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Featured It Will Be Like the Days of Noah

Discussion in 'Eschatology - Endtimes & Prophecy Forum' started by Man on Fire, Jan 20, 2018.

  1. Man on Fire

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    The Question: Given The Bible, Spiritual Law, and profound Biblical based insight God has given you, why did God flood the Earth in the story of Noah, what was going on, and was what is going on measurable?

    In answering this question, I am not getting into any geology as many shows or documentaries about The Flood do. I am answering the question in terms of the human condition, and what may have occurred. Books could be, and may have been written on this subject. This will be short and to the point. The audience is more someone who has a lot of Bible knowledge.

    Adam and Original Sin

    With Adam, sin enters the world. God is Holy and Separate from sin. Studying the Bible, we can come up with definitions of things that are clean, and how God judges sin. We can come up with definitions of righteousness and wickedness.

    Socratic Paradox - Given all man is out to do what he believes is good, and in his best interest, how can evil exist in the world? Satan exists. Satan is a liar. In Romans 1 why is the world in a degraded state? They reject Truth of God for a lie. Various spiritual dominoes may have started falling. Nothing new happens under the sun. (1 Ecclesiastes 1:9-18)

    God is like a Judge in a courtroom. A judge is Your Honor or The Honorable. Being righteous and holy, God may be compelled to act in specific ways when mankind falls into sin.

    Satan is a liar and thief. Authority over the Earth was given to Adam. Satan ends up with authority in original sin.

    Man is the Head. Woman the Neck.

    Christ is to man as man is to woman. (1 Corinthians 11:3) This is a very important verse to understand. It is very profound. God is love. (1 John 4:8) Faith is like marriage, and man may learn things about God and Faith in his marriage.

    Man is the head. Woman the neck turning the head. That is man is a leader. He is a decision maker. Woman influences those decisions. A husband and wife are planning to go to a restaurant and eat. Husband turns to his wife and asks "Where do you want to go tonight?" She says "I don't know." She wants him to make a decision. Husband and wife are laying in bed. Wife says "I am cold." What does I am cold mean? It may mean that her husband is supposed turn on the heat or go get a blanket. Man is the head woman the neck turning the head.

    Men are often servants to their sorrow or misery. A man's wife may make him miserable till he makes the decisions she would like him to make. Is this good? It happens?

    A man growing in Faith with God, may have to hit rock bottom. He may need to have nothing else but God. Joseph and Daniel were two men that became slaves and prisoners. They may have had nothing else but God. They became servants to their sorrow or misery. A song that displays this to some extent is "Dying Time" Black Label Society.

    Ancient people's built marvels like The Pyramids or The Temple Mount in Jerusalem. The science or engineering behind how they did so, modern science has not figured out or been able to recreate. Why? Part of the reason why is man is a servant to his sorrow to some extent. A man in 1000 BC may be looking for ways to make his job easier. A man has a labor intensive construction or engineering job? He wants to find the easiest and most effective ways to do it with the tools and materials he has available. Various men may have engineered a variety of ways to make their job easier and more effective.

    Pharaoh sees the King of Babylon making great monuments. Surely Egypt is greater than Babylon? Pharoah works to create his own monuments. The Chief Engineer who is hired to oversea the project may have his life and glory, and that of his family at stake. Given he is successful, he may become famous and his family well off. Given he fails he may be cast into shame or executed. It is a do or die scenario? He finds ways to be successful?

    We could say that modern science has not been able to recreate how The Ancients built many marvels because they are not servants to their sorrow under the same conditions as the Ancients. They can cheat with computers and other things, and there may have been lost legacies and heritages of men creating technologies to make their lives easier, and/or for Glory and Prestige.

    Christ is to man as man is to woman. The Greater Church is a Bride for Christ. Turns his head. God brings the good and the bad. How has the Church been turning God's head? Man is the head. Woman the neck turning the head.

    More on: Man is the Head. Woman the Neck.

    Women, to some degree, are guardians of tradition. On Thanksgiving who usually cooks the meal? Woman. On Christmas, who often decorates and cooks and buys a lot of presents? Woman. Some roles may change from family to family depending on their traditions, but generally, women better quality of life. (Or are supposed to.)

