Is water baptism a requirment to be saved

[Dr Bruce Atkinson]

And I will say it again. Those who believe will be water baptized. Those who don't believe won't. And some who don't believe will still be water baptized

But we are not to say who will ascend or descend. Romans 10 is sufficient. We are to preach faith in CHRIST JESUS

But The true confession upon the heart is what GOD sees or doesn't see...

Yes. And God Himself bestows the Holy Spirit, sometimes prior to the human act of water baptism:
"While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit fell upon all those who were listening to the message. 45 And all the circumcised believers who had come with Peter were amazed, because the gift of the Holy Spirit had been poured out upon the Gentiles also. 46 For they were hearing them speaking with tongues and exalting God. Then Peter answered, 47 “Surely no one can refuse the water for these to be baptized who have received the Holy Spirit just as we did, can he?” 48 And he ordered them to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Then they asked him to stay on for a few days," (Acts 10:44-48). It is obvious from the text that the Gentiles had already received the gift of the Holy Spirit and were speaking in tongues before they were baptized. God is sovereign and can do these things as He pleases; He is not bound by human sacramental rules. He also knows a person's heart, and not all who are baptized with water truly believe and thus are saved. Baptism is NOT a magic ritual that forces God to save someone.

 

[Apocolyptica]

It's absolutely NOT required to be saved. if you want to know what is required just look at the thief on the cross, he didn't do a thing other than believe because he had no time to do it..

 

[CWBBOARD]

This is my first post just thought i would put in a little input

We should all agree, that we have to be "IN CHRIST" to be saved...
and the question i ask to answer the question, is baptism necessary to be saved?
How do we get into Christ. The bible clearly states Baptism is what puts us into Christ.



As far as the thief on the cross, that is before The new Covenant, so in his case baptism wasn't necessary..... Now what God does is up to him as far as people who didnt have time to be baptized etc, but he is just. I know it would not be a chance i would want to gamble with.

 

[Butch5]

Is water baptism a requirment to be saved

God is able to save whoever He chooses to save. However, He has told us to be baptized. That's how one enters the New Covenant.

 

[Xavier Cane]

Is water baptism a requirements to be saved

Absolutely not. We are saved by grace through faith, and not of works. Now being justified by faith, we have peace with God through Christ. A better translation of Acts 2:38 would be "repent all of you and be baptized by the Authority of Jesus Christ because of the remission of sins. At the point of baptism, we are already saved. The water does not wash away sins as some think, only the Blood of Jesus does such.

Read Romans Chapter 6 carefully. It states that we are baptized into Christ. Not water. This teaching comes from the Oneness or Jesus only apostolic realm, as well as Catholic circles, but i is not a teaching of the bible. When Jesus said you must be born again...they key term is again. We are born with water at birth (this is not speaking of water baptism) we must be born again from above, by the Spirit, which is an operation of God according to the book of Colossians 2nd chapter.

 

[JESUS=G.O.A.T]

I take the position of no, and yes.

No, because "faith alone."

Yes, because if you claim to have saving faith and yet refuse or just "never get around" to being baptized then I start to have serious doubts about a persons salvation. I do recognize that if someone were to die before getting the opportunity to be baptized, and had previously expressed a desire to do so that God would not prevent that persons entry into heaven.

Tbh I agree with the top half of you have faith then you would trust the Bible when it says to be baptized and born again and do it.

 

[Xavier Cane]

This is my first post just thought i would put in a little input

We should all agree, that we have to be "IN CHRIST" to be saved...
and the question i ask to answer the question, is baptism necessary to be saved?
How do we get into Christ. The bible clearly states Baptism is what puts us into Christ.



As far as the thief on the cross, that is before The new Covenant, so in his case baptism wasn't necessary..... Now what God does is up to him as far as people who didn't have time to be baptized etc, but he is just. I know it would not be a chance i would want to gamble with.

Sir I would have to respectfully disagree. Water baptism does not place us into Christ, but rather our identification with Him in His death and Ressurection. Read carefully Colossians chapter 2, as well as Romans Chapter 6, we are baptized into Christ, not water, this is an operation of God. Though God desires for people to be baptized into water (symbolism of our identification with Christ), it does not at all wash away sins.

