Jesus' commandments - opposed to His Fathers Commandments? - Really?

[BobRyan]

Hello Stuart.

We uphold the law but we are not under the law.

Galatians 5:18
But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the Law.

Uphold as in "obey" Romans 6, Romans 8:4-9
Uphold as in "it is still a sin to take God's name in vain... even for Christians"

 

[bugkiller]

Until you read the Bible and see that the words of Christ AFTER the cross - in Matt 28 -- his command to his people was to tell them to teach everyone what HE had taught them instead of to ignore everything he said. Hence when Matthew write that Gospel - he tells us what Jesus taught - just as the Matthew 28 command from Christ directs him to do.

This is incredibly obvious -- not just to those who fully accept the Bible Sabbath - but even to pro-sunday scholars.

Jesus neither taught or required keeping of the law issued at Sinai.

bugkiller

 

[bugkiller]

Uphold as in "obey" Romans 6, Romans 8:4-9
Uphold as in "it is still a sin to take God's name in vain... even for Christians"

None of your references indicate keeping the law.

bugkiller

 

[klutedavid]

Uphold as in "obey" Romans 6, Romans 8:4-9
Uphold as in "it is still a sin to take God's name in vain... even for Christians"

Hello Bob.

Your supposed to be dead to sin, Bob.

Romans 6
6 knowing this, that our old self was crucified with Him, in order that our body of sin
might be done away with, so that we would no longer be slaves to sin; 7 for he who
has died is freed from sin.

Anyone who has crucified themselves with Christ cannot sin, it is impossible.

 

[BobRyan]

Hello Bob.

Your supposed to be dead to sin, Bob.

Romans 6
6 knowing this, that our old self was crucified with Him, in order that our body of sin
might be done away with, so that we would no longer be slaves to sin; 7 for he who
has died is freed from sin.

Anyone who has crucified themselves with Christ cannot sin, it is impossible.

Romans 6 is a great text for that...

It is not a great text for "Go ahead - take God's name in vain now that you are a Christian.. IT is just what is expected of you".. As I am sure we both agree.

 

[BobRyan]

None of your references indicate keeping the law.

bugkiller

Until you actually read them.. for example I reference Romans 8:4-9.

Were we all just "not supposed to notice"??

The point remains.

 

[stuart lawrence]

Well, I guess you got the last word, but do you know you have just refuted Jesus?

You have refused to apologize or recognize when you have erred, so I guess, as you wrote, there is no real point of staying around. I am here to help those who read our posts recognize error and read for their selves the real truth from scripture. I choose to stay around mostly for those who are seeking the truth.

I wish you well and may God bless you in your studies of the simple plan of salvation if you choose to study it. In Christ, Bob

You were given overwhelming evidence. However, as you say, you hang around here to show others truth who are seeking it.
Teachers never accept they could be wrong.
For the life of me, I cant see what's so objectionable to God placing in your heart the desire not to steal, kill, commit adultery, murder, bear false witness or covet.
However, for some it obviously is objectionable

 

[stuart lawrence]

I actually myself once believed the TC had all been abolished. But, when shown my error, accepted it, in humility!

I mean, if the law got abolished, you wouldn't need a saviour from sin would you!
God could just accept you into covenant if you repent, and that's it!



I was raised in strict legalism you see, terrifyingly strict legalism, and when you then see the light, it is easy to go overboard in the other direction

 

[stuart lawrence]

Tis a strange thing Bob. We both understand the TC did not all get abolished, and yet you must believe I am in wilfull rebellion against God, and i believe you follow the letter, rather than the Spirit.

We started in the same place, then drifted far apart!

 

[Bob S]

Tis a strange thing Bob. We both understand the TC did not all get abolished,

Morality has and never will be abolished. There is much more to morality than the few that are found in the 10 commandments

and yet you must believe I am in wilfull rebellion against God, and i believe you follow the letter, rather than the Spirit.

I am sorry you gleaned that from my posts. I have never intended to judge another person and if you believe I somehow came across as judging you then I am very sorry, it was not my intent. As to me following the letter, that was never my intent to portray. In fact that is just the opposite of my belief. We are not even under the law so how could I be following the letter of the law.

We started in the same place, then drifted far apart!

I think we are within talking distance, so we are not that far apart.