    What happens when a civilization's women are corrupted? When they are used, and taught to be immoral? God instructed Israel not to take foreign wives. Solomon's wives turned his head from God.

    Females in 2017 have been raised with Madonna, Brittany Spears, Miley Cyrus, and so on. Marilyn Monroe is a cultural icon but was more of a home wrecker? She was with John F. Kennedy who was married with children? Society has been rewarding bad behavior.


    Sodom

    In looking for why The Flood occurred, it is helpful to look at Sodom and Gomorrah, and why God used Assyria to destroy The state of Israel and Babylon to destroy the state Judah.
    Nothing new happens under the sun. God destroyed Jerusalem for a similar reason as he destroyed Sodom. Man falls into sin, and certain things may start happening.

    God is Holy and Separate from sin. God is god you cannot control. Pagans made gods to control something, that is, there are spiritual laws, and Satan is a liar, and false gods were made that may have ran along these spiritual laws to some degree. Pagan gods were known as being tyrannical and doing horrible things to man. God is good. God is righteous and holy.

    Moloch worship involved sacrificing children to a bullheaded false god. Baal worship involved temple prostitution. Some people looking at Ezekiel 16:48-50 would point out that sexual immorality is not specific mentioned there. Sexual immorality is inferred.

    God is love. God is first and last. God was man's first love as creator. God will be man's last love. Every knee shall bow and every tongue confess. The people of Sodom and in Judah had hearts of stone. Hearts of Stone like the Rolling Stones song? In Ezekiel 36:26 God gives people a heart of flesh instead of a heart of stone. Harlotry is an ongoing theme in the Bible. (Ezekiel 16)(Ezekiel 23)(Revelations 17) On one layer sexual immorality and sin are happening. On another layer, idolatry is happening. Idolatry and adulatory are similar words for a reason. What came first? Sin as in sexual sin leading to idolatry or idolatry which leads to sexual sin and adulatory?

    Followers of The Bible are to give God Glory, and dwell on him. Pagans made false gods for a variety of everyday things. For example, during the time of the Maccabees, a Greek Gymnasium was built in Jerusalem. There may have been a variety of rituals and pagan worship that went along with going to a Greek Gymnasium. Any Jew going to a Greek Gymnasium would be committing idolatry potentially. This helped lead to bad things going on in The Temple, and a revolution?

    Adulatory

    In studying Exorcism, we find that demons may be passed through sexual immorality. Many Catholic Exorcists, for example, have a lot of females that come to them after a sexual assault. They are looking for an exorcism, and believe they have a demon.

    Your Body is a Temple. The Spirit of God lives in you. Someone asks in the Spirit of God, and works to tune his thumos to Godly character. He seeks after God.

    There are other spirits. Other spirits seem to have a character. A possessed person may display a certain character or be prone to certain decisions. Someone going to the Temple of Baal or engaging in Moloch Worship may be a possessed person with a certain type of character. They would be doing things God sees as wicked and an abomination. They would be rejecting the Spirit of God for something else.

    Noah and The Flood

    There are spiritual laws. God is a Judge like a Judge in a Courtroom. Given a Noah and The Flood, certain things were happening. Nothing new happens under the sun?
     
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    Many people may have no idea what spiritual laws are.

    Spiritual Law.

    The Question is: What are Spiritual Laws, and how does someone go about finding them?

    Spiritual Truth

    In addressing Spiritual Law we are going to throw out all questions and doubt about the existence of God. The Bible asserts Truth. We are going to answer the question with the premise the Bible is Truth and God is reality. I will give some statements that are true with some short videos or articles to aid in understanding.

    God is Holy and Separate from sin. What does it mean to be Holy?

    Short Video: "God's Holiness" The Bible Project.

    Holiness is a form of purity. It means being clean. Cleanliness is next to Godliness. Sin angers God. The Sun could be used as an allegory for God, and the closer someone gets to God, the more intense it gets. To be in the presence of God in an impure state may mean death and/or a lot of pain.

    God being separate from sin, God does not lie. God spoke and something was created. There is The Power of The Tongue. We have The WORD of God.

    In the Bible, when God gives instructions, someone should follow instructions. Given God says only a Levite may touch the Ark, then only a Levite should touch the Ark. When Uzzah touches the Ark he dies.