Here is the question, is water baptism a work of Grace or a work of man? Who is doing the baptizing into water? God or man? I have never seen God Baptize anyone in water - which is a work by man's hands. But I have known many who have been baptized into Christ (read Romans Chapter 6 carefully). The regeneration is baptism into Christ, and that is what saves a person, and nothing else. If baptism was a requirement for salvation, then we are indeed saved by our own works. And we can boast, because I have been baptized and you have not. What if a person has a condition which makes it impossible for a person to be immersed into water? This is not a fair salvation method. Every human person who ever lived can exhibit faith, which is by God the only requirement. But faith in itself is not passive, it is active.

God's only answer for sin is the cross of Christ. God's only answer for life and living is the Cross of Christ. Anything you need, can be found in the sacrifice of Jesus Christ, which restored to man everything that was lost in the fall.

 

[scottyp588]

Is water baptism a requirment to be saved

Is water baptism a requirment to be saved

Short answer...no.

Long answer...absolutely not.

 

[GodHelpMePlease]

God has expectations of His people. However, if you come to a point in time when you realize that He is God and you turn your heart to Him in submission to Him as Lord... and then die before you get into the water... are you saved? I think so... yet if you don't happen to die along the way, I think He expects you to get into the water.

It's clear how to put on Christ, the wedding garment necessary to be part of the Kingdom of God, the wedding. Baptism is how you put on Christ and live IN HIM. Galatians 3:22

Christ commanded us to be baptized; and, to not be baptized is to disobey God. People who say baptism is not necessary have been misled. Preachers who teach baptism is unnecessary are unsure. If they were sure, then they wouldn't have a baptismal in the church and would skip baptism themselves.

God's word and gospel is clear: believe, repent, and be baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins and you will know that you are saved. If you skipped what Jesus told you to do or didn't believe it, would you know? No, you wouldn't be sure and you would be disobedient to the Lord Jesus Christ.

 

[Xavier Cane]

It's clear how to put on Christ, the wedding garment necessary to be part of the Kingdom of God, the wedding. Baptism is how you put on Christ and live IN HIM. Galatians 3:22

Christ commanded us to be baptized; and, to not be baptized is to disobey God. People who say baptism is not necessary have been misled. Preachers who teach baptism is unnecessary are unsure. If they were sure, then they wouldn't have a baptismal in the church and would skip baptism themselves.

God's word and gospel is clear: believe, repent, and be baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins and you will know that you are saved. If you skipped what Jesus told you to do or didn't believe it, would you know? No, you wouldn't be sure and you would be disobedient to the Lord Jesus Christ.

If water baptism is a requirement to be saved, why then did the Spirit fill them on the day of Pentecost. There was no record of them being baptized. The Spirit would not fill an unredeemed heart. This is an apostolic teaching, which I have been a part of for a long time, until God Himself showed me how wrong it was, fully legalistic. No one fully obeys God, only Jesus did. Full obedience has never been required for salvation. Because only Jesus was perfect, which is why we must be baptized or immersed fully in Him. The redeemed soul always wants to obey God, but our conditions sometimes hinder our obedience. But that does not mean we are not saved, it means we are his workmanship in progress. Baptism is a form and symbolic but has no redeeming power what so ever. If man can be justified by the doing of the law (obedience) then Christ is dead in vain (he didn't have to die if this was possible).Praise God for His grace and truth.

 

[GodHelpMePlease]

If water baptism is a requirement to be saved, why then did the Spirit fill them on the day of Pentecost. There was no record of them being baptized. The Spirit would not fill an unredeemed heart. This is an apostolic teaching, which I have been a part of for a long time, until God Himself showed me how wrong it was, fully legalistic. No one fully obeys God, only Jesus did. Full obedience has never been required for salvation. Because only Jesus was perfect, which is why we must be baptized or immersed fully in Him. The redeemed soul always wants to obey God, but our conditions sometimes hinder our obedience. But that does not mean we are not saved, it means we are his workmanship in progress. Baptism is a form and symbolic but has no redeeming power what so ever. If man can be justified by the doing of the law (obedience) then Christ is dead in vain (he didn't have to die if this was possible).Praise God for His grace and truth.

There is a distinction between working in a futile attempt to earn your salvation and receiving it by being obedient to God. Baptism is not a work; it's simply obeying the gospel and the Lord's commandment. Obedience and faith are connected throughout the entire scriptures. Baptism, blood and water, is foreshadowed throughout the scriptures: house cleansed with blood and water from a bird, Moses through the water, Noah water, etc. I'm not parroting what I hear from preachers and man. I'm stating what I've learned from studying the word.

