Jesus' commandments - opposed to His Fathers Commandments? - Really?

[bugkiller]

Romans 5:13

I know the passage well. What is your point?

bugkiller

 

[bugkiller]

Do not bring your servant into judgement, for NO ONE living I righteous before you
Psalms143:2

I brought no one into judgment. I stated plain facts found in the Scripture.

bugkiller

 

[bugkiller]

Therefore no one will be declared righteous in his sight by observing the law, rather THROUGH the law we become conscious of sin( present tense)
Rom3:20

Are you ever conscious of sin?

No because I am a new man (creature) in Jesus Christ with a new nature. I do not practice sin. When I sin the Holy Spirit convicts me. The law has nothing to do with me as a Christian.

bugkiller

 

[bugkiller]

We are not under the law( of righteousness. And yes, I know why the Holy Spirit was given.
But the fact remains.
If you commit any specific sin and you are conscious you sin because of That specific sin that law, MUST be placed within you.
For it is a spiritual cast iron fact.
THROUGH the law you become conscious of sin.

So I repeat. If you coveted, would you be conscious you committed sin because you coveted, or would you only be conscious you sinned because you failed to love as you should?

We all know the answer to That question don't we. No more needs to be said

No I do not believe I ever became conscious of sin because of the law. I learned about coveting when my parents did not attend church upon taking something that was not mine and being punished for it.

bugkiller

 

[bugkiller]

And BTW I agree with your scriptures from Galatians or anywhere else. The christian is not under law, but That does not mean all the law got abolished

It is all the law or none of the law according to my Bible.

bugkiller

 

[bugkiller]

I think you made a mistake. The greatest command is found in the TC. It is the first.

Not according to Jesus.

bugkiller

 

[BobRyan]

Only those who don't understand that the new covenant started when Christ died. Before that the old covenant was still in effect.

Until you read the Bible and see that the words of Christ AFTER the cross - in Matt 28 -- his command to his people was to tell them to teach everyone what HE had taught them instead of to ignore everything he said. Hence when Matthew write that Gospel - he tells us what Jesus taught - just as the Matthew 28 command from Christ directs him to do.

This is incredibly obvious -- not just to those who fully accept the Bible Sabbath - but even to pro-sunday scholars.

 

[BobRyan]

It is all the law or none of the law according to my Bible.

bugkiller

So then you are in favor of taking God's name in vain or ... against it... which?

 

[stuart lawrence]

You do not understand the purposes of the law.



bugkiller

I obviously wouldn't claim to know as much as you know

 

[stuart lawrence]

I brought no one into judgment. I stated plain facts found in the Scripture.

bugkiller

Rotfl

 

[stuart lawrence]

Not according to Jesus.

bugkiller

Really, so according to Jesus the first of the TC is not the greatest commandment?

Teacher which is the greatest commandment in the law?
Jesus replied:
Love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the first and greatest commandment
Matt22:36&37

 

[stuart lawrence]

. When I sin the Holy Spirit convicts me. The law has nothing to do with me as a Christian.

bugkiller

THROUGH the law we become conscious of sin( present tense)
Rom3:20

 

[stuart lawrence]

No I do not believe I ever became conscious of sin because of the law.

bugkiller

Amazing,

THROUGH the law we become conscious of sin( present tense)
Rom3:20

 

[stuart lawrence]

It is all the law or none of the law according to my Bible.

bugkiller

Read your bible properly.
It is observing all of the law faultlessly to be justified under it

 

[Bob S]

I think you made a mistake. The greatest command is found in the TC. It is the first.

So stuart, I write a nice post explaining my position really trying to tell you where I stand and your answer to me is the above response? OY!

Just to make it clear, and I don't know if that is possible, here is what I wrote about the 10cs: As I have said over and over there is not even the command in the 10Cs to love period. The greatest command is not found in the 10 commandments. They were temporary commands given only to Israel for a purpose we are not fully knowledgeable of knowing. Maybe that was all they could handle at the time.

I was not comparing the greatest commandment in the 10. If you would only take the time to study what we have posted you wouldn't end up with egg on your face. As it is I take your posts with a grain of salt.

 

[stuart lawrence]

Just to make it clear, and I don't know if that is possible, here is what I wrote about the 10cs: As I have said over and over there is not even the command in the 10Cs to love period. The greatest command is not found in the 10 commandments. They were temporary commands given only to Israel for a purpose we are not fully knowledgeable of knowing. Maybe that was all they could handle at the time.

I was not comparing the greatest commandment in the 10. If you would only take the time to study what we have posted you wouldn't end up with egg on your face. As it is I take your posts with a grain of salt.

Well I'm leaving this thread now, I see no point in continuing.
But the greatest commandment is found In the TC. It is the first

 

[Bob S]

So then you are in favor of taking God's name in vain or ... against it... which?

I am sure Abraham knew not to take God's name in vain 490 years before the law was given at Sinai. Morality has and will be forever. We do not need the now defunct 10 commandments to tell us what sin is. If that were so then we would not know that love is the greatest commandment because it was not mentioned in the 10 so we would be treating our fellow man with disgust and all the other adjectives that describe sin except for the 5 that are mentioned. 2Cor 3:7-11 Ellen had her head in the sand and yet you parrot her. What can I say?

 

[Bob S]

Well I'm leaving this thread now, I see no point in continuing.
But the greatest commandment is found In the TC. It is the first

Well, I guess you got the last word, but do you know you have just refuted Jesus?

You have refused to apologize or recognize when you have erred, so I guess, as you wrote, there is no real point of staying around. I am here to help those who read our posts recognize error and read for their selves the real truth from scripture. I choose to stay around mostly for those who are seeking the truth.

I wish you well and may God bless you in your studies of the simple plan of salvation if you choose to study it. In Christ, Bob

 

[BobRyan]

I am sure Abraham knew not to take God's name in vain

Genesis 26:5 "Abraham kept My Laws and Commandments"

Just as Noah knew about clean and unclean animal distinctions Genesis 7

So "yeah" -- Abraham knew it was sin to take God's name in vain -- even though you don't find that commandment "quoted" in Genesis. Still Moses' readers had access to it - when reading the story of Abraham.

 

[BobRyan]

We do not need the now defunct 10 commandments to tell us what sin is.

By contrast the actual Bible tells us the opposite is true - in Romans 3:19-20 and in Romans 7.

Hence the saints "KEEP the Commandments of God AND their faith in Jesus" Revelation 14:12

I prefer the Bible on this one.