    God gives clear Instructions to a Prophet. A man walks the line. The Prophet became sidetracked. He was mauled by a Lion.

    God has righteous anger. Getting into Spiritual Law and Philosophy we have: "Thumos and The Bible: Why Thumos is Important."

    In studying the Bible we come to an understanding of what Holy means. We come to an understanding of who God is, and what makes him angry. God is a square. God says something or says something through a Prophet, then it happens. This is important to understanding Spiritual Law.

    God is a Square. He is a Judge like a Judge in a Courtroom. He is your Honor or The Honorable. It is hip to be square?

    Spiritual Laws

    As a introduction to The Spiritual or The Principalities, I like: "Spiritual Realms."

    Because of my connection with God, reading The Torah, I may end up seeing Spiritual Laws. All of The Laws of Moses were due to Spiritual Laws. What is Holy and Good and what is not? How does God work? What is happening in the Principalities?

    It was around 1300 BC. A bull gores a man. What does the owner do? That is a lot of good meat? It was a good bull? It would be more practical to either save the bull or eat the meat?

    Man is made in the image of God. What man does may reflect into the spiritual. The Spiritual may be said to be like a mirror? Looking at the Prophets, Isaiah walked naked through the streets of Jerusalem for three years. Why? Man is made in the image of God. A man working in obedience to God is giving God authority, and he is reflecting something. Isaiah walked naked through the streets to show the nakedness Jerusalem would endure in bondage. Jeremiah walked around with an Ox Yoke around his neck for similar reasons.

    What was going on in the world during the time of Abraham Isaac and Jacob and the establishment of the Nation of Israel? There was Moloch Worship which involved child sacrifice to a bull headed god. There was The Minotaur of Knossos whom Athens was sending virgins to. In the Principalities, there was something going on with a spirit or demon that revealed itself as a bull? In the New Testament we see that Jesus cast out spirits into pigs. (Matthew 8:31,32) We know that demons can posses animals. In understanding Exodus 21:28, there may have been something going on with possession, and something going on with a spirit that was represented with a bull. The man that follows direction God gave may be blessed. The man that doesn't may end up conflicted or possessed?

    Some modern day music artists who some would say are into the Occult or Satanism, in their videos, have men dressed with animal masks. Kesha in "Praying" and Taylor Swift "Look What You Made Me Do" are two most recent ones I am aware of at this time. The imagery of people wearing animal masks symbolizes some sort of possession?

    In general, this is how I have gone about finding and understanding Spiritual Law with God.

    Blood Covers Sins

    One Spiritual Law is Blood Covers Sins. Abel sacrifice lambs to God. In the Bible, Israel sacrificed animals to God. Why? Blood Covers Sins. Pagans also sacrifice animals to God. Why? Blood Covers Sins. Pagans also sacrificed human beings. Why? There is where Satan is. Satan is a liar and deceiver. The Spiritual Law is Blood Covers Sins. Is it just any blood? Given men are sacrificing each other, to some extent, would God be forced to honor something?

    The following is complex, and I don't know I have all the words to fully explain it, but I will show you what God has shown me:

    Abel sacrifices a lamb. Abel is the the First Murder. Son of Man is translated Son of Adam. Would Abel be Son of Man? The Lord is a Shepherd?

    Abraham is told to sacrifice his son Isaac. God is testing his heart. There was something evil going on in the world with human sacrifice. A Prophet or Man of God is heart powered. God test your heart. Abraham had to be willing to obey. In Abraham's obedience, something was set in the principalities.

    Jesus Christ is God's sacrificial lamb for your sins. Did you sacrifice a child to Moloch today or a friend to a Viking or Celtic Deity? Did the Aztecs raid your village for human sacrifices? Thank The Lord Jesus Christ, God's Sacrificial Lamb for your sins.
     
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    I have also figured this out for myself independently. Demons are like virus or bacteria. Ironically, they may be present in conditions conducive to growth of harmful bacteria.

    However paranormal manifestation isn't entirely demonic. It could also be an adaptive supernatural response by a woman's body to a foreign intruder. It is often manifested in times of misery.

