Is this heresy?

[TheBibleIsTruth]

The Holy Bible does teach that God is Essentially One, "The LORD our God, the LORD is one" (Deut. 6:4).

We also know that the Hebrew for God, Elohim, is masculine, plural. Some say this simply means, "plural of majesty", as a a king of queen would use the "royal we". I disagree, because the language in verses like Genesis 1:26, etc, clearly shows that this is not the case, and that a Plurality of "Persons" is meant. Further, we also know from the Bible, that the Father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit a equally called "God", and "Yahweh". there are also passages like Matthew 28:19, where the Greek construction shows that the Three mentioned, cannot be "one and the same Person", as a clear "distinction" is made by the use of the Greek definite article with each noun. "THE Father...THE Son...THE Holy Spirit". Yet these Three are said to have One Name, which is singular in the Greek. The Name of God here is no doubt "Yahweh". I say all of this, to show that there is a clear distinction in the "Persons" within the Godhead.

Paul says that we are "temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you" (1 Corinthians 3:16). And also, "the temple of the Holy Spirit" (1 Corinthians 6:19). because the Holy Spirit, Who is God, dwells in all believers, we can be said to be "the temple of the Holy Spirit", and the "temple of God", both being 100% correct. In neither passage, does "God" refer to the Father of Jesus Christ, but the Holy Spirit.

Since we also know from the examples that you have given, that the "indwelling" of God, includes all Three of the Persons. So, to refer to "the indwelling Spirit", as being "the indwelling Son", does not mean that both are one and the same Person, but the fact that they both indwell the believer, as does the Father.

Hence we have Jesus raise Himself from the dead, "“Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.” (John 2:19). And the Father raised Jesus from the dead, "Paul, an apostle—not from men nor through man, but through Jesus Christ and God the Father, who raised him from the dead" (Galatians 1:1) . And, then we have the Holy Spirit Who raised up Jesus from the dead, "If the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, he who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through his Spirit who dwells in you" (Romans 8:11).

One God, in Three "distinct", but not "separate" Persons, indwell all believers. The Three are one, as 1 John 5:7 tells us.

 

[Daniel Martinovich]

THe bible says that the Lord is the Spirit. 2 Corinthians 3:17 Whats that mean?

Isaiah says that a child will be born, and His name will be called eternal Father and mighty God. Isaiah 9:6 WHo is that child and who is the eternal Father?

Why would that be heresy? It's in the Bible. The real problem is a bunch of folk thinking they have everything all figured out when they don't. What that all amounts to is that scripture must fit into what they believe. It either disproves their hypothesis, that they consider fundamental truth. Or it will stretch them and force them to think things through to a more accurate understanding.

Let me just point a few things out.
Hebrews 1:13 But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make your enemies your footstool? 14 Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation? .
Angels have form. Heads, eye's mouths, legs, arms, etc etc. When seen they are often mistaken as men. Yet the Bible says materially, they are spirits.
John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
God sitting on the throne has the form of man. Yet materially he is a spirit.
Hebrews 12:23......and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
Human beings materially are spirits. We just live inside a flesh and blood body right now.
Hebrews 10:55 Wherefore when he comes into the world, he says, Sacrifice and offering you did not want, but a body have you prepared me:
Jesus is materially a Spirit, who came to live in a flesh and blood body.
John 20:12 And saw two angels in white sitting, the one at the head, and the other at the feet, where the body of Jesus had lain. 13 And they say to her, Woman, why do you weep? She says to them, Because they have taken away my Lord, and I know not where they have laid him. 14 And when she had thus said, she turned herself back, and saw Jesus standing, and knew not that it was Jesus. 15 Jesus says unto her, Woman, why do you weep? who are you seeking? .... 16 Jesus said to her, Mary. She turned herself, and said unto him, Rabbi; which is to say, Master. 17 Jesus says unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your father.
1st Peter 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but made alive by the Spirit: 19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
Jesus's flesh and blood body was raised from the dead. He, Jesus, who is materially a spirit preached to human spirits in prison while his flesh and blood body lay dead. He, Jesus who is materially a spirit entered back into that flesh and blood body and raised it from the dead. However:
Matthew 22: 23-32. The same day the Sadducees came to him (Jesus), which say that there is no resurrection, and asked him………… 29. Jesus answered and said to them, You err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God. 30. For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven. 31. But as touching the resurrection of the dead, have you not read that which was spoken to you by God, saying, 32. I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living 33. And when the multitude heard this, they were astonished at his doctrine.
Jesus astonished the people by using the words "the resurrection" to describe the simple life after death scenario where the human who is materially a spirit with legs, arms head eyes etc etc steps out of their dead flesh and blood body and continues to live in heaven or hell.
Acts 1:9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.
Jesus was raptured.
1st Co 15:51 Behold, I show you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, (die) but we shall all be changed,
Scientifically speaking, I have no idea what happens to the flesh and blood body when it is raptured. I think it is safe to assume though that it ceases to exist and what is left is our spiritual body that has physical form.
1st Co 15:44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
Looking at that scripture in question. With these scriptures in mind rather than the doctrines of men. How could that be looked on as heresy?

