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Kindgdom Bible Studies Lambs Book of Life Part 1

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According to the Emphatic Diaglott the correct rendering of the latter part of this passage is: "The Book of the Life of the Lamb." Now, what is meant by this term – THE BOOK OF THE LIFE OF THE LAMB?
The wise man said, "...of the making of many books there is no end..." (Eccl. 12:12).

The book stores are filled to overflowing today with all types of books dealing with every aspect of earthly life. Even in the church world there are books setting forth every kind of viewpoint relating to God, the Bible, doctrine, Christian experience, and church order.

However the subject material of most of these books largely contains a message of religious tradition and spiritual death. But God is also producing a book – a book containing a message of life....

I agree Lamb and there are living epistles (even us) after a spiritual truth and also the making of many books after a carnal truth,

I loved the fact they burned all their books (which is in this context, curious arts) which are

1) busy about trifles and neglectful of important matters
a) esp. busy about other folks' affairs, a busybody
b) of things: impertinent and superfluous
1) of magic arts

And the outcome...

And so mightily grew the word of God

It speaks also of being a busybody in others mens things or even boasting in another mans lines of things.

Not mine to meddle in even after that respect

 

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That's naive, you are fooling yourself if you believe you can avoid all temptations that thousands of Christians before you had to endure.

Fooling myself believing I can avoid temptations? I dont think so lighthouse-hope where have I said anything about that?

You are fooling yourself if you aren't aware that you already read the Bible within a tradition.The doctrines that we hold as orthodox today took centuries to be established, including the very canon of the Bible. Excuse my skepticism, but I doubt the Holy Spirit now reveals those doctrines particularly to our generation.

Yeah and the prophets are by the scribes of old, so what?


Be it unto you according to how you believe then

 

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I agree Lamb and there are living epistles (even us) after a spiritual truth and also the making of many books after a carnal truth,

I loved the fact they burned all their books (which is in this context, curious arts) which are

1) busy about trifles and neglectful of important matters
a) esp. busy about other folks' affairs, a busybody
b) of things: impertinent and superfluous
1) of magic arts

And the outcome...

And so mightily grew the word of God

It speaks also of being a busybody in others mens things or even boasting in another mans lines of things.

Not mine to meddle in even after that respect

I very much agree with you. Anyone who is taking time away from working with the small group He/she is mentoring (like Christ did with the 12) to write a commentary or book is questionable. When I do read someone’s book I have questions they will not answer or cannot answer. They give one view and not all the alternative views. They mostly write to be published and that means writing to a buying audience. I will read what others think after I have developed my own ideas, so I will know how others think.
The process I use is as follows: I first do a personal evaluation of why I want to know something (it has to be to help someone with the spiritual growth and not for me to win an argument or have knowledge for academic reasons). I have to weigh the opportunities I have at the moment and chose the most beneficial for others (there is just not enough time to learn everything). I then pray, meditate, and make sure the Indwelling Holy Spirit is involved in my study. I study using multiple translations, lexicons, the internet, concordances, Greek/English dictionaries, and think about it a lot. I then review my ideas with like minded Christians and discuss the options. I usually have several alternative interpretations and choose the most likely, but present everything.
The fact that “Christianity” is not turning the world upside down right now and has split in every direction shows something is and was wrong.

 

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I very much agree with you. Anyone who is taking time away from working with the small group He/she is mentoring (like Christ did with the 12) to write a commentary or book is questionable. When I do read someone’s book I have questions they will not answer or cannot answer. They give one view and not all the alternative views. They mostly write to be published and that means writing to a buying audience. I will read what others think after I have developed my own ideas, so I will know how others think.
The process I use is as follows: I first do a personal evaluation of why I want to know something (it has to be to help someone with the spiritual growth and not for me to win an argument or have knowledge for academic reasons). I have to weigh the opportunities I have at the moment and chose the most beneficial for others (there is just not enough time to learn everything). I then pray, meditate, and make sure the Indwelling Holy Spirit is involved in my study. I study using multiple translations, lexicons, the internet, concordances, Greek/English dictionaries, and think about it a lot. I then review my ideas with like minded Christians and discuss the options. I usually have several alternative interpretations and choose the most likely, but present everything.
The fact that “Christianity” is not turning the world upside down right now and has split in every direction shows something is and was wrong.