    Men are much less like to experience such episodes. Children are much more likely. Testosterone seem to suppress supernatural abilities in the body this is one reason why men are more likely to be demon possessed. Demonic manifestation in men is much more subtle, very unnoticeable in most cases.
     
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    Women tend to mold to men. A man marries a virgin, and she may grow feeling for him over time, and change to be with him.

    The Soul is intrinsic. It is part of you. It is your character and experiences and decisions you have made. Spirits influence motivations. How is someone motived? Someone with the Spirit of God tends think about God and do God related activities a lot. Not to be seen doing it but because intrinsically, he is motived to. He loves God.

    Many people go to Church and they may have walls up. They have walls along their soul that they may have built to keep people out. They may have built walls up to God. Someone who accepts God's spirit lets down those walls.

    In the case of sexual assault......give the man was possessed....she may have let down her walls. It is a tough topic to discuss. Someone willingly choosing to go to a Temple of Baal to be a Prostitute is a lot like someone choosing to be in a Black Mass.
     
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    Didn’t humanity pass this stage when we figured things like rabies, Black Death and bacterial infections were not demons or the wrath of God but had perfectly logical explanations ?
     
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    The answer to your question is found below, but good men continue to disagree on what it means.


    Genesis 6:1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,

    2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.


    Verse 2 many interpret to mean Godly men procreated with ungodly women. To me that makes no sense .

    1. That kind of union will not produce giants

    2. From the description in the passage there seemed to be a severe shortage of Godly men except for Noah.

    3. God did not destroy a bunch of Godly men. The passage tells us all flesh had corrupted his way save Noah and his.



    3 And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

    4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

    5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

    6 And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.

    7 And the Lord said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.

    8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord.

    9 These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.

    10 And Noah begat three sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth.

    11 The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence.

    12 And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth.

    13 And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.
     
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    What happens behind closed doors? Do know? God knows. God is just.


    The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse have happened in various times throughout History. They are in the Book of Revelations. They are in the Old Testament.

     
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    I haven’t seen anything behind closed doors that involved sex demons. So people actually believe that is a thing ?
     
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    Until provoked by the word of God by from a born again Christian. Evil spirits were a problem to be dealt with when Jesus walked the earth, nothing has changed.
     
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    The Holy Ghost is a teacher and a councilor. Do you know? Knowing may be a source of pride or ego. Maybe you are afraid of the Truth. I don't know.

    God has been showing me a lot of what happens behind closed doors in an Ezekiel 8 type of way. It is hard to deal with and think about. I started labeling it all "Eyes Wide Shut." Man sits at a bar near Fraternity Row close to a University? He may hear things. Man pays attention to the news? God may show him some things.

    The Harvey Weinstein scandal is only the tip of the Iceberg. It runs a lot deeper, and it is not just celebrities.

    Bill Mayer made himself an enemy of Christianity and God. He goes to sex parties. The same ones Gwyneth Paltrow goes to? News Article: https://nypost.com/2017/02/01/inside-las-most-exclusive-sex-party/ What spirit is he of?

    The following is a news article for an Italian Priest who was working as a pimp and had mortal sins in a Church. ‘Unacceptable for a Christian’: Italian ‘orgy & pimping’ priest faces defrocking

    Many people would like to believe that those types of individuals were working alone and are just perverts. That may not be the case. There is cause and effect to the spiritual. Someone doing specific things, may be a sign that there is a Satanist around or that those individuals are Satanists and part of some sort of group or secret society.
     
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    Not only are demons involved in sexual deviancy but all types of evil. How can one believe the scriptures and not believe they are real? Jesus and the apostles dealt with them, they are still around.
     
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    Yes, I know these things can be rid off by using medicines.

    I'm speaking of something else. It is a pattern that is persistent if you carefully observe and study the nature of evil entities and their manifesation in our world.
     
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    You simply haven't encountered it. Demons tend to inhabit in places of misery like places where poverty and hopelessness exists like in 3rd world countries.

    If you go to missions-sending churches, you should hear such stories very often when missionaries are send off to 3rd world countries.
     
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    It is also my personal observation that women are more sensitive and more affected by spiritual phenomena.

    So it's not surprising that men would be in disbelief for lack of first hand experience.
     