 

[klutedavid]

There is nothing that says in the Greek grammar of the construction, that the words, "ὁ δὲ κύριος τὸ πνεῦμά ἐστιν", cannot be understood as "Now the Spirit is the Lord". It is to be noted from the context, that the subject is the Holy Spirit, and not the Father or the Lord Jesus Christ. In verse 18 Paul says, "καθάπερ ἀπὸ κυρίου πνεύματος", which is, "even as from the Lord the Spirit", which is a clear reference to the Deity of the Holy Spirit.

The distinction (not separation) of the Holy Spirit from the Father and Jesus, is very clear in the Bible. In Isaiah 48:16, the Speaker is YHWH (see ver, 12, etc), which is the Lord Jesus Christ. He says, "The Lord God hath sent Me and His Spirit". So, here we have the Speaker, the Lord Jesus Christ, Who is also YHWH, being sent by "YHWH", as is the Holy Spirit. Clearly there is a distinction between them. The New Testament clearly says that God the Father sent the Lord Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit.

In John 16:28, Jesus says, "I came forth from the Father". The English word "from" is the Greek preposition "παρά", which literally means "from beside", which shows that the Father and Jesus Christ are distinct Persons. They cannot be one and the same Person. Also, when speaking of the Coming of the Holy Spirit, Jesus says, "But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father" (John 15:26). Here, like in 16:28, the Greek "παρά", in relation to the Father, which shows "distinction". Note here that Jesus Himself is also the Sender of the Holy Spirit, while in John 14:26, it is the Father Who is the Sender. Thus showing the Deity of both Persons. Jesus also says that the Holy Spirit is "Another Comforter" (John 14:16), and uses the Greek "ἄλλος", which denotes, "Another like Myself", again showing a "distinction" in Persons. In the classic text often misunderstood by some, John 10:30, Jesus says, "ἐγὼ καὶ ὁ πατὴρ ἕν ἐσμεν", "I and the Father, one We are". by "ἕν" (one), Jesus is showing the "essential unity" of Himself and the Father, and by "ἐσμεν", (We are), their "distinction", because the word is masculine and plural in number, which cannot refer to "One Person".

In Isaiah 9:6, Jesus is called, "‛ad 'âb", commonly translated as "The everlasting Father". Some see in this that Jesus Christ is also God the Father, and argue that the Two are One Person. The Hebrew "'âb" (father), also has the meaning, "originator, protector, ruler, chief" (see Brown, Driver, Briggs, Hebrew-English Lexicon). Interestingly, the Greek version of the Old Testament, known as the Septuagint, renders the Hebrew, "pateer tou mellontos aioonos", literally, "Father of the coming age", which is how the Latin Vulgate has it, "the Father of the world to come".

There is nothing in Isaiah 9:6 to even suggest that Jesus is the "same Person", as God the Father.

Very well written, you definitely have done some research on this topic.

 

[W2L]

I'm a little confused here.

Why would anyone say that scriptures themselves are heresy?

I haven't looked at the thread you are talking about. But I suspect that the charge of heresy was concerning your expressed opinion about them.

Exactly what is your opinion about them since you brought it up.

After you give us your opinion - perhaps someone here will call you a heretic as well.

Care to take a crack at it?

I Never Stated my opinion. So the heresy charge was uncalled for i think. My opinion is that those scriptures i posted in the OP mean exactly what they say. The Lord is the Spirit, and the son will be called eternal father. Is that heresy?

 

[W2L]

It is abundantly clear in Scripture that Jesus is the Son, not the Father, He is distinct from the Father. However the concept of fatherhood can be used in other ways. Jesus is not the Father, but He is the King Messiah. Treating the king as a kind of father of the nation is old and common. Also, remember, that Abraham is also called "father" in Scripture, spiritual fatherhood is not itself necessarily a reference to the Divine Paternity of God the Father. There are spiritual fathers, such as Abraham and the patriarchs, or the Apostles and fathers of the Church (St. Paul himself speaks of himself as a spiritual father to St. Timothy, calling Timothy "my son"). Thus there are different ways of being "father". Jesus Christ is called aviad (father into perpetuity, forever-father, etc) in His kingly, messianic capacity; not in regard to His Divine Hypostasis/Person.

