Only for those who want to push a false doctrine and the casual reader who isn't paying attention. You need to understand the pronouns refer to.Jesus is "LORD of the Sabbath" Mark 2:28 that is in the actual Bible but "Jesus is our Sabbath" is not.
You cannot "remember Jesus to keep Jesus Holy" - Jesus is already Holy.
Col 1 "all things were made BY Him and FOR Him" that is right mankind WAS MADE FOR Jesus and BY Jesus.
By contrast to the Sabbath
The "Sabbath was made FOR mankind and not mankind for the Sabbath" excludes the "Jesus is our Sabbath" speculation that some would try to add to the text that makes it -- "Jesus made for mankind not mankind FOR Jesus"
On the contrary - all things were made by Christ and for Christ -- this is irrefutable as both Colossians 1:16 and John 1:1-6 make clear.
So you want to argue agency to discredit the clear statements of Rev 4 and 5. What is true is your refusal to believe the Scripture.Rev 4 and 5 do not argue against Christ (God the Son) as the creator - in fact all three as we see in Genesis member of the Godhead were involved.
It's you who claims the Scripture isn't consistent with and disagrees with itself. What you're is proving you don't believe the Scripture.Much better than going around calling various Bible writers "liars".
Your error has been exposed.When you say Jesus "had a part" in Creation
Col 1 "all things were made BY Him and FOR Him" that is right mankind WAS MADE FOR Jesus and BY Jesus.
That means the mankind was made FOR Jesus -- not Jesus made FOR the mankind.
By contrast the Sabbath was made FOR mankind.
You have the pronouns misaligned. This allows you to promote false doctrine and divide the Scripture against itself making it an unreliable work of fiction.When you say "Jesus had a part" in creation.
John 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being.
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9 There was the true Light which, coming into the world, enlightens every man. 10 He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him.
Thank you for making my point with verse 1 about Who sits on the throne in Rev 5 and gives the book to the Lamb - Jesus.You say that like I wrote the book of Hebrews.
Heb 8
Now the main point in what has been said is this: we have such a high priest, who has taken His seat at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens, 2 a minister in the sanctuary and in the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, not man...
4 Now if He (Jesus) were on earth, He (Jesus) would not be a priest at all, since there are those who offer the gifts according to the Law; 5 who serve a copy and shadow of the heavenly things, just as Moses was warned by God when he was about to erect the tabernacle; for, “See,” He (Jesus) says, “that you make all things according to the pattern which was shown you on the mountain.” 6 But now He (Jesus) has obtained a more excellent ministry, by as much as He (Jesus) is also the mediator of a better covenant, which has been enacted on better promises.
7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, there would have been no occasion sought for a second. 8 For finding fault with them, He (Jesus) says,
Your inserted bold makes Jeremiah a false prophet.“Behold, days are coming, says the LORD (YHWH) -- JESUS,
When I (Jesus) will effect a new covenant
With the house of Israel and with the house of Judah;
9 Not like the covenant which I (Jesus) made with their fathers
On the day when I (Jesus) took them by the hand
To lead them out of the land of Egypt;
For they did not continue in My covenant,
And I did not care for them, says the Lord.
10 “For this is the covenant that I (Jesus) will make with the house of Israel
After those days, says the Lord:
I (Jesus) will put My laws into their minds,
And I will write them on their hearts.
And I will be their God,
And they shall be My people
You assert here exactly what I said you believe and promote through the misuse of both Col 1 and JN 1.It was Jesus speaking at Sinai according to that text.
So your claim is those who worship on Sunday don't set aside time strictly for God.I don't think the Sabbath draws God's strict judgement. As Jesus said "it was made for man." But think about its purpose. When I try to make a Sabbath holy it does make me feel good and bring me closer to God. That's the value of it. So what's important overall is that you're devoting enough time and energy to God. But it's easy to put something off when you don't have a designated day.
No I didn't mean that. But like a person could go to church on Sunday and spend the rest of the day doing stupid stuff.So your claim is those who worship on Sunday don't set aside time strictly for God.
I understand the misconception of what is usually taught by this passage. What you're trying to imply contradicts Rev 4 and 5
God gets sole credit for and as Creator in Revelation. I don't deny Jesus had a part in creation.
The real point of my Rev 4 and 5 is an anti-thesis to your idea Jesus is the One Who issued the famous 10.
Only for those who want to push a false doctrine
So are you upset because people don't transfer the regulations of the sabbath to Sunday? Why would that bother you?No I didn't mean that. But like a person could go to church on Sunday and spend the rest of the day doing stupid stuff.
I'm not upset like I said I don't think it's a big sin. There are hundreds of sins listed in the Bible, we naturally have to focus on the heavier ones if we can have any hope to improve as people. I was talking about seeing the value in this law. It's about connecting more with God. The Sabbath can inspire this.So are you upset because people don't transfer the regulations of the sabbath to Sunday? Why would that bother you?
Then the reality of speaking against others for not keeping the sabbath has no purpose.I'm not upset like I said I don't think it's a big sin. There are hundreds of sins listed in the Bible, we naturally have to focus on the heavier ones if we can have any hope to improve as people. I was talking about seeing the value in this law. It's about connecting more with God. The Sabbath can inspire this.
I don't think the Sabbath draws God's strict judgement. .
No I didn't mean that. But like a person could go to church on Sunday and spend the rest of the day doing stupid stuff.
So are you upset because people don't transfer the regulations of the sabbath to Sunday? Why would that bother you?
Who did this? Are these passages in error -Whereas some,erroneously ascribe the law to Israel only,the scriptures and logical reasoning deny this.
Who did this? Are these passages in error -
Deut 4:13 And he declared unto you his covenant, which he commanded you to perform, even ten commandments; and he wrote them upon two tables of stone.
Deut 5:1 And Moses called all Israel, and said unto them, Hear, O Israel, the statutes and judgments which I speak in your ears this day, that ye may learn them, and keep, and do them.
2 The Lord our God made a covenant with us in Horeb.
3 The Lord made not this covenant with our fathers, but with us, even us, who are all of us here alive this day.
Who did this? Are these passages in error -
Deut 4:13 And he declared unto you his covenant, which he commanded you to perform, even ten commandments; and he wrote them upon two tables of stone.
Deut 5:1 And Moses called all Israel, and said unto them, Hear, O Israel, the statutes and judgments which I speak in your ears this day, that ye may learn them, and keep, and do them.
2 The Lord our God made a covenant with us in Horeb.
3 The Lord made not this covenant with our fathers, but with us, even us, who are all of us here alive this day.
Are Christians really required to observe the 7th day or else they take the mark of the beast as some SDA claim?
How do you address these verses then?
Colossians 1
16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of a feast day or a new moon or a sabbath day: 17 which are a shadow of the things to come; but the body is Christ's.
Galatians 4
8 Howbeit at that time, not knowing God, ye were in bondage to them that by nature are no gods: 9 but now that ye have come to know God, or rather to be known by God, how turn ye back again to the weak and beggarly rudiments, whereunto ye desire to be in bondage over again?
10 Ye observe days, and months, and seasons, and years.
11 I am afraid of you, lest by any means I have bestowed labor upon you in vain.
So would these prove that Sabbath can be anyday? Also sabbath is a day of rest, you cannot work or go buying things, start a fire. Why would we be under the law again.
Is it a sin not to observe the 7th day Sabbath? It just doesn't seem so from the Bible. Old Covenant is different from New, if you pick and choose from old covenant why not follow the whole law then?
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