Sure theres exercising ourselves unto discernment. It should be through our own studying (proving ourselves a workman unto God) rightly dividing the word of truth we discuss things among ourselves. Our reasoning out of the scriptures (of which) I would think we should have a great deal of repect.

The thing that always got to me is that He shows clearly in scripture blind men leading other blind, and if I KNOW "I am blind", wouldnt that make me blind and just plain stupid (being aware of this) to reach out and take anothers hand who professes they see? When thats what the blind who lead the blind actually say? Know what Im saying?

Isaiah 42:16 And I will bring the blind by a way that they knew not; I will lead them in paths that they have not known: I will make darkness light before them, and crooked things straight. These things will I do unto them, and not forsake them.

Exodus 4:11 And the LORD said unto him, Who hath made man's mouth? or who maketh the dumb, or deaf, or the seeing, or the blind? have not I the LORD?

John 9:19 And they asked them, saying, Is this your son, who ye say was born blind? how then doth he now see?

Duh!!

That word comes in so handy sometimes

 

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Sure theres exercising ourselves unto discernment. It should be through our own studying (proving ourselves a workman unto God) rightly dividing the word of truth we discuss things among ourselves. Our reasoning out of the scriptures (of which) I would think we should have a great deal of repect.

The thing that always got to me is that He shows clearly in scripture blind men leading other blind, and if I KNOW "I am blind", wouldnt that make me blind and just plain stupid (being aware of this) to reach out and take anothers hand who professes they see? When thats what the blind who lead the blind actually say? Know what Im saying?

Isaiah 42:16 And I will bring the blind by a way that they knew not; I will lead them in paths that they have not known: I will make darkness light before them, and crooked things straight. These things will I do unto them, and not forsake them.

Exodus 4:11 And the LORD said unto him, Who hath made man's mouth? or who maketh the dumb, or deaf, or the seeing, or the blind? have not I the LORD?

John 9:19 And they asked them, saying, Is this your son, who ye say was born blind? how then doth he now see?

Duh!!

That word comes in so handy sometimes

It's good to read the Word. Obviously. But interpreting on your own can be dangerous, as probably 8 times out of 10, it is the wrong interpretation. It's best to be safe and go by the interpretations already made by the Church Fathers who were taught by the Apostles, who handed it down from what Christ taught them through His traditions. I realize you do not want to do so as you think you cannot trust men. Men are only the deliverers and preservers of the already-correct interpretations by those that were taught by His Apostles. Any other tradition is the traditions of men warned about in the Bible.

P.S.: Don't mean to start any squabbling. Just felt I needed to say that. God be with you, FIF.

 

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Fooling myself believing I can avoid temptations? I dont think so lighthouse-hope where have I said anything about that?



Yeah and the prophets are by the scribes of old, so what?


Be it unto you according to how you believe then

OK, if you are a great prophet that needs nobody's help

 

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It's good to read the Word. Obviously. But interpreting on your own can be dangerous, as probably 8 times out of 10, it is the wrong interpretation. It's best to be safe and go by the interpretations already made by the Church Fathers who were taught by the Apostles, who handed it down from what Christ taught them through His traditions. I realize you do not want to do so as you think you cannot trust men. Men are only the deliverers and preservers of the already-correct interpretations by those that were taught by His Apostles. Any other tradition is the traditions of men warned about in the Bible.

P.S.: Don't mean to start any squabbling. Just felt I needed to say that. God be with you, FIF.

I know your not squabbling, I will take my chances with the Lord. Afterall He sent his apostles whom he sent which gospel we are saved and which was preached already and they preached Christ (the power of God) upon whom our faith is to stand.

He can preseve us, I'd sure hate to be apologizing for not trusting Him then for actually trusting Him

Psalm 40:4 Blessed is that man that maketh the LORD his trust, and respecteth not the proud, nor such as turn aside to lies.

Psalm 118:8 It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man.

Jerm 17:5 Thus saith the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD.