 

[Grafted In]

Would someone convince me that "Born of water",, spoken by Jesus to Nicodemus, was reference to natural birth and therefore not indicative of water baptism.
It was a couple or three months after I was born again that I was baptized in water.
The Precious Holy Spirit was already at work teaching me the things of Jesus Christ..

 

[marineimaging]

Is water baptism a requirment to be saved

According to our faith, church teaching, pastor, deacons, no. There was no record of Paul being baptized. Many of Christ's followers were not recorded as being baptized so if it were an imperative act then it would necessary to identify each baptisms date and time and location to insure that Satan couldn't diminish the words of the Gospel writers, right? This would also put salvation at the whim of weather so allowing there being water in the desert. I mean, those who traveled across the Middle Eastern deserts couldn't be saved unless they were dunked or until they got to a water source. So, if traveling across the desert and you decided to accept Jesus and you can't find a water source an adder bites you, there goes your soul! Straight to hell. Next, wouldn't the "law" if it were so also designate that it had to be fresh water worthy of cleansing the spirit? No salt water so there goes the beach or ocean. Pure water, that is not going to happen. No friend, baptism is a public admission of accepting Christ as Lord and Savior and like circumcision, it sets us apart from other religions in that we do something to be identified. It is a teaching that we should. But it would also limit God as to who he can save and not save and I don't see our Creator as being limited by the presence or absence of any physical substance. Salvation through Christ Jesus is not of this world, is not dictated by this world, and is not determined by any physical attribute of this world. That Jesus was baptized by John was in order for the prophesies to be fulfilled. Not for Christ to be saved from eternal hell.

 

[lben]

Yes, however that doesn't change scripture. As I pointed out, Jesus said we must be born again with water and spirit or we cannot enter the kingdom of heaven, point blank.

It is right there in black and white.

John 4:14 But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life.

Jesus was referring to the living water (Jesus).

 

[Wolf_Says]

John 4:14 But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life.

Jesus was referring to the living water (Jesus).

Yes, he was referring to living water there......your point being what exactly??

 

[EmethAlethia]

Is water baptism a requirment to be saved

I have done a rather thorough study on this topic should people be interested. The first part is the introduction to the issues related to the topic. These are as thorough a treatment of the topic as I could do, and I sought to be as objective as is possible as well. I honestly do not care what the truth is on the issue as long as I get to it. If you want to look at EVERYTHING that MIGHT apply to the topic at hand and OBJECTIVELY analyze all data, this should do it for you.

 

[lben]

The Bible clearly states that we are to be baptized and "born again" in water and spirit.

John 3:5 "Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God."

Sounds pretty clear to me.

In John 4:14 Jesus refers to himself as living water. "But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life."

 

[lben]

Yes, he was referring to living water there......your point being what exactly??

My point is that he is talking about living water (Jesus) not physical water. To be saved we have to accept Christ and the work that he did on our behalf.

A physical baptism is just an outward display of that faith, but it is not that faith.

 

[Wolf_Says]

My point is that he is talking about living water (Jesus) not physical water. To be saved we have to accept Christ and the work that he did on our behalf.

A physical baptism is just an outward display of that faith, but it is not that faith.

Then explain to me why all early Christians were baptized in the early Church? Certainly they, as they were closely related to the apostles, would have understood that it was not necessary if that was the case.

 

[DeepWater]

God is not bound by means, but He is merciful and nothing is impossible for God. However, baptism is the means God has instituted for our salvation.
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Actually, justification by faith is the means that God has instituted for our salvation.
So, if water saves, then everyone is saved when they take a shower or a bubble bath.
Any baby Christian, should understand that water baptism follows, conversion.
Being born again is the proof you are saved, and never a dunk in a pool or a sprinkle from a magic wand should be considered as redemption.
If you have a bible, then you'll notice that every person who was water baptized was converted first.
Its works like this.....BELIEVE and then be water baptized.
See it?
It the BELIEVING that God requires to redeem using The Blood of Jesus, and following that, you are to be baptized.
However, if you are water baptized but are not born again by the Spirit of God, then you are just as lost as you could possible be.