Is Your Message Relevant?

[LittleLambofJesus]

Originally Posted by simonthezealot Whatever squint. Sounds like unity is a bad thing in your view...

Sorry. You get my 'cause squint to laugh out loud' award today.

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[Rhamiel]

"give me that old time religion, give that old time relgion, give me that, it's good enough for me"

haha, really, I think it is a good thing for Evangelicals to stick to there roots, it seems more real, more concrete, when they get all "post modern" it seems to fake, no offense to anyone who enjoys that style of church, I am not calling you fake.
really I think all Christianity should look at itself as more "counter-culture"
I think the Eastern Orthodox do a great job of that

 

[PujolsNonRoidHomerHitter]

I guess I am not really unerstanding what is it you are asking? LOL

I guess you're just not relevant Mama Z!

What I'm asking is kind of spinning a bit into a topic on sin, law, grace and love. The original question has to do with relevance among evangelicals today. Is it good to be 'hip' & 'trendy.' Is it helping?

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[LittleLambofJesus]

I guess you're just not relevant Mama Z!

What I'm asking is kind of spinning a bit into a topic on sin, law, grace and love. The original question has to do with relevance among evangelicals today. Is it good to be 'hip' & 'trendy.' Is it helping?

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I would say it is

http://christianforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=906
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[MamaZ]

I guess you're just not relevant Mama Z!

What I'm asking is kind of spinning a bit into a topic on sin, law, grace and love. The original question has to do with relevance among evangelicals today. Is it good to be 'hip' & 'trendy.' Is it helping?

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Hip and trendy in what way? Dress or doctrine?

 

[PujolsNonRoidHomerHitter]

While I do believe being; loving, nice, caring etc draw attention to the loving power and mercy of God in this manner doesn't hurt...It's not preached as the gospel message, rather the command to all believers in the fold ...

Are you kidding? Dude. John 3:16 -- "For God so loved the world that he gave . . ." The gospel, the more excellent way, the clarion call is one of love. Love God and love people. Not sin, sin, sin.

Happy you do...
How is that you preach sin?

Almost without fail, I call out to those who are struggling with sin, addictions, habits, failures in some way or another. I apply it to everyday, down to earth stuff. I don't beat them over the head with it or give them a hundred different scriptures on the heat of hell to make them feel like a spider dangling above a roaring fire. Last week we talked about the Nazirite vow and how long it's been since we've been passionate about God. That maybe something in our life owns us: a bad marriage, porn, gossip, etc; and it's going to take having a serious conversation with God and perhaps making a vow -- how bad do we want to be free? I preach on sin. Don't you worry your little zealous head.

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[Rhamiel]

I guess you're just not relevant Mama Z!

What I'm asking is kind of spinning a bit into a topic on sin, law, grace and love. The original question has to do with relevance among evangelicals today. Is it good to be 'hip' & 'trendy.' Is it helping?

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if you make the Church look like the World, why would anybody be interested in it? They already have the World, people are hungry for something else
no one talks about sin anymore, nothing is looked at as a sin, everything is just a choice, "violence is the only sin for the modern man" I forget who said it but they were right, and even then, there are sooooo many times we justify violence with dumbest and most selfish of things
trends come and go, if we try to look trendy we will only end up looking dumb, kids hate nothing more then the last trend lol it is always about what is new, by the time a "trend" would catch on in the Church it will already be passe
how do you stay on top of trends? be the trend setter

 

[MamaZ]

Are you kidding? Dude. John 3:16 -- "For God so loved the world that he gave . . ." The gospel, the more excellent way, the clarion call is one of love. Love God and love people. Not sin, sin, sin.



Almost without fail, I call out to those who are struggling with sin, addictions, habits, failures in some way or another. I apply it to everyday, down to earth stuff. I don't beat them over the head with it or give them a hundred different scriptures on the heat of hell to make them feel like a spider dangling above a roaring fire. Last week we talked about the Nazirite vow and how long it's been since we've been passionate about God. That maybe something in our life owns us: a bad marriage, porn, gossip, etc; and it's going to take having a serious conversation with God and perhaps making a vow -- how bad do we want to be free? I preach on sin. Don't you worry your little zealous head.