As for the Lord is the Spirit, it means nothing other than that the Holy Spirit is Lord. It does not mean that the Holy Spirit is the Lord Jesus, it simply means that the Holy Spirit is Himself Lord, even as the Father is Lord, and the Son is Lord. We confess, "We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord and giver of life"

-CryptoLutheran

Jesus is a Spirit now, isnt He?

 

[W2L]

Why would that be heresy? It's in the Bible. The real problem is a bunch of folk thinking they have everything all figured out when they don't. What that all amounts to is that scripture must fit into what they believe. It either disproves their hypothesis, that they consider fundamental truth. Or it will stretch them and force them to think things through to a more accurate understanding.

Let me just point a few things out.
Hebrews 1:13 But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make your enemies your footstool? 14 Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation? .
Angels have form. Heads, eye's mouths, legs, arms, etc etc. When seen they are often mistaken as men. Yet the Bible says materially, they are spirits.
John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
God sitting on the throne has the form of man. Yet materially he is a spirit.
Hebrews 12:23......and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
Human beings materially are spirits. We just live inside a flesh and blood body right now.
Hebrews 10:55 Wherefore when he comes into the world, he says, Sacrifice and offering you did not want, but a body have you prepared me:
Jesus is materially a Spirit, who came to live in a flesh and blood body.
John 20:12 And saw two angels in white sitting, the one at the head, and the other at the feet, where the body of Jesus had lain. 13 And they say to her, Woman, why do you weep? She says to them, Because they have taken away my Lord, and I know not where they have laid him. 14 And when she had thus said, she turned herself back, and saw Jesus standing, and knew not that it was Jesus. 15 Jesus says unto her, Woman, why do you weep? who are you seeking? .... 16 Jesus said to her, Mary. She turned herself, and said unto him, Rabbi; which is to say, Master. 17 Jesus says unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your father.
1st Peter 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but made alive by the Spirit: 19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
Jesus's flesh and blood body was raised from the dead. He, Jesus, who is materially a spirit preached to human spirits in prison while his flesh and blood body lay dead. He, Jesus who is materially a spirit entered back into that flesh and blood body and raised it from the dead. However:
Matthew 22: 23-32. The same day the Sadducees came to him (Jesus), which say that there is no resurrection, and asked him………… 29. Jesus answered and said to them, You err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God. 30. For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven. 31. But as touching the resurrection of the dead, have you not read that which was spoken to you by God, saying, 32. I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living 33. And when the multitude heard this, they were astonished at his doctrine.
Jesus astonished the people by using the words "the resurrection" to describe the simple life after death scenario where the human who is materially a spirit with legs, arms head eyes etc etc steps out of their dead flesh and blood body and continues to live in heaven or hell.
Acts 1:9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.
Jesus was raptured.
1st Co 15:51 Behold, I show you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, (die) but we shall all be changed,
Scientifically speaking, I have no idea what happens to the flesh and blood body when it is raptured. I think it is safe to assume though that it ceases to exist and what is left is our spiritual body that has physical form.
1st Co 15:44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
Looking at that scripture in question. With these scriptures in mind rather than the doctrines of men. How could that be looked on as heresy?

The scriptures seem to contradict the creed.

 

[hedrick]

The scriptures seem to contradict the creed.

No they don't. The Creed is from hundreds of years later, and is the result of clarifying and adopting consistent terminology. It's well-known the Scripture uses terms more informally. E.g. Paul tends to speak of God in contexts where today we'd say the Father. As I noted in my previous post, Paul consistently distinguishes between the Son and the Spirit. 2 Corinthians 3:17 uses spirit in a different context. Isaiah 9:6 wasn't speaking of the Trinity either. Remember that it's in the OT. It was describing an ideal king. It properly refers to Jesus, but Isaiah was speaking about a divine king as father in the same sense that we call Washington the father of his country. You can see that he was thinking of a king from 9:7. (Jesus was, of course, king, though he was other things as well.)

You can't just take individual sentences out of the Bible, ignore their contexts, and compare them to creeds written centuries later that used specialized terminology.

 

[ViaCrucis]

Jesus is a Spirit now, isnt He?

