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Jerusalem is the capital of Palestinian Arabs

Discussion in 'Messianic Judaism' started by CherubRam, Dec 6, 2017.

  1. CherubRam

    CherubRam My name is Michael, I am a Judaic Christian.

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    Jerusalem is the capital of Palestinian Arabs, so says Muslims.


    News media says Christians are against Jerusalem being the capital of Israel. Hmmm, I’m a Christian and that is news to me. I see no reason for the Christians of the world to care were the capital of Israel is.

    Muslims are threatening terrorism if America declares Jerusalem is capital of Israel. Muslim terrorism has been constant, so the threat means nothing.
     
  2. Basil the Great

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    We can only hope that President Trump finds the right words today in his speech today, so that he will soften the blow of saying Jerusalem is the capital of Israel, by giving some hope to the Palestinians re: their desire for a state of their own,
     
  3. Dave-W

    Dave-W Our six grandchildren Supporter

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    That is part of the antichrist spirit behind islam trying to keep the Lord from returning. (read Matt 23)
    Liberal Christianity has bought into the islamic agenda on that one.
     
  4. Dave-W

    Dave-W Our six grandchildren Supporter

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    The HOPE the Palestinians need is the Hope of Salvation in Jesus.
     
  5. sfs

    sfs Senior Member

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    I assume they mean Palestinian Christians. They're the ones who are likely to care.
     
  6. CherubRam

    CherubRam My name is Michael, I am a Judaic Christian.

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    The threat of violence over where the capital is to be is childish.
     
  7. CherubRam

    CherubRam My name is Michael, I am a Judaic Christian.

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    What group of Christians would that be?
     
  8. sfs

    sfs Senior Member

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    Sure is. For that matter, so is putting a lot of importance on where the capital is. But that's what human beings are like.
     
  9. Dave-W

    Dave-W Our six grandchildren Supporter

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    All of them that are calling for Jerusalem to be turned over to the Palestinians, and those calling for boycotting Israel. Apparently they have not read Zechariah 14 or Matthew 23.

    World Council of Churches https://www.economist.com/blogs/erasmus/2017/03/other-travel-ban
    Mennonites Mennonite Church USA votes to divest in protest of Israeli policies
    Presbyterian Church USA Presbyterian Church passes resolutions supporting BDS, slamming Israeli settlements
    United Church of Christ How a Major American Church Chose Boycotts over Peace
     
  10. CherubRam

    CherubRam My name is Michael, I am a Judaic Christian.

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    I would say that it is all due to a lack of proper education. They are in la la land and do not know it.
     
  11. Aldebaran

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    What confuses me about this is the fact that this isn't even about what the capital of Israel is. It's about where the US embassy is located. I'm not sure why the location of our embassy would be such a big issue.
     
  12. CherubRam

    CherubRam My name is Michael, I am a Judaic Christian.

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    Muslims do not want us to acknowledge Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.
     
  13. CherubRam

    CherubRam My name is Michael, I am a Judaic Christian.

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    The Palestinian Arabs want East Jerusalem for their capital, which Israel captured in 1967.
     
  14. Open Heart

    Open Heart Messianic Jewish Catholic

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    The media is not speaking for Christians. Christians are divided. There are all sorts of Christians. In Eastern Europe thy tend to be very anti-Semitic. Evangelicals in the US tend to be semitophiles, incredibly pro-Israel. And there are plenty of Christians for a two-state solution that would like to see East Jerusalem a capital of a future Palestinian state and the rest of Jerusalem the capital of Israel. Indeed Trump, by saying he has left the borders question open to negotiation, left that option on the table.
     
  15. CherubRam

    CherubRam My name is Michael, I am a Judaic Christian.

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    The Palestinians were of Greek ancestry.

    The Philistines came to the land of Canaan from Caphtor and other western coast-lands.
    Caphtor is now called Crete and the people are called Cretans.
    They warred against the Canaanites for their land to establish Palestine.

    The Palestinian people were not, and are not, of Arab ancestry. The Arab people who now live in Israel and want to reclaim Palestine; saying that, they are the Palestinians, this is not true. What is true is that they are Arabs who wish to reclaim Canaanite land.

    Note: See Jeremiah 47:4 and Amos 9:7.

    The Philistines invaded Canaan about 1400 B.C, and a Hebrew settlement of Canaan about 1200 B.C.

    In A.D. 135, the Roman conquerors renamed the land of Israel, Provincia Syria-Palestina, after Israel's ancient enemies, the Philistines. From that time forward, all those living there were known as "Palestinians."

    At that time, Arabs hadn't even dreamed that "Palestine" was their land. That ambition would not take hold for another 500 years until the advent of Islam, and even then Arabs would not call themselves Palestinians.


    In World War II, Britain had a volunteer brigade known as "The Palestinian Brigade." It was made up entirely of Jews. The Arabs were fighting on Hitler's side.
    As late as the 1950s, Arabs refused to be called Palestinians and declared that if there were such a people, they were Jews.

    To the British Peel Commission in 1937, a local Arab leader testified, "There is no such country as Palestine. 'Palestine' is a term the Zionists invented."

    Professor Philip Hitti, an Arab historian, testified to an Anglo-American Committee of inquiry in 1946, "There is no such thing as Palestine in history—absolutely not!"

    To the UN Security Council on May 31, 1956, Ahmed Shukairy declared, "It is common knowledge that Palestine is nothing but southern Syria."

    In 1964, Shukairy became the founding chairman of the Palestine Liberation Organization and coined the infamous slogan, "We'll drive the Jews into the sea."
    And he wasn't even a "Palestinian"! Like Arafat, he was born in Cairo.
    The Palestine Liberation Organization was not founded by Palestinians but has been used in Islam's war against Israel.

    Today's Arab "Palestinians" are close relatives of the Arabs living in neighboring countries, from which most of them, or their immediate ancestors came.
     
  16. CherubRam

    CherubRam My name is Michael, I am a Judaic Christian.

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    Hamas called for a new Palestinian uprising.


    Muslims calling for terrorism.


    Taliban called upon Muslims around the world and in Islamic countries to back the “oppressed Palestinian nation.”


    White people need to be on guard for Muslim attacks around the world.
     
  17. Aryeh Jay

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    White People, the only ones that matter, Right?
     
  18. Dave-W

    Dave-W Our six grandchildren Supporter

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    The Palestinians, especially the Christians, need to recognize God's irrevocable ceding the land to the Jews:

    Josh 1.4 Your territory will extend from the desert to Lebanon, and from the great river, the Euphrates—all the Hittite country—to the Mediterranean Sea in the west.
     
  19. Heber Book List

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    Not so much that Israel captured it, but that the antagonists that started the war lost the ground to the victors - Israel. :)
     
  20. Dave-W

    Dave-W Our six grandchildren Supporter

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    Um - there are a LOT of "white" muslims.
     
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