In thinking about all of our posts and reading this last post I don't think you have understood what I have gleaned from the Holy Writ. Let me once again try.

The law (Torah) was given to one nation, Israel, It was a covenant between God and one nation and it was a conditional covenant. If you will keep my laws and statues I will give you the land of Canaan, the promised land, for ever. Israel broke the covenant many times and each time God forgave them and reestablished the covenant. All this was in the plan of salvation and was established before the foundation of the Earth. The following Chapters, when read in full context, kinda tells us the plan.
Hebrews 4:3

For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
Hebrews 6:1
Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,
Hebrews 9:26

For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.

Hebrews 11:10
For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God.

As a nation as long as Israel observed Torah they prospered in the land of milk and honey. When they turned their backs on God they lost Canaan and, of course, the covenant. This is where Jesus steps in and gives mankind a new and better covenant one that if we enter in will give us a heavenly Canaan and it will be forever. Our covenant ratified at Calvary with Jesus own blood and His death is unconditional. Our eternal home will last forever

Now I want to try to explain why we are not bound to the 10 commandments and the remainder of the book of the law. Keeping Torah could only give the Israelites earthly Canaan. The new covenant is a spiritual covenant that gives us an eternal Canaan in Heaven. It is not a covenant of our own doing it is a covenant of what Jesus has done for us. Israel had to remain in their covenant relationship by keeping the Law. Christians remain in the new covenant by loving God and our fellow man. Jesus kept the law for mankind and offers His grace to all of us who accept it.

How can man love God? Well Jesus said that what we do for the least of mankind we do to Him. When we love others we show our love for Jesus. In return Jesus gave us a very special gift, the Holy Spirit which abides in each one of us as our guide. This fact is very important for Christians to understand. Israel's guide was Torah and Torah contained the 10 commandments, nine of them dealing with how we treat God and our fellow man (morality), one with observance of a day (ritualism). Our guide, being the Holy Spirit, supersedes Israel's guide. Israel's guide said nothing about loving God or our fellow man. Their guide was only the tip of the iceberg as how we are to treat our fellow man. Our guide is all inclusive. Our guide gives us no thoughts about all the rituals given only to Israel. Our guide is all about love. If we obey our guide we will not covet, commit adultery, murder, steal, we will honor our parents, not take the name of the Lord in vain nor have any other Gods or idols. We will not be arrogant, be indecent, be violent, be slanderous, be egotistic nor will we abort or commit fraud. We will have respect, be responsible and be compassionate to name a few things that are not part of the defunct 10 commandments. Yes, defunct, they went down with Israel's non compliance of the covenant. We either we live in the New Testament requirement of love or we try to live in past history, the Old Testament requirements, or parts thereof and come up fruitless. Only Jesus will save mankind.

I pray this will help you at least where I, as a Christian who wants to serve the Lord, stand.

 

[stuart lawrence]

Morality has and never will be abolished. There is much more to morality than the few that are found in the 10 commandments

I am sorry you gleaned that from my posts. I have never intended to judge another person and if you believe I somehow came across as judging you then I am very sorry, it was not my intent. As to me following the letter, that was never my intent to portray. In fact that is just the opposite of my belief. We are not even under the law so how could I be following the letter of the law.


I think we are within talking distance, so we are not that far apart.


In thinking about all of our posts and reading this last post I don't think you have understood what I have gleaned from the Holy Writ. Let me once again try.

The law (Torah) was given to one nation, Israel, It was a covenant between God and one nation and it was a conditional covenant. If you will keep my laws and statues I will give you the land of Canaan, the promised land, for ever. Israel broke the covenant many times and each time God forgave them and reestablished the covenant. All this was in the plan of salvation and was established before the foundation of the Earth. The following Chapters, when read in full context, kinda tells us the plan.
Hebrews 4:3

For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
Hebrews 6:1
Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,
Hebrews 9:26

For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.

Hebrews 11:10
For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God.