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    Funny that all those demon possessions, sex demons and miracles always seem to happen in distant jungles 10000 miles away in societies riddled with superstition, ignorance and no education.

    Does that say more about demons or about people who believe in them ?
     
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    Some people are possessed and do not realize it. To not be possessed they need to want to change. They need to choose God. The "Enlightenment" in many ways, was really an endarkenment. Someone who is an enlightenment thinker, their religion, may be more an Ideology like Secular Humanism than Christianity.

    Jesus Christ cast out demons. There is reason behind how that works. You seem to believe in a distant god that doesn't interact with man. That is not God of the Bible.
     
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    Days of Noah

    Genesis 6

    3 Then the LORD said, “My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, because he also is flesh; nevertheless his days shall be one hundred and twenty years.”

    Note: After 120 years the LORD removed His Holy Spirit.

    Genesis 6

    5Then the LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great on the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

    Genesis 6

    …. Noah was a righteous man, blameless in his time; Noah walked with God.

    Genesis 6

    11 Now the earth was corrupt in the sight of God, and the earth was filled with violence. 12 God looked on the earth, and behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted their way upon the earth.

    Note: There were the righteous and there were the unrighteous. The Lord saved the righteous and destroyed the unrighteous. Very few were saved.

    1 Peter 3

    20 becausee they formerly did not obey, when God’s patience waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was being prepared, in which a few, that is, eight persons, were brought safely through water.

    Luke 17

    26 Just as it was in the days of Noah, so will it be in the days of the Son of Man. 27 They were eating and drinking and marrying and being given in marriage, until the day when Noah entered the ark, and the flood came and destroyed them all. 28 Likewise, just as it was in the days of Lot—they were eating and drinking, buying and selling, planting and building, 29 but on the day when Lot went out from Sodom, fire and sulfur rained from heaven and destroyed them all— 30 so will it be on the day when the Son of Man is revealed.

    The Righteous - 1 Thessalonians 4

    13 But we do not want you to be uninformed, brothers, about those who are asleep, that you may not grieve as others do who have no hope. 14 For since we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so, through Jesus, God will bring with him those who have fallen asleep. 15 For this we declare to you by a word from the Lord, that we who are alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord.

    After the third Angels message God removes His Holy Spirit

    Revelation 7:3

    "Do not harm the land or sea or trees until we have sealed the foreheads of the servants of our God."

    All the Righteous - living and those raised from the dead are taken up to be with the Lord.

    Note: The Living UnRighteous - As Many were unaware in the days of Noah. Many people will be unaware of what is happening, it is too late for them, and they will be destroyed.

    2 Thessalonians 1

    5 This is evidence of the righteous judgment of God, that you may be considered worthy of the kingdom of God, for which you are also suffering— 6since indeed God considers it just to repay with affliction those who afflict you, 7 and to grant relief to you who are afflicted as well as to us, when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with his mighty angels 8 in flaming fire, inflicting vengeance on those who do not know God and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. 9 They will suffer the punishment of eternal destruction, away from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might, 10 when he comes on that day to be glorified in his saints, and to be marveled at among all who have believed, because our testimony to you was believed.
     
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    Actually, these were first hand accounts of missionaries sent in these countries.

    Many of these missionaries were from USA, Canada, Australia and seen and experienced these supernatural phenomenon themselves while working in the missions field.

    I could assure you these Western missionaries did not have the mindset of the 3rd world citizens that they visited. Our pastor and his wife was one of these original missionaries and were highly educated themselves.
     
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    My friend do not fool yourself. One of the greatest deceptions satan has pulled off is that he is not real nor his evil kingdom.


    A local church near me has recently dealt with a demon possessed young girl, about 12. Just because you have not personally witnessed a manifestation of this evil only proves you have not witnessed it.


    Sorry this is not confined to 3rd world countries although they do have their share. If you ever look into the eyes of one truly possessed you will believe it.


    As I said before one cannot believe the Bible is true and not believe this evil exists .

     
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    Was there any supernatural aspects to it ? Levitation, flying objects, things suddenly composting , freezing temperatures inside ?

    Or normal megachurch style shouting, fainting getting miraculously cured ?
     
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