No. He's the Same as when He showed Himself after the resurrection, when He said, "See My hands and feet, it is I Myself. Touch me and see, for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as I have." He's our Lord Jesus Christ, the God-Man.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[mmksparbud]

Jesus is a Spirit now, isnt He?

Jesus retains His humanity through eternity. He keeps his scars--they are a reminder of the price He paid for us. He is as we will be after the resurrection. He ate and drank and so will we.
Joh 20:27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.
Luk 24:39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
Luk 24:41 And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat?
Luk 24:42 And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb.
Luk 24:43 And he took it, and did eat before them.

 

[W2L]

No. He's the Same as when He showed Himself after the resurrection, when He said, "See My hands and feet, it is I Myself. Touch me and see, for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as I have." He's our Lord Jesus Christ, the God-Man.

-CryptoLutheran

Whats this scripture mean?

2 Corinthians 5:16
16 Therefore from now on we recognize no one [a]according to the flesh; even though we have known Christ according to the flesh, yet now we know Him in this way no longer.

 

[hedrick]

Jesus is a Spirit now, isnt He?

Not according to Paul. Paul sees him as the first-fruits of the resurrection, i.e. as having a transformed body of the kind we will have after we are resurrected.

 

[W2L]

No they don't. The Creed is from hundreds of years later, and is the result of clarifying and adopting consistent terminology. It's well-known the Scripture uses terms more informally. E.g. Paul tends to speak of God in contexts where today we'd say the Father. As I noted in my previous post, Paul consistently distinguishes between the Son and the Spirit. 2 Corinthians 3:17 uses spirit in a different context. Isaiah 9:6 wasn't speaking of the Trinity either. Remember that it's in the OT. It was describing an ideal king. It properly refers to Jesus, but Isaiah was speaking about a divine king as father in the same sense that we call Washington the father of his country. You can see that he was thinking of a king from 9:7. (Jesus was, of course, king, though he was other things as well.)

You can't just take individual sentences out of the Bible, ignore their contexts, and compare them to creeds written centuries later that used specialized terminology.

Thank you.

 

[hedrick]

Whats this scripture mean?

2 Corinthians 5:16
16 Therefore from now on we recognize no one [a]according to the flesh; even though we have known Christ according to the flesh, yet now we know Him in this way no longer.

This is referring to our point of view as being spiritual rather than carnal. NRSV translates, correctly I think, "From now on, therefore, we regard no one from a human point of view;"

 

[ViaCrucis]

Whats this scripture mean?

2 Corinthians 5:16
16 Therefore from now on we recognize no one [a]according to the flesh; even though we have known Christ according to the flesh, yet now we know Him in this way no longer.

Context:

"Therefore, knowing the fear of the Lord, we persuade others. But what we are is known to God, and I hope it is known also to your conscience. We are not commending ourselves to you again but giving you cause to boast about us, so that you may be able to answer those who boast about outward appearance and not about what is in the heart. For if we are beside ourselves, it is for God; if we are in our right mind, it is for you. For the love of Christ controls us, because we have concluded this: that one has died for all, therefore all have died; and he died for all, that those who live might no longer live for themselves but for him who for their sake died and was raised.

From now on, therefore, we regard no one according to the flesh. Even though we once regarded Christ according to the flesh, we regard him thus no longer. Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away; behold, the new has come. All this is from God, who through Christ reconciled us to himself and gave us the ministry of reconciliation; that is, in Christ God was reconciling the world to himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and entrusting to us the message of reconciliation. Therefore, we are ambassadors for Christ, God making his appeal through us. We implore you on behalf of Christ, be reconciled to God. For our sake he made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God."

We do not regard Christ according to the flesh, because we are in Him, as new creations, having received life from God in Him.

"The flesh" is our flesh. Which is Paul's shorthand throughout His writings to describe our present, mortal, sinful condition, to describe the old man which has died, having been crucified with Christ, and buried with Him.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[W2L]

Not according to Paul. Paul sees him as the first-fruits of the resurrection, i.e. as having a transformed body of the kind we will have after we are resurrected.

Exactly, i was going to mention that next. Jesus is the first fruits of the resurrection. Flesh and blood cant inherit the kingdom, so it must be a sipirit that does. Look here, there is a spiritual body and a natural fleshy one.


1 Corinthians 15:4 it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body.

50 Now I say this, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; nor does [p]the perishable inherit [q]the imperishable.

 

[W2L]

This is referring to our point of view as being spiritual rather than carnal. NRSV translates, correctly I think, "From now on, therefore, we regard no one from a human point of view;"

Hm, i dont know, doesnt seem quite right to me.