As a nation as long as Israel observed Torah they prospered in the land of milk and honey. When they turned their backs on God they lost Canaan and, of course, the covenant. This is where Jesus steps in and gives mankind a new and better covenant one that if we enter in will give us a heavenly Canaan and it will be forever. Our covenant ratified at Calvary with Jesus own blood and His death is unconditional. Our eternal home will last forever

Now I want to try to explain why we are not bound to the 10 commandments and the remainder of the book of the law. Keeping Torah could only give the Israelites earthly Canaan. The new covenant is a spiritual covenant that gives us an eternal Canaan in Heaven. It is not a covenant of our own doing it is a covenant of what Jesus has done for us. Israel had to remain in their covenant relationship by keeping the Law. Christians remain in the new covenant by loving God and our fellow man. Jesus kept the law for mankind and offers His grace to all of us who accept it.

How can man love God? Well Jesus said that what we do for the least of mankind we do to Him. When we love others we show our love for Jesus. In return Jesus gave us a very special gift, the Holy Spirit which abides in each one of us as our guide. This fact is very important for Christians to understand. Israel's guide was Torah and Torah contained the 10 commandments, nine of them dealing with how we treat God and our fellow man (morality), one with observance of a day (ritualism). Our guide, being the Holy Spirit, supersedes Israel's guide. Israel's guide said nothing about loving God or our fellow man. Their guide was only the tip of the iceberg as how we are to treat our fellow man. Our guide is all inclusive. Our guide gives us no thoughts about all the rituals given only to Israel. Our guide is all about love. If we obey our guide we will not covet, commit adultery, murder, steal, we will honor our parents, not take the name of the Lord in vain nor have any other Gods or idols. We will not be arrogant, be indecent, be violent, be slanderous, be egotistic nor will we abort or commit fraud. We will have respect, be responsible and be compassionate to name a few things that are not part of the defunct 10 commandments. Yes, defunct, they went down with Israel's non compliance of the covenant. We either we live in the New Testament requirement of love or we try to live in past history, the Old Testament requirements, or parts thereof and come up fruitless. Only Jesus will save mankind.

I pray this will help you at least where I, as a Christian who wants to serve the Lord, stand.

You have responded to a post that was written to the other Bob.
My apologies for not putting his full name.
There was no need to write all that to me, j do understand about covenants.
However, to say all law is not abolished, but those horrible laws such as don't murder, steal, commit adultery, covet have been abolished, they are not placed on your heart, is in my view, ludicrous.

 

[BobRyan]

Morality has and never will be abolished.

These groups all affirm the Ten Commandments included in the LAW of God that defines sin-vs-righteousness called the "moral law".

So then "do not take God's name in vain" - still... even after the cross.

And of course the "Unit" where we find "Honor your parents" still affirmed in the NT ... Ephesians 6:2 having the 5th commandment as the "first commandment with a promise".

Affirmed by Christ as the "Word of God" and the "Commandment of God" Mark 7:6-13

Bible details so incredibly obvious that these groups on both sides of the issue of the God-ordained weekly day-of-worship - agree that the moral Law of God - includes the Ten Commandments...

The Baptist Confession of Faith,
the Westminster Confession of Faith ,
D.L. Moody,
R.C Sproul,
Matthew Henry,
Thomas Watson
Eastern Orthodox Catechism
The Catholic Catechism.

And of course 7th day groups

Seventh-day Baptists
Seventh-day Adventists
(and 100's of others)

 

[stuart lawrence]

Morality has and never will be abolished. There is much more to morality than the few that are found in the 10 commandments

I am sorry you gleaned that from my posts. I have never intended to judge another person and if you believe I somehow came across as judging you then I am very sorry, it was not my intent. As to me following the letter, that was never my intent to portray. In fact that is just the opposite of my belief. We are not even under the law so how could I be following the letter of the law.


I think we are within talking distance, so we are not that far apart.


In thinking about all of our posts and reading this last post I don't think you have understood what I have gleaned from the Holy Writ. Let me once again try.

The law (Torah) was given to one nation, Israel, It was a covenant between God and one nation and it was a conditional covenant. If you will keep my laws and statues I will give you the land of Canaan, the promised land, for ever. Israel broke the covenant many times and each time God forgave them and reestablished the covenant. All this was in the plan of salvation and was established before the foundation of the Earth. The following Chapters, when read in full context, kinda tells us the plan.
Hebrews 4:3

For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
Hebrews 6:1
Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,
Hebrews 9:26

For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.

Hebrews 11:10
For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God.

