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Believe in the word and promises of GODI use to believe this as well......which is why i still dont judge and say i KNOW the way........cant give specific directions to a place I've never been... This is what blind leading blind means.
But this is a very dangerous belief...as there is no repentance in the grave. I will find heaven before my body Dies.....after that, there will be no Death for Me. Then i will come and show others the Way.......and of course will be despised and rejected by most.
Remember this teaching from apostle peter 1 pe 3:21: the water saved noah and his family, and in the like figure water now saves us in baptism....IN FIGURE....which is not a putting of the filfthyness of flesh (so thats not happening)....but jsut an answer to a good concience towards god.
So we can deinfitly know that the water baotism is a FIGURE and not a literal happening, the true repentance happens within, not in the water, and there is no salvation of sin in the water, its still just a figure of a burial and a resirection, the true burial and resurection happens in christ, and no water can add to taht.
BTW - there is no room in the narrow streets of Jerusalem's residences (where the upper room is located) for thousands to have heard Peter preach.
Maybe, maybe not. Spirit Upon includes all supernatural manifiestations like tongues and prophecy can happen to the unsaved. Remember even Saul when he was trying to kill David and Caiaphas when he was plotting to kill Jesus both prophesied.Those gentiles were saved before Peter water baptizes them, and this the LORD did as an example to us for doctrine, that it is His mercy that saves us by the washing of regeneration and renewal in the Holy Spirit and not by physical water baptisms.
I use to believe this as well......which is why i still dont judge and say i KNOW the way........cant give specific directions to a place I've never been... This is what blind leading blind means.
But this is a very dangerous belief...as there is no repentance in the grave. I will find heaven before my body Dies.....after that, there will be no Death for Me. Then i will come and show others the Way.......and of course will be despised and rejected by most.
A side issue.Peter was also taught by God something in Acts 10 about those God has cleansed he was not to call unclean. This was emphasized to him even 3 TIMES, so it was a highly important message designed to keep Peter on the straight and narrow path of truth.
Salvation is a process, it starts at baptism to be "born anew", and then we must continue that struggle all the way until our death, in hopes that we will be greeted into Heaven and live in paradise.
the amount of spelling errors....
It is both the water and the Spirit in baptism that makes us born again.
1 Peter 3:21-22 " Baptism, which corresponds to this, now saves you, not as a removal of dirt from the body but as an appeal to God for a clear conscience, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ, 22 who has gone into heaven and is at the right hand of God, with angels, authorities, and powers subject to him."
that is the full quote of your verse.
This doesn't detract from what Jesus spoke in John 3:5
Yep, He saved me.Once again, the rule that we Christians have been given by Jesus is to be baptized, otherwise we cannot enter the kingdom of God.
That doesn't mean that God has to obey this rule, and He can save anybody.
Personally, I find it incredibly frustrating that I cannot be baptized RIGHT NOW, while the iron is hot...Which is why baptism should be able to be available and offered with any sermon or preaching for example... For when such ones feel so convicted that they greatly desire to repent and they should be able to "seal the deal" right then and there with a baptism on the spot... (This is how John the Baptist did it.)
Then you would have an "act" to solidify and be able to remember that act as a very deeply meaningful act of repenting to you personally... Separating the two is probably why baptism and repentance seem to not be as successful as they used to be...
Especially with good, effective preaching, where people throw their hands up in the air, and say "What?, What are we to do...?" Then you can say "repent" and seal the deal with the act of being baptized, right now... While the iron is hot, so to speak...
Probably be much more effective than say, an atypical "altar call"...
God Bless!
Well, if that is the case, the peter was wrong, because cornelius house all received the one spirit without being baptized by any apostle.
Of course, to deny this you then have to construct a doctrine about the spirit upon you and within you to deny that this happenes, and not just rely on the "one baptism" and the "one spirit" and the only promise that the spirit would be poured out on all flesh.... and then that understanding of conrelius house only makes sense to a person that belives in such a doctrine,.
Peter received the Spirit within in John 20.22. He recieved it UPON in Acts 2.
BTW - there is no room in the narrow streets of Jerusalem's residences (where the upper room is located) for thousands to have heard Peter preach.
That's pretty much salvation by works. Seems what you're saying is that if a person works hard enough, ends up being a good enough Christians, he might just be saved in the end. Those who believe that are basically under the curse of the law. "All who rely on observing the law are under a curse, for it is written: "Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law." Gal 3:10 They view salvation as not attainable in this life, and thus the "hope" they have is simply wishful thinking, a hope of which is based on faith in themselves rather than putting their trust in Christ to take care of one's justification.
In contrast note Jesus said, "I tell you the truth, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be condemned; he has crossed over from death to life." John 5:24
Believe him or not.
Baptism should be able to be spontaneous, not having to be scheduled
The only reason we are not to consider another man's works as a show of his or her faith, is, because, one, we cannot judge or determine anything at all by another man's works as far as his faith goes, only God and that individual is the only one(s) who know(s) and can, we cannot...Enough with the "believe him or not." at the very end of your posts. It sounds very demanding.
Our salvation is a process, period. Through faith and works. Why do you hate the term works?
James 2:14-26 clearly states that our faith needs works, otherwise it is dead.
We are shown apart by ours works Matthew 25:31-26
We also need faith, otherwise our works are dead, Hebrews 11:6.
No. Stop misquoting scripture.They were told to wait in the upper room for the promise of THE FATHER
Enough with the "believe him or not." at the very end of your posts. It sounds very demanding.
Our salvation is a process, period. Through faith and works. Why do you hate the term works?
James 2:14-26 clearly states that our faith needs works, otherwise it is dead.
We are shown apart by ours works Matthew 25:31-26
We also need faith, otherwise our works are dead, Hebrews 11:6.
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