMONICALLY inspired.
See how easy that was?

policies Your attempt to transfer the words of Jesus in Matthew 25 to "saintly" liberal politicians is laughable.

Your contention that Jesus will look upon those on His left, and accept their answer of "well Lord, when we refused to feed the Hungry, we did so purely as part of our political party's objectives, which are exempt from your admonition"... is what is laughable, or would be if it weren't so Demonic..

Jesus was not commanding a political party to feed the hungry.

Ok... nor does He command any political party to end legal abortion, or even fight against it.

So, based on your assertion, I guess we can say that there are a grand total of ZERO Biblical principles and values that are commanded of ANY political party to uphold then, right?

And If that's the case, then deciding on who to vote for based on which party more closely upholds biblical values ought to be moot, since we have ascertained no such Biblical command or admonition exists for ANY political party to uphold ANY Biblical values, right?

Even if your saintly liberals feed the hungry they will lose all reward for demonic motives.

If conservatives were to end legal abortion tomorrow (which they of course could, but they WON'T), yet continue to take food security away from the hungry, remove access to affordable healthcare, turn away asylum seekers after they snatch their children from them, they still don't get to move to Jesus' Right side.
Jesus words in Matthew 25 contain no such "unless you're against legal abortion" caveat, get around or loophole, as you would hope they did..

You know very well there a members of both parties at Bohemian Grove. I guess underlining “Mostly” is your disclaimer without having to actually say liberals participate in this evil gathering as well.

It's clear you have no problem with the Conservative majority there... they somehow get a free pass from you to practice pagan ritual sacrifice to a Stone Idol of Molech... As long as they give lip service to ending abortion, I guess Molech sacrifice it's perfectly fine as far as you are concerned.

I believe Trump has never been there.

So what?
Neither has Obama, Biden, Schumer, Schiff, Hoyer...
Its far and away a CONSERVATIVE majority of members and guests and ALWAYS has been.
But again, as long as they claim to be anti abortion, and vote to confirm conservative idologue judges that have no experience, you appear to be perfectly happy looking the other way regarding their demonic summer Molech Sacrifice ritual habit. There appear to be at least SOME ends that justify the means of them making a deal with the devil, for you.

False charge! I have never said the passages in Matthew are not Biblical Values to be upheld!

Lets go tit for tat then, show me how the Republican party has lived out ANY of those Matthew 25 values in the past 50 years.

All one needs to do is compare 2020 party platforms:

Dems:
TABLE OF CONTENTS DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL CONVENTION LAND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT 4 PREAMBLE 5 PROTECTING AMERICANS AND RECOVERING FROM THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC 8 BUILDING A STRONGER, FAIRER ECONOMY 13 Protecting Workers and Families and Creating Millions of Jobs Across America 14 Raising Wages and Promoting Workers’ Rights 14 Enacting Robust Work-Family Policies 16 Investing in the Engines of Job Creation 16 Building A Fair System of International Trade for Our Workers 20 Putting Homeownership in Reach and Guaranteeing Safe Housing for Every American 20 Leveling the Economic Playing Field 22 Reforming the Tax Code to Benefit Working Families 22 Curbing Wall Street Abuses 23 Ending Poverty 23 Protecting Consumer Rights and Privacy 25 Tackling Runaway Corporate Concentration 25 Guaranteeing a Secure and Dignified Retirement 25 ACHIEVING UNIVERSAL, AFFORDABLE, QUALITY HEALTH CARE 26 Securing Universal Health Care Through a Public Option 28 Bringing Down Drug Prices and Taking on the Pharmaceutical Industry 29 Reducing Health Care Costs and Improving Health Care Quality 29 Expanding Access to Mental Health and Substance Use Treatment 30 Expanding Long-Term Care Services and Supports 30 Eliminate Racial, Gender, and Geographic Health Inequities 31 Protecting Native American Health 32 Securing Reproductive Health, Rights, and Justice 32 Protecting and Promoting Maternal Health 33 Strengthening and Supporting the Health Care Workforce 33 Investing in Health Science and Research 34 PROTECTING COMMUNITIES AND BUILDING TRUST BY REFORMING OUR CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM 35 HEALING THE SOUL OF AMERICA 39 Protecting Americans’ Civil Rights 39

Repubs:



Oops... That's right, I almost forgot. Republicans have no 2020 platform.

