Israel-Hamas Thread II

[Hans Blaster]

And you don't care. Your on one side. Jews can die, but not those you prefer. It will happen again, no lives are being saved.

Wow! you made a leap there! Your bad assumption acrobatics are *quite* impressive. I said no such thing. I care about facts and you seem oblivious to them.

I am bothered that you:

1. Can't tell the difference between Gaza (where the war is happening and Hamas is in charge) and the West Bank (where the war *isn't* happening and Hamas isn't in charge.
2. Post unrelated pictures of children with toy guns as "evidence" that Hamas is using child soldiers. I don't know if they are or not using child soldiers, but pictures of kids with toy guns IS NOT PROOF OF THAT.

 

[ralliann]

Shame on anyone who does this with children. And shame on anyone who uses this to imply that children are then valid targets.

Just twisted. accusation
...I am implying These people don't care about their kids dieing. Do you get that, They prize death as martyrdom. This to them is like kids playing being knight with a sword, having valor. THEY PRIZE IT, TEACH THEIR KIDS TO PRIZE IT. It is their sickness, not mine, not Israel's.
AND IT IS THEIR VIDEO THEY MADE FOR DISPLAY. Is it you can't or won;t see that? They put this out. So go ahead, SHAME ON THEM for putting this out.

 

[ralliann]

Wow! you made a leap there! Your bad assumption acrobatics are *quite* impressive. I said no such thing. I care about facts and you seem oblivious to them.

I am bothered that you:

1. Can't tell the difference between Gaza (where the war is happening and Hamas is in charge) and the West Bank (where the war *isn't* happening and Hamas isn't in charge.
2. Post unrelated pictures of children with toy guns as "evidence" that Hamas is using child soldiers. I don't know if they are or not using child soldiers, but pictures of kids with toy guns IS NOT PROOF OF THAT.

What I mean't was you don't care about what they are doing. You are focused on other stuff..

 

[Bradskii]

Just twisted. accusation
...I am implying These people don't care about their kids dieing. Do you get that, They prize death as martyrdom. This like kids plaining being knight with a sword, having valor. THEY PRIZE IT, TEACH THEIR KIDS TO PRIZE IT. It is their sickness, not mine, not Israel's.
AND IT IS THEIR VIDEO THEY MADE FOR DISPLAY. Is it you can't or won;t see that? They put this out.

Then you'll be equally outraged at yet more pictures of children in the Middle East with guns, grenades, rocket launchers and machine guns.

As I said, shame on anyone who inflicts this on children. And it's doubly shameful to use images like this to insinuate that children are not the innocent victims of all this horror.

Disturbing photos show militarization of Israeli children

Pictures reveal the extent to which Israeli culture has been militarized and how Israeli children are not immune to this.

electronicintifada.net

 

[ralliann]

Then you'll be equally outraged at yet more pictures of children in the Middle East with guns, grenades, rocket launchers and machine guns.

As I said, shame on anyone who inflicts this on children. And it's doubly shameful to use images like this to insinuate that children are not the innocent victims of all this horror.

Yeah they put it out. When are you gonna judge that? Not a peep from you on that. They have no problen with it, why do you? I mean I didn't go over there and film it and put it out in pride. Who did that? Can you even bring yourself to say who did that?

 

[Bradskii]

Yeah they put it out. When are you gonna judge that? Not a peep from you on that. They have no problen with it, why do you? I mean I didn't go over there and film it and put it out in pride. Who did that? Can you even bring yourself to say who did that?

The Israelis. They took the pictures. They put them out. It says in the title of that link I posted. You didn't even have to open it. They are doing exactly what you said the Palestinians are doing. I've condemned both sides for doing it. You say it's wrong.

Let's hear your condemnation of Israel when they do it.

 

[Nithavela]

Yup, we should have thought of that, but didn't, it did and ignored it. Just where did we think they'd go?

You did catch the "nuclear weapons" part, didn't you?

 

[ralliann]

The Israelis. They took the pictures. They put them out. It says in the title of that link I posted. You didn't even have to open it. They are doing exactly what you said the Palestinians are doing. I've condemned both sides for doing it. You say it's wrong.

Let's hear your condemnation of Israel when they do it.

I srael reported on what was put on tik tok. A video made by a Palestinian daycare. And they are guilty of what?

 

[Aryeh Jay]

You did catch the "nuclear weapons" part, didn't you?

Well, Obama "Invaded" Pakistan and had the SEAL's kill some people that did some things on September 11th 2001.

 

[Bradskii]

They reported on what was put on tik tok. A video made by a Palestinain daycare. And they are guilty of what?