 

[W2L]

No they don't. The Creed is from hundreds of years later, and is the result of clarifying and adopting consistent terminology. It's well-known the Scripture uses terms more informally. E.g. Paul tends to speak of God in contexts where today we'd say the Father. As I noted in my previous post, Paul consistently distinguishes between the Son and the Spirit. 2 Corinthians 3:17 uses spirit in a different context. Isaiah 9:6 wasn't speaking of the Trinity either. Remember that it's in the OT. It was describing an ideal king. It properly refers to Jesus, but Isaiah was speaking about a divine king as father in the same sense that we call Washington the father of his country. You can see that he was thinking of a king from 9:7. (Jesus was, of course, king, though he was other things as well.)

You can't just take individual sentences out of the Bible, ignore their contexts, and compare them to creeds written centuries later that used specialized terminology.

Is it possible (gulp) that the creed is not fully correct?

 

[W2L]

Jesus retains His humanity through eternity. He keeps his scars--they are a reminder of the price He paid for us. He is as we will be after the resurrection. He ate and drank and so will we.
Joh 20:27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.
Luk 24:39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
Luk 24:41 And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat?
Luk 24:42 And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb.
Luk 24:43 And he took it, and did eat before them.

That was the Lord after the resurrection but before he ascended to heaven? If so then He had not yet been turned into a spirit body. Correct?

 

[W2L]

Has the creed ever been revised?

 

[ViaCrucis]

Exactly, i was going to mention that next. Jesus is the first fruits of the resurrection. Flesh and blood cant inherit the kingdom, so it must be a sipirit that does. Look here, there is a spiritual body and a natural fleshy one.


1 Corinthians 15:4 it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body.

50 Now I say this, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; nor does [p]the perishable inherit [q]the imperishable.

1 Corinthians 15:44

σπείρεται σῶμα ψυχικόν ἐγείρεται σῶμα πνευματικόν ἔστιν σῶμα ψυχικόν καὶ ἔστιν σῶμα πνευματικόν

σῶμα ψυχικόν (soma psuchikon), literally "body soulish". The Greek word psuchikos is the adjective form of the word psuche ("soul"). It is unfortunate that it has been often translated as "natural" since that has given rise to a great deal of confusion, though one can likely get an idea of what the translators were trying to capture. English doesn't have a word that directly translates psuchikos. Saying this word means "soulish" isn't unique to me, it's the fairly standard way exegetes and biblical scholars attempt to render the more clear meaning of the text--unfortunately "soulish" isn't an actual word in English, it's a made up word to try and bring clarity to what the Greek word means.

σῶμα πνευματικόν (soma pneumatikon), literally "body spiritual".

Paul is not contrasting the physical with the spiritual; he is contrasting the "soulish" with the "spiritual". This isn't the first time Paul uses this contrast, elsewhere he speaks of "soulish" people, contrasting them with "spiritual" people--most translations render it as "natural" or "carnal". But when Paul says that we were formally "soulish" but now we are "spiritual", he is not talking about going from physical to spiritual, but from being a people ruled by our animal lusts and appetites to having received the Holy Spirit. For Paul what makes someone or something "spiritual" is the Holy Spirit. And the same is true here.

The body, presently, is mortal, corruptible (meaning it decays), and we are ruled by our "soul", by our animal appetites, the lusts of the flesh, etc. We are "soulish" creatures, sinful, acting according to our belly, the sort of life we have now is animal life. But Paul looks forward to the resurrection as when the body is raised up and transformed, no longer being subject to the mortality, corruptibility, and futility of sin and death, no longer driven by the baser animal desire--but instead quickened, made alive, by the power of the Holy Spirit.

Elsewhere the Apostle says, "If the Spirit of Him who raised Christ from the dead is also in you, then He who raised Christ from the dead will give life to your mortal bodies." (Romans 8:11).

It is the Spirit who quickens, the Spirit who makes alive. That's why in the Creed we call Him "Life-Giver"

It is precisely our glorification by the power of the Spirit in the resurrection that the Apostle is looking forward to, when we are raised up we are not merely returned to a state of mortal corruption laboring under sin and death again; when we are raised up we are raised up to immortality and incorruption, to the eternal, never-ending life that is to come. It is an entirely new way to be alive, it's the way Jesus is alive, fully alive in the body, but without decay; for Christ conquered death, and at the resurrection death shall be fully destroyed, since death shall be swallowed up in victory: "Where O Death is your sting? Where O Death is your victory?" At the resurrection Christ will transform our lowly bodies of humiliation to be like His glorified body (Philippians 3:21).

-CryptoLutheran