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Why is this thread in the Eschatology section?
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Or she may have been a child and an innocent victim of his assault.In the case of sexual assault......give the man was possessed....she may have let down her walls.
God flood the world not because people were wicked but because angels raped woman and corrupted DNA , Noah was not perfect like sinless because we would call him Messiah if he was , he was perfect in fact that his DNA was not corrupted .
Women tend to mold to men. A man marries a virgin, and she may grow feeling for him over time, and change to be with him.
The Soul is intrinsic. It is part of you. It is your character and experiences and decisions you have made. Spirits influence motivations. How is someone motived? Someone with the Spirit of God tends think about God and do God related activities a lot. Not to be seen doing it but because intrinsically, he is motived to. He loves God.
Many people go to Church and they may have walls up. They have walls along their soul that they may have built to keep people out. They may have built walls up to God. Someone who accepts God's spirit lets down those walls.
In the case of sexual assault......give the man was possessed....she may have let down her walls. It is a tough topic to discuss. Someone willingly choosing to go to a Temple of Baal to be a Prostitute is a lot like someone choosing to be in a Black Mass.
God flood the world not because people were wicked but because angels raped woman and corrupted DNA , Noah was not perfect like sinless because we would call him Messiah if he was , he was perfect in fact that his DNA was not corrupted
For it to be like the days of Noah, all sin has to corrupted in your view?
Verse 2 many interpret to mean Godly men procreated with ungodly women. To me that makes no sense .
1. That kind of union will not produce giants
You will refuse to accept the idea about the Godly men (or people) procreated with unbelieving women (or people) because you don't believe they will produce giants or Nephilims to fit your false doctrines of Supermen, Supernatural, or celestial fallen angels. That is where many of you got giants all misunderstood.
The Hebrew word [nephel] was often used by people like you to name for an alien race or celestial being. The fact is, it is NOT a name for an extraterrestrial or some being that is foreign to this world. No! It is a DESCRIPTION of a TYPE of people who are already existed on earth. The root meaning of the world Nephel is giant, from "FELL'er" or to make fall.
What God was talking about is someone "BIG" or a "GIANT" person. Thus, it is correctly translated giants here. But there is no mystery here, really. It has to do with a giant in STATURE or a giant in position. As in famous or in a champion. They are NOT the product of angels mating. The whole idea is preposterous! The word translated Giants just means they were big, or of great stature. It didn't identify an alien or angels.
In fact, we can see that clearly as we read the word as it is seen in Numbers chapter 13:
Numbers 13:33
You see, here we have that word again. Nephel, the sons of Anak (a man). That is again proof that the word nephel is not describing a new race or angels, but is an attribute. Because they were the sons of the Anakims, who Joshua destroyed in Canaan. These could hardly be the same race of nephilims that were "before" the flood, so the whole idea concerning this word is ludicrous. Or are we to believe that angels dropped by again after the flood to mate with Human women once again? Notice that second word translated Giants is the Hebrew word [gibbowr]. It means warriors or strong Champions. And note the fear of these men were because they were--BIG! That is why they were called nephel (Giants). Verse 32 declares plainly that they were "of great stature". So clearly they were afraid of them because they were unusually big people. But it has nothing to do with angels mating with the daughters of men anymore than the tall people in Africa today have anything to do with that. They were simply a tribe or family of big people who would frighten you if you had to battle them. Would you rather to go to battle against an army of people the size of a basketball or football player, or an army of men standing only about 5 feet 9 inches. The answer is obvious. The natural man delights in creating a mystery where none exists because the truth doesn't seem exotic or sensational enough for him so that they desire something more. But the truth is that these were the giants in the land of that day, and nothing more.
- "And there we saw the giants [nephel] the sons of Anak, which come of the giants [gibbowr], and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight."
And yes, there was... a 2nd irruption of the fallen angels mating with flesh woman again after... the flood. It is what "also after that" is pointing to in the Gen.6:4 verse.
Gen 6:2
2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
KJV
Gen 6:4
4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
KJV
No. God was not talking about fallen angels mating with earthly women. You got the sons of God part wrong. You fail to understand that there were two families in this world. There is the family of God, the sons of God, and the family of the Devil, the daughters of man. Since the beginning with Cain and Abel, God has always separated his children from the unbelieving seed. Abel was a child of God, while Cain lived in unbelief, and at enmity with both God and his son, Abel. Thus Cain ultimately killed Abel, and was, in turn, send out, "separated" from the family of God and become the family of Satan, spiritually speaking.
It was that these were the sons of God who were commanded not to mix with the lawless daughters of men. It was a continuation of the principles recorded in Genesis, that they were "set apart" so that they might not be tempted by their Godlessness, idolatry, and wickedness. This is what the sons of God lusted after! Ezra wrote this and confirmed what God said in Genesis 6!
Ezra 9:1
Note the error of what the sons of Israel (the Sons of God) had done here? They had done the exact same thing that we read about in Genesis chapter 6. They had desired and gone after the infidel daughters of men who lived in the nations around them. Look at the language there, as it shows this was an abomination to God. God says they mingled the Holy seed. Simply put, these Sons of God were not to be yoked together with unbelievers, and that is exactly what they did. They were not be seduced by their beauty to take of their daughters for wives, nor let their sons go after these women who didn't know God. This is an exact same principle that the sons of God are to uphold EVEN TODAY! Although it seems our churches have chosen to abandon God's laws concerning this precept and do whatever seems right in their own eyes, exactly as those in Israel of old did.
- "..The priests and the Levites, have not Separated themselves from the people of the lands, doing according to their abominations, even of the canaanites, the hittites, the perizites, the Jebusites, the Amonites, the Moabites, the Egyptians, the Amorites. For they have taken of their Daughters for themselves, and for their sons: so that the HOLY SEED have mingled themselves with the people of those lands.."
Genesis 6:2
They took wives of the un-saved daughters of the giants [nephil], the big or renowned people of that time, and they gave birth to children who were spiritually divided and became mighty champions or famous. Probably much like what we think of as famous gladiators. An analogy today would probably be man's heroes, like basketball players, or great leaders, movie stars, or even famous false prophets like Joel Osteen or Oprah. In other words, someone who is a hero, famous, a protagonist, someone renowned or a champion. People were looking up to them and all the laws of God were left behind (sound familiar). That's what happens when you have the children of God yoked with unbelievers. The seed is mingled with unbelief and there is a falling away from God because the spouse (being ungodly) doesn't want to follow God's laws.
- "that the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose."
So please spare us from your fantasy doctrine about sexual lust fallen angels breeding earthly women end ends up having giants. This is NOT what God talked about. You got wrong idea about everything surrounding sons of God and Giants.
No. God was not talking about fallen angels mating with earthly women. You got the sons of God part wrong. You fail to understand that there were two families in this world. There is the family of God, the sons of God, and the family of the Devil, the daughters of man. ....