Good grief...

Look at the link I gave. I'll post it again so you don't have to scroll up: Disturbing photos show militarization of Israeli children

Read the title. Read the article. Look at the pictures. You condemn people for doing this. So condemn what you see in that link. Condemn the people who are doing it.

 

[ralliann]

Good grief...

Look at the link I gave. I'll post it again so you don't have to scroll up: Disturbing photos show militarization of Israeli children

Read the title. Read the article. Look at the pictures. You condemn people for doing this. So condemn what you see in that link. Condemn the people who are doing it.

So what are they guilty of?
What is it you say their motive in reporting what Palestinians published?
Here's what I say, because this is what I took in from it.
I saw what kind of people (cultural mindset) Israel is dealing with. Now when I say people and culture, I am speaking of Adults. Children are the product of a culture, they don't create it
Who these people are. They are violent, and they are not gonna stop. They will stop at nothing. They are sick with it.

So what did you see?

 

[ralliann]

Good grief...

Look at the link I gave. I'll post it again so you don't have to scroll up: Disturbing photos show militarization of Israeli children

Read the title. Read the article. Look at the pictures. You condemn people for doing this. So condemn what you see in that link. Condemn the people who are doing it.

Kind of like an 4th of july celebration to me. A yearly memorial, of a past event.

 

[Bradskii]

What is it you say their motive in reporting what Palestinians published?

To show that both sides are inculcating their children into violence. You showed kids playing with toy guns. I showed you Israeli kids playing with rocker launchers. Is there a difference? Well, between the video to which you linked at and the pictures I just showed you... none whatsoever. Both sides are to blame.

So what did you see?

I saw something that is rife in the Middle East. I see adults preparing their young children for war. It is positively obscene. And when I post the number of children being killed then you immediately, in the very next post, show pictures of small children playing with guns. Hey, look at this! Innocent children?

Disgusting.

And by making shameful insinuations that this young generation is part of the problem you are complicit in extending it to that next generation. And have we seen any thoughts for these deaths? Have we seen a smidgen of sympathy for young lives lost and grieving families? None. Absolutely none whatsoever.

 

[Bradskii]

Kind of like an 4th of july celebration to me. A yearly memorial, of a past event.

Comparing kids holding rocket launchers and crawling under wire and throwing grenades with the 4th of July? What an absolutely inane comment.

 

[Nithavela]

Well, Obama "Invaded" Pakistan and had the SEAL's kill some people that did some things on September 11th 2001.

I think such a surgical strike against a single target wouldn't have cut it against the taliban hiding among the population of western pakistan.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

I think such a surgical strike against a single target wouldn't have cut it against the taliban hiding among the population of western pakistan.

And yet that single target was the reason we invaded Afghanistan, because the Taliban wouldn't hand him over. Creating Democracy, building schools, liberating women, that was never part of the original plan. How quickly we lose sight of the goal and go on a spending spree.

 

[Nithavela]

And yet that single target was the reason we invaded Afghanistan, because the Taliban wouldn't hand him over. Creating Democracy, building schools, liberating women, that was never part of the original plan. How quickly we lose sight of the goal and go on a spending spree.

I know, right? Didn't even invade the correct country.

Luckily, the USA has learned and is now killing its enemies on foreign soil with impunity.

Assassination of Qasem Soleimani - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[o_mlly]

Just another implication that small children are somehow guilty and are valid targets.

We are still waiting for your definition of a "child". When you get around to posting that info, do let us know the why the size of the child makes a difference.

 

[o_mlly]

I care about facts ...

Kindly list your facts relating to this thread for us.

 

[essentialsaltes]

The claim is there aren't any and weren't any in Gaza before all this began. I don't know if that is true or not.

It is not true. Christians in Gaza are few and their numbers have been dwindling since the takeover by Hamas and resulting Israeli embargo.

In 2022, there were approximately 1,100 Christians in the Gaza Strip, down from 1,300 in 2013, [12] and from 5,000 in the mid-1990s.[70] Gaza's Christian community mostly lives within the city, especially in areas neighbouring the three main churches: Church of Saint Porphyrius, The Holy Family Catholic Parish in Zeitoun Street, and the Gaza Baptist Church, in addition to an Anglican chapel in the Al-Ahli Al-Arabi Arab Evangelical Hospital. Saint Porphyrius is an Orthodox Church that dates back to the 12th century.

Former Congressman Justin Amash is a Palestinian American and he shared that some of his Christian relatives were killed by an airstrike at Saint Porphyrius, where Gazan Christians were sheltering.