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Please describe this evidence.
Of course, back to your tactic of switching the burden of proof rather than give evidence to back your own claims.
You have claimed that there is evidence that space time existed prior to the Big Bang, as of yet you have not provided such evidence.
What you have presented does not provide that space time existed prior to the big bang or what could have interacted with it.
Of course, back to your tactic of switching the burden of proof rather than give evidence to back your own claims. You have claimed that there is evidence that space time existed prior to the Big Bang, as of yet you have not provided such evidence.
What you have presented does not provide that space time existed prior to the big bang or what could have interacted with it.
Yep, so typical. What else can one expect when one promotes the idea that nothing is something?
"It has been well documented that the earliest evidence in our universe shows that there was no matter, no space, no time and no energy and more importantly no laws of physics."--Oncedeceived
Please support this claim.
I presented evidence for my claims. Now it is your turn.
I did provide it. That evidence is the isotropy of the CMB. Your counterclaim is that there is well documented evidence that shows the opposite. I am asking to see that evidence.
You have not even dealt with what I presented. Perhaps you should do that first.
The evidence is the isotropy of the CMB which evidences interaction of energy prior to the initial inflation of the universe. It is analogous to water in your bathtub. When you first pour the bath the water is hot. If you go away and come back the next day the water in the bathtub is the same temperature as the bathroom. That is because there was time for the water to interact with the rest of the bathroom and reach equilibrium. The same for our universe. The temperature is nearly the same across the early universe which is evidence for interaction prior to the Big Bang.
No you have not.
Provide the evidence that the inflation that occurred did so prior to the Big Bang.
You've made a claim about a claim.
Provide the evidence that the inflation or at least the gravitational waves giving evidence for inflation that occurred did so prior to the Big Bang.
Yes, I have.
"The evidence is the isotropy of the CMB which evidences interaction of energy prior to the initial inflation of the universe. It is analogous to water in your bathtub. When you first pour the bath the water is hot. If you go away and come back the next day the water in the bathtub is the same temperature as the bathroom. That is because there was time for the water to interact with the rest of the bathroom and reach equilibrium. The same for our universe. The temperature is nearly the same across the early universe which is evidence for interaction prior to the Big Bang."
""The evidence is the isotropy of the CMB which evidences interaction of energy prior to the initial inflation of the universe. It is analogous to water in your bathtub. When you first pour the bath the water is hot. If you go away and come back the next day the water in the bathtub is the same temperature as the bathroom. That is because there was time for the water to interact with the rest of the bathroom and reach equilibrium. The same for our universe. The temperature is nearly the same across the early universe which is evidence for interaction prior to the Big Bang."
The isotropy of the CMB is a measurement, not a claim.
"The evidence is the isotropy of the CMB which evidences interaction of energy prior to the initial inflation of the universe. It is analogous to water in your bathtub. When you first pour the bath the water is hot. If you go away and come back the next day the water in the bathtub is the same temperature as the bathroom. That is because there was time for the water to interact with the rest of the bathroom and reach equilibrium. The same for our universe. The temperature is nearly the same across the early universe which is evidence for interaction prior to the Big Bang.""
Yep, so typical. What else can one expect when one promotes the idea that nothing is something?
You are wrong to claim the evidence is the isotropy of the CMB,
One solution was inflation and that is what the gravitational waves found supported inflation but that evidence in no way shows interaction prior to the Big Bang.
Rather Atypical for someone who demands that only that evidence that is specifically for something rather than supportive of it is the only evidence that can be presented as evidence.
Why?
Why doesn't it?
However, there is nothing in this phenomena that gives evidence of interaction prior to the Big Bang.
Why not?
[it is spelled isotropy]
Why would it?
I looked ad that is how I spelled it.
"The evidence is the isotropy of the CMB which evidences interaction of energy prior to the initial inflation of the universe. It is analogous to water in your bathtub. When you first pour the bath the water is hot. If you go away and come back the next day the water in the bathtub is the same temperature as the bathroom. That is because there was time for the water to interact with the rest of the bathroom and reach equilibrium. The same for our universe. The temperature is nearly the same across the early universe which is evidence for interaction prior to the Big Bang."
You spelled it "isotrophy" in a previous post. Just making sure we are talking about the same thing.
Repeating a statement that has no evidence of spacetime being present prior to the Big Bang is not going to substantiate the claim. For a any quantum field theoretical vacuum state to exist there must be a quantum field. How would these fields exist and what evidence is there for them? It matters not what arrangement a field might take, it is an absence of fields at all.
You know, chances are we will never know the specifics of what was and wasn't prior to the Big Bang, right? The nature of the event makes it difficult.
Your point? Loudmouth is claiming that there is evidence that something was nothing and was prior to the Big Bang. I am waiting for that evidence.
The fact of the matter is, there isn't enough evidence to be conclusive on the matter to any detailed extent. However, if you consider the Big Bang to be the origin of time and physics as we know it, I don't know if the concept of "before" can actually apply
You are missing the point here Sarah. Loudmouth is claiming just that. I want the evidence to support his claim.
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