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Jews 4 Jesus criticize Vatican

Discussion in 'Messianic Judaism' started by Yeshua HaDerekh, Jan 3, 2016.

  1. Yeshua HaDerekh

    Yeshua HaDerekh Men dream of truth, find it then cant live with it

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  3. visionary

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    Pandering isn't something a believer should want.
     
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  5. AndyLondon

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    To me, the Vatican stance of saying that Christians should not evangelise Jewish people is like rewriting Matthew 28:19-20 so that the original believers in Yeshua / Jesus (who were mostly Jewish) should not evangelise their fellow Jews.

    When Jews are the only people excluded from something, that is usually termed "anti-Semitism".

    Personally I am glad that some non-Jewish friends prayed for me and that I found Yeshua (or rather He found me) almost 40 years ago. Please go on evangelising other Jewish people but do it sensitively as some of us have too often been hurt by insensitive Christians.
     
  6. 613jono

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  7. 613jono

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    Agreed. One question:define evangelize.

    Been attending a conservative shul for years, I dont "push" my belief in Yeshua as Moshiach, but dont shy away from discussion, when asked.
     
  8. AndyLondon

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    Evangelise - share my faith in Yeshua / Jesus with those around me who ask me. For example, if someone asked whether I had a good week-end, I might say yes and tell them about our church service. Over the years that I was working (I have retired now) I must have shared my faith with most of my work colleagues.

    However, actions usually speak louder than words and, if folk see you saying one thing but doing another, your witness isn't much use. That's why it's as important to live as a follower of Yeshua / Jesus and not just talk about being one. It was James that spoke about this in James 2:14-26.
     
  9. Yeshua HaDerekh

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    I am impressed! How and why are you allowed to stay?
     
  10. Gxg (G²)

    Gxg (G²) Pilgrim/Monastic on the Road to God (Psalm 84:1-7) CF Ambassadors Supporter

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    Complicated...
     
  11. 613jono

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    Open minded rabbi, and integrity up front. Had several discussions and it is understood that we do not identify with christianity, and it didnt hurt that we were practicing Judaism, and familiar with halacha going in.
     
  12. 613jono

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    ...also on a path to conversion.
     
  13. Yeshua HaDerekh

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    Oh, I see. Is there a reason you are converting? Will you still have faith in Yeshua or will you deny Him at conversion since Rabbinic Judaism does not presently accept Yeshua as Moshiakh??
     
  14. 613jono

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    Nope. Not eligible for conversion- unwilling to deny what we know is true. All the same-with the exception of a few, we're still welcome in the community as non members.

    Was seeking conversion because of our passion for Judaism, and disguist with christian theology, and interpretation.
     
  15. visionary

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  16. 613jono

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    This is troubling, yet not suprising.
     
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  18. 613jono

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    Meir Kahane was right!
     
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  20. 613jono

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    Meir Kahana proposed non jews in the land had three options 1) dwell as resident aliens with full rights-except national ones. 2) leave, and be compensated for land and property. 3)be evicted forcibly.
    (As codified by Jewish law)

    Big fan.
     
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