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Well we are as Seen and taught by the Apostles that sin is to be confronted and dealt with. Truth is to be applied to where sin is taking ahold.. What does one believe love to be?

 

[Rhamiel]

Almost without fail, I call out to those who are struggling with sin, addictions, habits, failures in some way or another. I apply it to everyday, down to earth stuff. I don't beat them over the head with it or give them a hundred different scriptures on the heat of hell to make them feel like a spider dangling above a roaring fire. Last week we talked about the Nazirite vow and how long it's been since we've been passionate about God. That maybe something in our life owns us: a bad marriage, porn, gossip, etc; and it's going to take having a serious conversation with God and perhaps making a vow -- how bad do we want to be free? I preach on sin. Don't you worry your little zealous head.

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wow, sounds like you have everything set brother, really, i like your style

 

[PujolsNonRoidHomerHitter]

I believe Romans 2 addresses this...right? isn't it written on our hearts..All peoples hearts?
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True. Very true. The law is written on their hearts. However, the issue at hand is how to bring that law out. How do we engage people in spiritual conversations that allows the Spirit of God to reveal what their heart knows? Do I go in quoting vs. about sin and depravity? Do I show them illustrations from their life? I choose the latter. I think that's a good way of describing the relevance of someone's message. It's not that I never quote scripture. There is a place for that. It just usually doesn't start with that.

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[LittleLambofJesus]

Hip and trendy in what way? Dress or doctrine?

I still have my garment of sackcloth hanging in the closet

Joel 1:13 Gird yourselves and lament ye priests, howl ye ministers of the altar, come lie all night in sackcloth ye ministers of my Elohim, for the meat offering and the drink offering is withholden from the house of your Elohim.

Reve 11:3 and I shall be giving the two witnesses of Me, and they shall be prophesying days, thousand, two hundred, sixty, having been about-cast sackcloths/ sakkouV <4526>

 

[PujolsNonRoidHomerHitter]

Man shall LIVE by EVERY WORD of God. Hard place to find.

Ah, indeed.

Don't the Jews do that also

They too will LIVE by EVERY WORD of God. Hard place to find lloj.

They should as JESUS came to them first

John 7:1 And was walking, the Jesus, after these in the Galilee for not He willed in the Judea to be walking, that the Judeans sought Him to kill. [Isaiah 9:1/Matt 4:14]

The Jews will have much to answer for.

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[MamaZ]

So if we are preaching the Gospel to any man and trying to lead them to Christ what is it that would be relevant to you? Would it be just telling them God loves them?

 

[MamaZ]

There are a remenant of Jews that will be saved for God has set His aproval on them.

 

[PujolsNonRoidHomerHitter]

oh I imagine a lot
I have only been to one Traditional Latin Mass, most of the people there were young couples in there mid to late 20's
lol no babyboomers though, just people in there 20's and people in there 80's

Hmm. Very interesting. Can you estimate the size of the crowd?

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[LittleLambofJesus]

There are a remenant of Jews that will be saved for God has set His aproval on them.

Yepperz........

Romans 9:27 "Isaiah yet cries-out over the Israel 'if-ever may be the Number of the sons of Israel as the Sand of the Sea, the Remnant shall be being Saved'". [Daniel 12:1/Romans 11:26]

 

[PujolsNonRoidHomerHitter]

"give me that old time religion, give that old time relgion, give me that, it's good enough for me"

haha, really, I think it is a good thing for Evangelicals to stick to there roots, it seems more real, more concrete, when they get all "post modern" it seems to fake, no offense to anyone who enjoys that style of church, I am not calling you fake.
really I think all Christianity should look at itself as more "counter-culture"
I think the Eastern Orthodox do a great job of that

Is it possible to counter culture yourself right out of an audience? I think it is. I think this is what we're seeing with traditional southern baptist churches. The ones still thriving are the ones who've adapted to the culture . . . not the ones still singing three hymns.

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[MamaZ]

Most people think they are pretty good.. But good to men and Good to God are much different..

 

[PujolsNonRoidHomerHitter]

I would say it is

http://christianforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=906
Charismatic Catholic Renewal

I think it has been very helpful.

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[PujolsNonRoidHomerHitter]

Hip and trendy in what way? Dress or doctrine?

Both.

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