As a nation as long as Israel observed Torah they prospered in the land of milk and honey. When they turned their backs on God they lost Canaan and, of course, the covenant. This is where Jesus steps in and gives mankind a new and better covenant one that if we enter in will give us a heavenly Canaan and it will be forever. Our covenant ratified at Calvary with Jesus own blood and His death is unconditional. Our eternal home will last forever

Now I want to try to explain why we are not bound to the 10 commandments and the remainder of the book of the law. Keeping Torah could only give the Israelites earthly Canaan. The new covenant is a spiritual covenant that gives us an eternal Canaan in Heaven. It is not a covenant of our own doing it is a covenant of what Jesus has done for us. Israel had to remain in their covenant relationship by keeping the Law. Christians remain in the new covenant by loving God and our fellow man. Jesus kept the law for mankind and offers His grace to all of us who accept it.

How can man love God? Well Jesus said that what we do for the least of mankind we do to Him. When we love others we show our love for Jesus. In return Jesus gave us a very special gift, the Holy Spirit which abides in each one of us as our guide. This fact is very important for Christians to understand. Israel's guide was Torah and Torah contained the 10 commandments, nine of them dealing with how we treat God and our fellow man (morality), one with observance of a day (ritualism). Our guide, being the Holy Spirit, supersedes Israel's guide. Israel's guide said nothing about loving God or our fellow man. Their guide was only the tip of the iceberg as how we are to treat our fellow man. Our guide is all inclusive. Our guide gives us no thoughts about all the rituals given only to Israel. Our guide is all about love. If we obey our guide we will not covet, commit adultery, murder, steal, we will honor our parents, not take the name of the Lord in vain nor have any other Gods or idols. We will not be arrogant, be indecent, be violent, be slanderous, be egotistic nor will we abort or commit fraud. We will have respect, be responsible and be compassionate to name a few things that are not part of the defunct 10 commandments. Yes, defunct, they went down with Israel's non compliance of the covenant. We either we live in the New Testament requirement of love or we try to live in past history, the Old Testament requirements, or parts thereof and come up fruitless. Only Jesus will save mankind.

I pray this will help you at least where I, as a Christian who wants to serve the Lord, stand.

And as you obviously believe you understand the NC much better than me, due to the long posts you are writing to me concerning it, please explain to me why sinful passions are aroused in people by the law if they live under it(rom7:5)
And please do a full and complete exegesis of Gal2:17&18 and rom7:7-11( from the kjv if you would)

 

[Bob S]

And as you obviously believe you understand the NC much better than me,

Why would you write that I obviously know more that you. I didn't know if you undrstood the old covenant expired at Calvary, so if you didn't I thought it necessary in evaluating if Christians are under Torah which includes the 10 commandments. You seem to want to put me dow for whatever I write. It is becoming very obvious there is something wrong with your "evaluations".

due to the long posts you are writing to me concerning it, please explain to me why sinful passions are aroused in people by the law if they live under it(rom7:5)
And please do a full and complete exegesis of Gal2:17&18 and rom7:7-11( from the kjv if you would)

Due to my l o n g posts ( and I was trying to be kind and explain my belief and it took being long to explain) you want me now to do more explaining so that you can come back and slap me in the face for posting another long post? Not on your life brother, if you really want to know google it . I am done trying to appease you. From now on I am only going to refute your posts as necessary, so be sure you are only writing the real truth. It is really hard to be nice to some people. God has tested me and I came close to writing things I should not. Realizing this fact I must conclude that I will never be able to help you understand and can only pray for some other way to to reach your questions and needs.

One thing I would really like to know if you would. Looking back at your life do you find that you "burn bridges" with others? Do you inspire those you try to have a relationship with?

 

[stuart lawrence]

Why would you write that I obviously know more that you. I didn't know if you undrstood the old covenant expired at Calvary, so if you didn't I thought it necessary in evaluating if Christians are under Torah which includes the 10 commandments. You seem to want to put me dow for whatever I write. It is becoming very obvious there is something wrong with your "evaluations".



Due to my l o n g posts ( and I was trying to be kind and explain my belief and it took being long to explain) you want me now to do more explaining so that you can come back and slap me in the face for posting another long post? Not on your life brother, if you really want to know google it . I am done trying to appease you. From now on I am only going to refute your posts as necessary, so be sure you are only writing the real truth. It is really hard to be nice to some people. God has tested me and I came close to writing things I should not. Realizing this fact I must conclude that I will never be able to help you understand and can only pray for some other way to to reach your questions and needs.