Psalm 9:10 And they that know thy name will put their trust in thee: for thou, LORD, hast not forsaken them that seek thee.

 

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OK, if you are a great prophet that needs nobody's help

And where did I say I was a prophet lighthouse_hope?

Just because you doubt him doesnt mean I do, I feel sorry you that find my confidence in God so annoying. Is there a specific reason why?

 

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And where did I say I was a prophet lighthouse_hope?

Just because you doubt him doesnt mean I do, I feel sorry you that find my confidence in God so annoying. Is there a specific reason why?

I don't know, I have trouble getting to know what you mean.

Do you have faith in God or in yourself? Because when you treat with contempt what other Christians have written in 2,000 years it raises a red flag.

 

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I don't know, I have trouble getting to know what you mean.

Do you have faith in God or in yourself? Because when you treat with contempt what other Christians have written in 2,000 years it raises a red flag.

I have absolutely no faith in myself lighthouse_hope its in God, its not myself or other men and I have no contempt whatsoever for the scriptures or what the apostles wrote, how can you conclude that?

 

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I have absolutely no faith in myself lighthouse_hope its in God, its not myself or other men and I have no contempt whatsoever for the scriptures or what the apostles wrote, how can you conclude that?

I meant the other Christians who wrote stuff. What about them?

 

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I meant the other Christians who wrote stuff. What about them?

I havent read every book every other christian has written. I have read a few, and there was some good things in them and some I found contradictory, they as men are subject to error I just put greater importance on Gods words.

I dont have the money to go out and buy every book that comes to the marketplace but I also dont have the inclination to search out every book that comes out either.

 

[lighthouse_hope]

I havent read every book every other christian has written. I have read a few, and there was some good things in them and some I found contradictory, they as men are subject to error I just put greater importance on Gods words.

I dont have the money to go out and buy every book that comes to the marketplace but I also dont have the inclination to search out every book that comes out either.

Then just choose some, read a few, and learn a bit or do you have all the time of the world to waste it with me when you could be reading C.S. Lewis or Silvanus? Why are you wasting your time with me? Read great Christian, heroes of faith and masters of Theology,

 

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Then just choose some, read a few, and learn a bit or do you have all the time of the world to waste it with me when you could be reading C.S. Lewis or Silvanus? Why are you wasting your time with me? Read great Christian, heroes of faith and masters of Theology,

I dont waste my time Im in the scriptures wherein there are plenty of men who are our examples are written of already.

You buy their books, I have the one I love

 

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I dont waste my time Im in the scriptures wherein there are plenty of men who are our examples are written of already.

You buy their books, I have the one I love

No, I'm not the Scriptures, and you are wasting your time with me when you could be reading somebody better than me, and for free. There are libraries, even online, people can lend you books

 

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No, I'm not the Scriptures, and you are wasting your time with me when you could be reading somebody better than me, and for free. There are libraries, even online, people can lend you books

I didnt say you were the scriptures, Im not the one confusing men with the scriptures are you?

I'd rather read the scriptures, is there a reason you are seeking to turn me from the words of scripture?

I dont want other books (thank you but no thank you) why do you feel the need to press upon me other books?

 

[lighthouse_hope]

I quit. Either you don't want to understand me or I can't make myself understood. Bye.

 

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I quit. Either you don't want to understand me or I can't make myself understood. Bye.

Understand you?

Well, you began with saying I think of myself as a great prophet putting things on me I do not and approached a conversation with me in "that way" (and elsewhere in the like) with no other obvious intent but to belittle my confidence in God, whereas in a child of God that should have rang out a huge amen in you, but quite the contrary it appears to get you a little angry, what are you seeking to get me to understand?

 

[lighthouse_hope]

Understand you?

Well, you began with saying I think of myself as a great prophet putting things on me I do not and approached a conversation with me in "that way" (and elsewhere in the like) with no other obvious intent but to belittle my confidence in God, whereas in a child of God that should have rang out a huge amen in you, but quite the contrary it appears to get you a little angry, what are you seeking to get me to understand?

OK. Goodbye.

 

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OK. Goodbye.

Bless you