James 5:16-healing question

[Archivist]

OK, we are all sinners, now please answer the rest of the OP or stop trolling.

I don't appreciate being accused of trolling when I am not. If you look at my post 33 I did answer the rest of the OP.

 

[W2L]

I don't appreciate being accused of trolling when I am not. If you look at my post 33 I did answer the rest of the OP.

My apologies.

 

[JacksBratt]

Do all sinners get sick? How about those who dont sin, do they ever get sick? Is it possible that James 5:16 is actually referring to sin as an illness? Jesus refers to sin as an illness (Matthew 9:12) and Isaiah seems to do the same thing. (Isaiah 58:8)


James 5:16 Confess your trespasses[e] to one another, and pray for one another, that you may be healed. The effective, fervent prayer of a righteous man avails much.

Just curious as to who these people are who "don't sin"? I don't know of any.

Edit: Sorry have not read any but the first three posts on page one.... will read and comment if I feel like I can contribute anything new.

 

[W2L]

Just curious as to who these people are who "don't sin"? I don't know of any.

What did you do when you repented?

Romans 6:21 What fruit did you have then in the things of which you are now ashamed? For the end of those things is death

 

[W2L]

looks like i wont be getting any serious replies.

 

[disciple1]

I see your point. Thank you.

Its this verse that im referring to

16 Confess your trespassesto one another, and pray for one another, that you may be healed. The effective, fervent prayer of a righteous man avails much.

James chapter 5 verse 16
Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person is powerful and effective.

I think your still missing the point, therefore confess your sins to each other.
I look at some women lustfully, I sometimes view inappropriate content, and sometimes touch.

I still love my neighbor as myself though, I give to someone if they ask, I help people when I can.

And I only confessed my sins to help, if your ashamed of confessing your sins, you probably don't know their the same as other people.

James chapter 5 verse 16
Therefore confess your sins to each other

Or do the people on this thread just want to look righteous like the fake Christians.

Hope I haven't broke any CF rules.

 

[W2L]

James chapter 5 verse 16
Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person is powerful and effective.

I think your still missing the point, therefore confess your sins to each other.
I look at some women lustfully, I sometimes view inappropriate content, and sometimes touch.

I still love my neighbor as myself though, I give to someone if they ask, I help people when I can.

And I only confessed my sins to help, if your ashamed of confessing your sins, you probably don't know their the same as other people.

James chapter 5 verse 16
Therefore confess your sins to each other

Or do the people on this thread just want to look righteous like the fake Christians.

Hope I haven't broke any CF rules.

I have no clue what you mean.

 

[disciple1]

I have no clue what you mean.

James chapter 5 verse 16
Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person is powerful and effective.

In that verse it says confess your sins, to one another, I can understand Christians not wanting to, most of them are fakes.

 

[W2L]

In that verse it says confess your sins, to one another, I can understand Christians not wanting to, most of them are fakes.

(excuse me) What exactly are you saying?

 

[disciple1]

James chapter 5 verse 16
Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person is powerful and effective.

What exactly are you saying

(excuse me) What exactly are you saying?

I was just speaking the truth, I guess no one else wants to yet.

 

[W2L]

I was just speaking the truth, I guess no one else wants to yet.

Do you have anything useful to ad to this discussion?

 

[Winken]

James 5:16 Confess your trespasses[e] to one another, and pray for one another, that you may be healed. The effective, fervent prayer of a righteous man avails much.

Confess your trespasses to each other, pray for each other, that you may not give in to the sinful nature, but resume walking on the Path that He prepared for you. The effective, fervent prayer of one who has been born again produces results.

 

[W2L]

Confess your trespasses to each other, pray for each other, that you may not give in to the sinful nature, but resume walking on the Path that He prepared for you. The effective, fervent prayer of one who has been born again produces results.

Thank you for the reply.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Do all sinners get sick? How about those who dont sin, do they ever get sick? Is it possible that James 5:16 is actually referring to sin as an illness? Jesus refers to sin as an illness (Matthew 9:12) and Isaiah seems to do the same thing. (Isaiah 58:8)

James 5:16 Confess your trespasses[e] to one another, and pray for one another, that you may be healed. The effective, fervent prayer of a righteous man avails much.

I have always pondered on why some people get sick as a child, while others rarely get sick. I would hate to think a Christian would view a Christian that is sick as having sinned. I will add more later.
This story in John 9 comes to mind.

1 As Jesus was passing by, He saw a man blind from birth.
2 His disciples asked Him, “Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?”
3 Jesus answered, “Neither this man nor his parents sinned, but this happened that the works of God would be displayed in him.
4 While it is daytime, we must do the work of Him who sent Me. Night is coming, when no one can work.
5 While I am in the world, I Am the light of the world.”
6 When Jesus had said this, He spat on the ground, made some mud, and applied it to the man’s eyes.
7 Then He told him, “Go, wash in the pool of Siloam” (which means Sent). So the man went and washed, and came back seeing.

13 They brought to the Pharisees the man who had been blind.
14 Now the day on which Jesus had made the mud and opened his eyes was a Sabbath.
15 So the Pharisees also asked him how he had received his sight.
24 So a second time they called for the man who had been blind and said, “Give glory to God! We know that this man is a sinner.”
34 They replied, “You were born in utter sin, and you are instructing us?” And they threw him out.