One thing I would really like to know if you would. Looking back at your life do you find that you "burn bridges" with others? Do you inspire those you try to have a relationship with?

I'm afraid there is nothing wrong with my deductions, but you are unable to accept the truth.

If you stole something you would specifically be conscious you sinned because you committed theft. You would not be conscious you sinned by failing to love as you should.
THROUGH the law we become conscious of sin rom3:20

The only way you can be conscious you sin due to stealing, is if that particular commandment is in your life.
And That goes for murder, coveting, taking the lords name in vain, committing adultery etc.

I am afraid that I unarguable according to spiritual truth

 

[Bob S]

These groups all affirm the Ten Commandments included in the LAW of God that defines sin-vs-righteousness called the "moral law".

And I have told you time and time again I really do not care what all the groups had or have t say about the laws given only to Israel. And as I have written time and time again the 10 commandments were not nearly a complete set of morality, but you seem not to understand.

So then "do not take God's name in vain" - still... even after the cross.

Absolutely and where have I denied that fact?

And of course the "Unit" where we find "Honor your parents" still affirmed in the NT ... Ephesians 6:2 having the 5th commandment as the "first commandment with a promise".

You seem to think I don't believe that, why?

Affirmed by Christ as the "Word of God" and the "Commandment of God" Mark 7:6-13

The real context to the message Jesus was getting across first was to supposedly Jewish Torah observers. This was written to old covenant believers and as yet the new covenant had not been ratified, so your post is nothing but a strawman.

Bible details so incredibly obvious that these groups on both sides of the issue of the God-ordained weekly day-of-worship - agree that the moral Law of God - includes the Ten Commandments...

Obvious only in the sense that they were wrong in their study of scripture and you use those men who you are supposed to think are men of Babylon to to try to prove what your cannot with the Holy Writ.

May the Holy Spirit open your eyes to the real truth and may you burn the books of heresies our false prophet has written. May He take away the thoughts of many men that were wrong and you are using to propagate your wrong belief system.

 

[Bob S]

I'm afraid there is nothing wrong with my deductions, but you are unable to accept the truth.

If you stole something you would specifically be conscious you sinned because you committed theft. You would not be conscious you sinned by failing to love as you should.
THROUGH the law we become conscious of sin rom3:20

The only way you can be conscious you sin due to stealing, is if that particular commandment is in your life.
And That goes for murder, coveting, taking the lords name in vain, committing adultery etc.

I am afraid that I unarguable according to spiritual truth

How about answering my questions in the last paragraph of my last post to you.

 

[stuart lawrence]

How about answering my questions in the last paragraph of my last post to you.

That's nothing to do with the subject matter at hand. We are here to discuss doctrine. And it is absolute fact you can only be conscious of sin through the law.
So, if a christian is conscious they sin by bearing false witness, stealing, committing adultery, covering, etc that law must be placed within them.

 

[stuart lawrence]

Morality has and never will be abolished. There is much more to morality than the few that are found in the 10 commandments

I am sorry you gleaned that from my posts. I have never intended to judge another person and if you believe I somehow came across as judging you then I am very sorry, it was not my intent. As to me following the letter, that was never my intent to portray. In fact that is just the opposite of my belief. We are not even under the law so how could I be following the letter of the law.


I think we are within talking distance, so we are not that far apart.


In thinking about all of our posts and reading this last post I don't think you have understood what I have gleaned from the Holy Writ. Let me once again try.

The law (Torah) was given to one nation, Israel, It was a covenant between God and one nation and it was a conditional covenant. If you will keep my laws and statues I will give you the land of Canaan, the promised land, for ever. Israel broke the covenant many times and each time God forgave them and reestablished the covenant. All this was in the plan of salvation and was established before the foundation of the Earth. The following Chapters, when read in full context, kinda tells us the plan.
Hebrews 4:3

For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
Hebrews 6:1
Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,
Hebrews 9:26

For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.

Hebrews 11:10
For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God.