Same old same old, cut taxes for the rich, gut funding for essential services for the poor and working class.

They will INDEED be on Jesus' Left, Dumbstruck, crying out "When Lord"? "when did we not do these things for you"?

Thankfully, There is still time for you to unhitch your wagon from that Dragon.

 

[Online.Gamer.79]

What does this mean? Does this mean we are going to be a socialist country and or a communist country?

And I thought churches supported Donald Trump? I am shocked that there were churches that were for Biden.

Update: Or does love actually win like some claim?

Cities erupt in cheers, church bells ring after news of Biden's projected win

Okay first look at the definition of communism and socialism and what they really are, second every form of government has some degree of socialism. Medicare, foodstams, soc/sec and disability are all forms of socialism. Those two words are used to inspire fear...the truth is a communist society would only work if every was willing to work together for the common goal of everyone...basically not be selfish and greedy. That does not work because to many people are greedy and selfish. And on socialism like I said every single government has bit of it. It is actually needed in moderation. People here those two words and get all scared without truly understanding what they are. China might claim to be a communist state same as Russia used to be but in truth they were or are dictatorships

 

[Online.Gamer.79]

I don't care what party gets in, Government determined healthcare is nonecare.

Yeah that is why the most successful countries in the world which the united states is not in top 10 are exactly that. There education, medical care, jobs, are superior to ours...there people live longer.

 

[tulc]

(snip) Jesus was not commanding a political party to feed the hungry.

Why not? When He created the Laws in the Old Testament He clearly made it clear people were supposed to feed the hungry. It wasn't a request, it wasn't "if you feel called" it was actual Laws given by God. Been here:
Overlooked Mosaic Laws
this page is filled with Scriptures that are seldom (is ever) taught about.

He did the same in the New Testament as well. In fact, He tied Salvation to our helping the people around us. In fact, He made it clear if you don't help help others you're in danger of hell fire. Matthew 25: 41-46

41-43 “Then he will turn to the ‘goats,’ the ones on his left, and say, ‘Get out, worthless goats! You’re good for nothing but the fires of hell. And why? Because—

I was hungry and you gave me no meal,
I was thirsty and you gave me no drink,
I was homeless and you gave me no bed,
I was shivering and you gave me no clothes,
Sick and in prison, and you never visited.’

44 “Then those ‘goats’ are going to say, ‘Master, what are you talking about? When did we ever see you hungry or thirsty or homeless or shivering or sick or in prison and didn’t help?’

45 “He will answer them, ‘I’m telling the solemn truth: Whenever you failed to do one of these things to someone who was being overlooked or ignored, that was me—you failed to do it to me.’

46 “Then those ‘goats’ will be herded to their eternal doom, but the ‘sheep’ to their eternal reward.”

Even if your saintly liberals feed the hungry they will lose all reward for demonic motives.

I might draw your attention to earlier in Matthew 25

31-33 “When he finally arrives, blazing in beauty and all his angels with him, the Son of Man will take his place on his glorious throne. Then all the nations will be arranged before him and he will sort the people out, much as a shepherd sorts out sheep and goats, putting sheep to his right and goats to his left.

34-36 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Enter, you who are blessed by my Father! Take what’s coming to you in this kingdom. It’s been ready for you since the world’s foundation. And here’s why:

I was hungry and you fed me,
I was thirsty and you gave me a drink,
I was homeless and you gave me a room,
I was shivering and you gave me clothes,
I was sick and you stopped to visit,
I was in prison and you came to me.’

37-40 “Then those ‘sheep’ are going to say, ‘Master, what are you talking about? When did we ever see you hungry and feed you, thirsty and give you a drink? And when did we ever see you sick or in prison and come to you?’ Then the King will say, ‘I’m telling the solemn truth: Whenever you did one of these things to someone overlooked or ignored, that was me—you did it to me.’

looking over what Jesus said in the above, could you point out where He said: "But only if you did it because you had the right motives." Or was the point "You saw the needs and you helped."?
tulc(is just curious)

 

[Online.Gamer.79]

Why not? When He created the Laws in the Old Testament He clearly made it clear people were supposed to feed the hungry. It wasn't a request, it wasn't "if you feel called" it was actual Laws given by God. Been here:
Overlooked Mosaic Laws
this page is filled with Scriptures that are seldom (is ever) taught about.