And this one about the Jewish physicians who couldn't heal this ailing woman:

Mar 5:26
and had suffered many things from many physicians.
She had spent all that she had and was no better, but rather grew worse.

 

[W2L]

I have always pondered on why some people get sick as a child, while others rarely get sick. I would hate to think a Christian would view a Christian that is sick as having sinned. I will add more later.
This story in John 9 comes to mind.

1 As Jesus was passing by, He saw a man blind from birth.
2 His disciples asked Him, “Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?”
3 Jesus answered, “Neither this man nor his parents sinned, but this happened that the works of God would be displayed in him.
4 While it is daytime, we must do the work of Him who sent Me. Night is coming, when no one can work.
5 While I am in the world, I Am the light of the world.”
6 When Jesus had said this, He spat on the ground, made some mud, and applied it to the man’s eyes.
7 Then He told him, “Go, wash in the pool of Siloam” (which means Sent). So the man went and washed, and came back seeing.

13 They brought to the Pharisees the man who had been blind.
14 Now the day on which Jesus had made the mud and opened his eyes was a Sabbath.
15 So the Pharisees also asked him how he had received his sight.
24 So a second time they called for the man who had been blind and said, “Give glory to God! We know that this man is a sinner.”
34 They replied, “You were born in utter sin, and you are instructing us?” And they threw him out.

And this one about the Jewish physicians who couldn't heal this ailing woman:

Mar 5:26
and had suffered many things from many physicians.
She had spent all that she had and was no better, but rather grew worse.

Thank you for your thoughtful reply, and the scriptures.

 

[disciple1]

Confess your trespasses to each other, pray for each other, that you may not give in to the sinful nature, but resume walking on the Path that He prepared for you. The effective, fervent prayer of one who has been born again produces results.

1 Kings chapter 8 verse 46
"When they sin against you--for there is no one who does not sin--and you become angry with them and give them over to their enemies, who take them captive to their own lands, far away or near;
2 Chronicles chapter 6 verse 36
"When they sin against you--for there is no one who does not sin--and you become angry with them and give them over to the enemy, who takes them captive to a land far away or near;
Ecclesiastes chapter 7 verse 20
Indeed, there is no one on earth who is righteous, no one who does what is right and never sins.
1 John chapter 1 verse 8
If anyone claims to be without sin they deceive themselves and the truth is not in them.


Matthew chapter 23 verse 28
In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness.

 

[W2L]

1 Kings chapter 8 verse 46
"When they sin against you--for there is no one who does not sin--and you become angry with them and give them over to their enemies, who take them captive to their own lands, far away or near;
2 Chronicles chapter 6 verse 36
"When they sin against you--for there is no one who does not sin--and you become angry with them and give them over to the enemy, who takes them captive to a land far away or near;
Ecclesiastes chapter 7 verse 20
Indeed, there is no one on earth who is righteous, no one who does what is right and never sins.
1 John chapter 1 verse 8
If anyone claims to be without sin they deceive themselves and the truth is not in them.


Matthew chapter 23 verse 28
In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness.

Thank you for derailing this thread. The only question is, why?

 

[Winken]

1 Kings chapter 8 verse 46
"When they sin against you--for there is no one who does not sin--and you become angry with them and give them over to their enemies, who take them captive to their own lands, far away or near;
2 Chronicles chapter 6 verse 36
"When they sin against you--for there is no one who does not sin--and you become angry with them and give them over to the enemy, who takes them captive to a land far away or near;
Ecclesiastes chapter 7 verse 20
Indeed, there is no one on earth who is righteous, no one who does what is right and never sins.
1 John chapter 1 verse 8
If anyone claims to be without sin they deceive themselves and the truth is not in them.


Matthew chapter 23 verse 28
In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness.

Context, context, context. Research it!

 

[Archivist]

Thank you for derailing this thread. The only question is, why?

W2L, please don't make statements in the OP and then deride responses when they specifically reference only that portion of the OP. Limiting a response to an incorrect statement (and it was an incorrect statement because we are all sinners) in the OP is not derailing a thread.

The fact is that everyone gets sick--good people and bad people, young and old, Christians and non-Christians. We don't all develop life-threatening illnesses but we do all get sick. It is not punishment limited to sinners because we are all sinners, every one of us. LittleLamb ofJesus has, as usual, posted a thoughtful response. What sin has a little child committed that would in any way warrant cancer? But it happens. It certainly isn't because of some sin that little child committed.

 

[W2L]

W2L, please don't make statements in the OP and then deride responses when they specifically reference only that portion of the OP. Limiting a response to an incorrect statement (and it was an incorrect statement because we are all sinners) in the OP is not derailing a thread.

The fact is that everyone gets sick--good people and bad people, young and old, Christians and non-Christians. We don't all develop life-threatening illnesses but we do all get sick. It is not punishment limited to sinners because we are all sinners, every one of us. LittleLamb ofJesus has, as usual, posted a thoughtful response. What sin has a little child committed that would in any way warrant cancer? But it happens. It certainly isn't because of some sin that little child committed.

Strrawman
I would ask you not to make statements like this. I never, in any way, said that sickness was a punishment from God. All you have done so far is ignore the intent of the OP and erect strawman