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[Tone]

<shrug> That doesn't change my answer. This is a political, economic and human density problem, not a religious one.

Have I said anything religious?

 

[zephcom]

Have I said anything religious?

Yes. Torah is a religious book.

 

[Tone]

Still wouldn't help a bit.

I think you answer too hastily. Are you good at math...I think if you do the math of Sabbath observance (including the year Sabbaths for the land) over a period of a couple thousand years...there would certainly be a difference.

 

[WherevertheWindblows]

<shrug> People fart too.

Sure but people can take beano or gasx or something, why not feed the cows with it? Such a simple solution.

 

[Tone]

Yes. Torah is a religious book.

Torah means instruction...I was addressing the instructions of a Creator to His creation. Kind of like the instruction manual that comes with most technology...it tells you how to properly maintain and use the technology (Earth).

*My point being, is that by following the manual, we wouldn't be in this predicament.

 

[zephcom]

I think you answer too hastily. Are you good at math...I think if you do the math of Sabbath observance (including the year Sabbaths for the land) over a period of a couple thousand years...there would certainly be a difference.

Wouldn't make any difference for the number of humans on the planet. Wouldn't make any difference for the amount of CO2 said humans are putting into the atmosphere. Nor would it make any difference in the politics and economics of the planet.

 

[zephcom]

Sure but people can take beano or gasx or something, why not feed the cows with it? Such a simple solution.

Like I said in the same post, it is more of an issue for the amount of land and produce they eat for the return we get in meat that is the real problem with them.

 

[Tone]

Wouldn't make any difference for the number of humans on the planet. Wouldn't make any difference for the amount of CO2 said humans are putting into the atmosphere. Nor would it make any difference in the politics and economics of the planet.

Sure it would.

 

[WherevertheWindblows]

It would certainly help because they would almost all die and over population is the primary cause of all this problem. If the human population was about two billion instead of nearly eight billion, the whole problem would evaporate.

Are you into that Georgia Guidestone religion? Instructions on stones to keep the population under 500,000 or something like that.

So much for be fruitful and multiply eh'?

Just like aborting babies there seems to be a sort of religion emerging that centers around depopulation. I think theres a group that just wants to kill huge populations of people

 

[zephcom]

Torah means instruction...I was addressing the instructions of a Creator to His creation. Kind of like the instruction manual that comes with most technology...it tells you how to properly maintain and use the technology (Earth).

*My point being, is that by following the manual, we wouldn't be in this predicament.

-You- may have meant that, but the reality is that the Torah is still a religious book. And this is still not a religious problem.

Other religions have their religious books and I don't recommend using them to solve this issue either.

 

[WherevertheWindblows]

Like I said in the same post, it is more of an issue for the amount of land and produce they eat for the return we get in meat that is the real problem with them.

Its always something isn't it?

 

[Tone]

Sure it would.

Are you suggesting that overpopulation has nothing to do with technological advances and overproduction...and that Sabbaths (no work) would have no effect on this?

 

[zephcom]

Sure it would.

Actually, no. The Torah is the religious book of the Jews and the Jews created the atomic bomb for us. It is the Jews who keep the Palestinians locked away in an open air concentration camp.

They are no more special than anyone else on the planet and their religious book doesn't change that.

 

[zephcom]

Its always something isn't it?

Yep.

 

[Tone]

-You- may have meant that, but the reality is that the Torah is still a religious book. And this is still not a religious problem.

Other religions have their religious books and I don't recommend using them to solve this issue either.

According to your definition of religion, which is erroneously divorced from life on earth, but not according to what true religion actually is. Your word connotations are irrelevant to what I am actually saying, as far as the Sabbaths and global warming...or climate change are concerned.

 

[Tone]

Actually, no. The Torah is the religious book of the Jews and the Jews created the atomic bomb for us. It is the Jews who keep the Palestinians locked away in an open air concentration camp.

They are no more special than anyone else on the planet and their religious book doesn't change that.

Actually, you know far less than you think about words and books and people.

 

[zephcom]

Are you suggesting that overpopulation has nothing to do with technological advances and overproduction...and that Sabbaths (no work) would have no effect on this?

Yep.

You do know how we get babies...right? Giving people days off contributes to that.

Technology by itself isn't the problem. What the technology and how it is used combined with the huge amount of people using it is the problem.

 

[Tone]

I see that ignorance is rife in this thread...I will focus my attention on the movie I was watching. Shalom.

 

[zephcom]

Actually, you know far less than you think about words and books and people.

That is just an opinion. And, frankly, I have no reason to agree with it.

 

[zephcom]

I see that ignorance is rife in this thread...I will focus my attention on the movie I was watching. Shalom.

Is that suppose to cut me to the quick as you bounce out of the room? I've spend too many years on Internet forums for that to have any effect on me.

Shalom.