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I appreciate that this is so funny to you... hope you will realize one day what it was...
Who said I was being funny? This forum is rife with scoffers and sceptics of our beliefs... I thank God for the few brave souls that continue to defend it or else it would turn into a speculative circus in no time.
If you think you are part of the solution and not the problem with our denomination today, you are sadly mistaken.
maybe I am mistaken, but wouldnt the word 'subjective' be more appropriate in the given context?
So you never considered the statement of the angel to be a prophecy?
hmmm... that puts us into an awkward position...
would that statement be a prophecy if the angel hadnt spoken? and only egw had made that claim... and used the words I was shown instead of the Angel speaking?
an angel is a messenger as many people on this forum have argued. so if a messenger delivers a message regarding the future wouldnt that qualify as a prophecy?
pardon me but I think this is the point where it gets confusing...
cause if we assume that the statement wasnt a prophecy, spoken by an angel... then what was it?
Sho you right!Thanks for the correction because that was most certainly the word I should have used.
Personally, no. I can't speak for anyone else though.[/quote]cool
well, somehow I get the expression that cannot be serious here and are just playing with me...
No. The return of Christ is in stone. When He shall return however is stated to be once the message has gone through all the world. How long will that take? I'd say as long as it takes for the people of God to get moving.so is the 2nd coming conditional as well, and may in effect never take place?
in regard to this statement I think it is merely a lame excuse...
maybe some things are conditional but why should this one be?
Personally I would say that its unfair to have a prophecy that is conditional without telling the people what the condition is
but lets have another look
"I was shown the company present at the Conference, Said the angel: "Some food for worms, some subjects of the seven last plagues, some will be alive and remain upon the earth to be translated at the coming of Jesus." Ellen G. White, 1Testimonies, p. 131-132. May 27, 1856
---- so she WAS SHOWN....
what does that mean?
---- so an angel spoke to her....
what does that mean?
what was the whole purpose of this so-called statement then? if its not a prophecy, neither was it fulfilled...
Personally, no. I can't speak for anyone else though.
well, my personal belief is that God knows the day of the 2nd coming... He knew all the time about it... and never cared about people getting it together... but thats my idea of how omniscient God is... you may disagree here...
Why did He send Jesus when He sent Him...?? any idea? I mean, He could have waited until the Jews were ready to receive Him, maybe it would have happened one day...
Personally I believe it was the appointed time to send and sacrifice Jesus, in a similar fashion the day of the 2nd coming is not dependent upon some peoples business but rather the Lords doing... and will... of course you might disagree with this...
In the days of Christ there were those who were blind followers of the blind teachers and they were in the majority and there were those who followed the greatest Teacher ever to walk among men and these were in the minority.
I believe the same thing is happening today. Jesus may not be walking among us in the flesh right now but He is certainly visiting His people through His Representative, the Holy Spirit, and again those led by Him will be in the minority. To follow Jesus means to be ridiculed by scoffers and sceptics and to be in antagonism to the religious authorities who resist the light sent from Heaven as given in the Testimonies. Jesus said some things to the Jews that were difficult for them to understand and for that reason many stayed away. Mrs. White did say some things to us that are difficult to understand and for that reason some are ready to criticize and cavil. But those who are led by the Spirit are students at the school of Christ and they are taught of God and who can teach like Him! They know that there are only apparent contradictions in the sacred writings. They will not throw away their birthright just because they encounter a difficult statement. The apostle Peter warned that there were difficult things to understand in the Scriptures. There is nothing new under the sun.
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Are you implying that if somebody disagrees with egw that he is throwing away his birthright...???
May I ask you what the recourse will be for those who disparaged the message and spoke out against Sr White, should the message we've been spreading turn out to be true?
you tell me
I asked you. If you don't have an answer than that's fine. But this is a question you should consider.
Honestly I dont think that speaking out against egw will have negative consequences...
Now what will happen if the LDS system turned out to be true... will I be lost...??
Let's stay focused. So you honestly believe that if everything we teach including what we believe about Sr White turns out to be true, which would mean she was a Messenger of God, that talking out against her, will have no negative consequences?
Red herring
Why are you looking at websites for the truth instead of looking at the Bible?just out of curiosity, how did she pass the tests of a true prophet, there are so many websites with substantial evidence to the contrary....
Why are you looking at websites for the truth instead of looking at the Bible?
are you trying to scare me
look I put Jesus above egw so I should be on the safe side no matter what...
besides so what do you teach will happen to those who spoke out against her? Will they receive some extra punishment? will that nullify their faith in Jesus?
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