As a nation as long as Israel observed Torah they prospered in the land of milk and honey. When they turned their backs on God they lost Canaan and, of course, the covenant. This is where Jesus steps in and gives mankind a new and better covenant one that if we enter in will give us a heavenly Canaan and it will be forever. Our covenant ratified at Calvary with Jesus own blood and His death is unconditional. Our eternal home will last forever

Now I want to try to explain why we are not bound to the 10 commandments and the remainder of the book of the law. Keeping Torah could only give the Israelites earthly Canaan. The new covenant is a spiritual covenant that gives us an eternal Canaan in Heaven. It is not a covenant of our own doing it is a covenant of what Jesus has done for us. Israel had to remain in their covenant relationship by keeping the Law. Christians remain in the new covenant by loving God and our fellow man. Jesus kept the law for mankind and offers His grace to all of us who accept it.

How can man love God? Well Jesus said that what we do for the least of mankind we do to Him. When we love others we show our love for Jesus. In return Jesus gave us a very special gift, the Holy Spirit which abides in each one of us as our guide. This fact is very important for Christians to understand. Israel's guide was Torah and Torah contained the 10 commandments, nine of them dealing with how we treat God and our fellow man (morality), one with observance of a day (ritualism). Our guide, being the Holy Spirit, supersedes Israel's guide. Israel's guide said nothing about loving God or our fellow man. Their guide was only the tip of the iceberg as how we are to treat our fellow man. Our guide is all inclusive. Our guide gives us no thoughts about all the rituals given only to Israel. Our guide is all about love. If we obey our guide we will not covet, commit adultery, murder, steal, we will honor our parents, not take the name of the Lord in vain nor have any other Gods or idols. We will not be arrogant, be indecent, be violent, be slanderous, be egotistic nor will we abort or commit fraud. We will have respect, be responsible and be compassionate to name a few things that are not part of the defunct 10 commandments. Yes, defunct, they went down with Israel's non compliance of the covenant. We either we live in the New Testament requirement of love or we try to live in past history, the Old Testament requirements, or parts thereof and come up fruitless. Only Jesus will save mankind.

I pray this will help you at least where I, as a Christian who wants to serve the Lord, stand.

Lets look at Hebrews 9:26

But now he has appeared once for all at the end of the ages to do away with sin by the sacrifice of himself

If we claim to be without sin we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us 1john1:8

So the Christian commits sin, but sin is done away with, how come?

The christian commits sin because law exists within them, but sin, unto condemnation I done away with for the believer for Christ died for their sins. Its great when scripture endorses scripture
The core foundation on which the NC stands:

I will write my laws in their minds and place them on their hearts
( this brings consciousness of sin)

Then he adds
Their sins and lawless deeds I will remember no more( this brings sin unto condemnation to be done away with for Christ died for our sins.)

So, law must exist fir the bible to be true, but you have a saviour from your sin

 

[stuart lawrence]

So why were the TC the ministry of death and condemnation?
Because of the penalty attached to them for transgression. Sin could condemn you through that penalty. Yet the law itself was Holy, righteous and good. Why would God want to remove what was Holy, righteous and good?
Remove the penalty for sin, and the good and holy law of God brings no death or condemnation.
So Christ died to remove that penalty for believers. No more law of condemnation for the believer.
The law God desires you to keep got transferred from an external law written on tablets of stone to an internal law written on tablets of human hearts(2cor3:3)
But this is very different from the law of death and condemnation, for you have a saviour from your sin.
The christian does not seek to obey by looking to the law placed within them. They look to Christ, and trust him, through the Spirit to live an ever more Holy life, for to look to the law to be justified brings condemnation. The more the believer trusts in Christ, the more the fruits of the spirit grow in their life( gal5:22) and against this fruit there is no law(verse23) for the fruit of the Spirit I the embodiment of how God wants you to live.
So why is law placed within you?
When you follow after the Holy Spirit, that law on your heart will not trouble you, for you are a work in progress and following the truth of the gospel message by looking to your saviour to live an evermore holy life.
But when you seek to follow after the flesh( for none are perfect) then you are going against what is placed in your heart. Then your conscience is seered. And you will have no rest, no peace until you come before your Father and repent of your folly.

If the NC only hinged on one core fact, Christ dying for your sins, you would have a licence to sin under it. But God cut that opportunity out by placing his laws within you he desires to be reflected I your life. A born again Christian, with the law on his heart cannot, happily without conscience sin. He can sin, but his conscience must be seered when he does.
Jesus can only be your saviour from sin, if that law is placed within you. The licence to sin under grace is removed.