He did the same in the New Testament as well. In fact, He tied Salvation to our helping the people around us. In fact, He made it clear if you don't help help others you're in danger of hell fire. Matthew 25: 41-46



I might draw your attention to earlier in Matthew 25

looking over what Jesus said in the above, could you point out where He said: "But only if you did it because you had the right motives." Or was the point "You saw the needs and you helped."?
tulc(is just curious)

Thank you

 

[Postvieww]

Why not? When He created the Laws in the Old Testament He clearly made it clear people were supposed to feed the hungry. It wasn't a request, it wasn't "if you feel called" it was actual Laws given by God. Been here:
Overlooked Mosaic Laws
this page is filled with Scriptures that are seldom (is ever) taught about.

He did the same in the New Testament as well. In fact, He tied Salvation to our helping the people around us. In fact, He made it clear if you don't help help others you're in danger of hell fire. Matthew 25: 41-46



I might draw your attention to earlier in Matthew 25

looking over what Jesus said in the above, could you point out where He said: "But only if you did it because you had the right motives." Or was the point "You saw the needs and you helped."?
tulc(is just curious)

It is a fools errand to try to make the Democratic or Republican Party the fulfilling of Gods command to feed the hungry. That command is to individuals that means you and me not a group of hypocritical politicians. They will be judged on an individual basis not as a party. If you think supporting a bunch liberal devils whose entire goal is rule you and me while enriching themselves and promoting the murder of babies, will fulfill your obligation to the poor you are so messed up in your scriptural thinking it will take a visitation from God to set you straight.
Matthew 6

1Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.

2 Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

3 But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth:

4 That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly. Show me a list of politicians who do not like to be seen for what they claim is help to the people?????

 

[Postvieww]

Proverbs 17:15 He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they both are abomination to the Lord.

 

[tulc]

It is a fools errand to try to make the Democratic or Republican Party the fulfilling of Gods command to feed the hungry. (snip)

So...if neither Party is to be considered "Gods Party" shouldn't people stop pretending they are? And if America isn't "a Christian Nation" and is instead simply just one more nation among many, than shouldn't we be free to decide if we'd like to spend our taxes on what we want to spend them on? Feed an over bloated military industrial complex or feed actual Americans? Sorry, but if that's the decision than that's not even a contest as far as I'm concerned.
tulc(is having some excellent coffee right now)

 

[tulc]

Proverbs 17:15 He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they both are abomination to the Lord.

...pretty sure you're not seeing the irony of this post.
tulc(is just sayn')

 

[parousia70]

It is a fools errand to try to make [individuals who make up] the Democratic or Republican Party the fulfilling of Gods command to feed the hungry. That command is to individuals that means you and me not a group of hypocritical politicians. They will be judged on an individual basis not as a party.

Pretty sure Jesus command in Matthew 25 is DIRECTLY applicable to Hypocrites. Hypocritical politicians are not exempt, as you would appear to suggest.

It is a fools errand to think Jesus’ commands in Matthew 25 contain the loophole “unless your personally refusing to help the needy was carried out by you as part of your political parties’ actions and platform, then you as individuals are exempt from this admonition”

Republicans could end legal abortion tomorrow, but they won’t. Ending legal abortion is political suicide for Republicans, and they know it. They absolutely must keep legal abortion intact as the rallying cry for their donors, Which is why in 50 years they have done nothing to end it.

If you think supporting a bunch conservative devils whose entire goal is rule you and me while enriching themselves as they lie about their opposition to the murder of babies (so you will keep sending them your money and continue voting against your own interests and the interests of your needy neighbor), will somehow fulfill your obligation to protect the unborn, you are so messed up in your scriptural thinking it will take a visitation from God to set you straight.

 

[Postvieww]

Pretty sure Jesus command in Matthew 25 is DIRECTLY applicable to Hypocrites. Hypocritical politicians are not exempt, as you would appear to suggest.

Yep, I believe I said they would be judged individually and motive is part of that judgment.