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Is there any going back once you've turned away from God?

Asar'el said:
My appology :) If my confusion prevents you from understanding the point of my message, I can post it again with the correct gender :)

But I think you know what I am saying.
No, I understand it, I just don't agree with it.

I don't understand how you can say such a statement is prophetic, when he said that EVERYONE who turns their back on Christianity at once can never come back, when people who have posted to the contrary.

Maybe that wasn't clear in my first post - but he did end up saying everyone who truly turns away from Christianity can't come back.
 
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butxifxnot said:
be careful about this. If this were held as true, then my sister would have been declared a Christian while she was smoking, drinking, poor, and many other evil things.
Since when is being poor considered evil? :D
 
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fragile one said:
No, I understand it, I just don't agree with it.

I don't understand how you can say such a statement is prophetic, when he said that EVERYONE who turns their back on Christianity at once can never come back, when people who have posted to the contrary.

Maybe that wasn't clear in my first post - but he did end up saying everyone who truly turns away from Christianity can't come back.
Perhaps you misunderstand my point; I was not saying what the assistant pastor said is correct in an absolute sense - I maintain that it may, indeed, have been given him to say that to you of God, and if you continue as you indicate (thinking you have time to return as you please, later), you are likely to prove his 'prophecy' correct, in regard to your particular situation.

What he said to you may well be your test, to see how sincere you are about returning - and if your "I'm not in a hurry..." response is it, my fears for you are well grounded.
 
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The Parable of the Lost Son

11Jesus continued: "There was a man who had two sons. 12The younger one said to his father, 'Father, give me my share of the estate.' So he divided his property between them.
13"Not long after that, the younger son got together all he had, set off for a distant country and there squandered his wealth in wild living. 14After he had spent everything, there was a severe famine in that whole country, and he began to be in need. 15So he went and hired himself out to a citizen of that country, who sent him to his fields to feed pigs. 16He longed to fill his stomach with the pods that the pigs were eating, but no one gave him anything.
17"When he came to his senses, he said, 'How many of my father's hired men have food to spare, and here I am starving to death! 18I will set out and go back to my father and say to him: Father, I have sinned against heaven and against you. 19I am no longer worthy to be called your son; make me like one of your hired men.' 20So he got up and went to his father.
"But while he was still a long way off, his father saw him and was filled with compassion for him; he ran to his son, threw his arms around him and kissed him.
21"The son said to him, 'Father, I have sinned against heaven and against you. I am no longer worthy to be called your son.[2] '
22"But the father said to his servants, 'Quick! Bring the best robe and put it on him. Put a ring on his finger and sandals on his feet. 23Bring the fattened calf and kill it. Let's have a feast and celebrate. 24For this son of mine was dead and is alive again; he was lost and is found.' So they began to celebrate.
25"Meanwhile, the older son was in the field. When he came near the house, he heard music and dancing. 26So he called one of the servants and asked him what was going on. 27'Your brother has come,' he replied, 'and your father has killed the fattened calf because he has him back safe and sound.'
28"The older brother became angry and refused to go in. So his father went out and pleaded with him. 29But he answered his father, 'Look! All these years I've been slaving for you and never disobeyed your orders. Yet you never gave me even a young goat so I could celebrate with my friends. 30But when this son of yours who has squandered your property with prostitutes comes home, you kill the fattened calf for him!'
31" 'My son,' the father said, 'you are always with me, and everything I have is yours. 32But we had to celebrate and be glad, because this brother of yours was dead and is alive again; he was lost and is found.' "

i believe that the father is god and the son is some one like you and i believe no matter what youve done he'll forgive you



i'm sure this will help a little bit.:angel:

god bless you
begoten son lover_1
 
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Dera fragile one,

The new pastor that told you that you turned your back on Jesus, that God had now turned his back on you is wrong. That is not biblical at all. I know what verses he is talking about. Peter denied Christ, but later Christ personally forgave him. Paul killed the early Christians, therefore he was a serial killer. Yet, God used him to turn multitudes to Himself.

God gives people chance after chance to beocme right with him. There are those who would be so rebellious against God that the time comes when their heart is like stone in their chests'. That is when the final judgement of God's holy Law falls upon them and they perish.

God wishes for no one to perish and will not let you go without a fight, but he will let someone go their own way if they are stubborn and rebellious about having it their way. God wishes for you not to perish and will not let you go with out a fight, yet you will be allowed to go your own way to believe the empty lies of the world that are contrary to His Word.

Let me ask you, do you consider yourself a good person? Let's see if that is true:
Have you ever told a lie? It only takes one lie to make a person a liar.
Hvae you ever stolen anything, even if its small? Regardless of an items worth, taking any object is stealing, and that makes you a thief.
Have you ever used God's name as a cuss word? Who hasn't; aking God's name in bad ways is called blasphemy.
Jesus said, "You know it has been said of old 'do not commit adultery'. But I say to you whoever looks upon a woman to lust after her has committed adultery with her already with her in his heart." Have you ever looked at some one with lust? When you do you commit adultery of the heart.

By this examination, it can be determined that your a lying, theiving, blasphemous, adulterer at heart.

If God were to judge you by the Ten Commandments, would you be innocent or guilty of breaking them? It is obvious that all people have broken the Ten Commandments.
So, by that standard of judgement, would you go to Heaven or to Hell?

The Bible says in Revelation that all liars, theives, adulterers, murderers, etc. (transgressors of the law) have their part in the lake of fire.

The question is, do you know what God did so you wouldn't have to go to Hell? He sent His Son, born of a woman, to die on the cross for your sins.
Sin means breaking God's perfect Law. He suffered a most horrible and excruciating death just for you, so that you could have the opportunity to be made right with God. Jesus voluntarily took your place because of his love for you.

Jesus said this, " For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
19 And this is the condemnation, that light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20 For every one that does evil hates the light, neither comes to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
21 But he that does truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. (John 3:16-21)

Jesus said that if you trust in him that he will save you. From what? From death, hell, the grave, and God's judgement against unrepentent sinners. He then turns around and gives you eternal life if you would repentent of your wrongdoing of breaking the Law and sinning against God Himself.

A person is condemned already (John 3:18) if they are not born again (this is a spiritual birth). Therefore, you need to repent (confess sins and turn from your wicked ways) and trust Christ as your personal Savior and Lord.
 
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Dera fragile one,

The new pastor that told you that you turned your back on Jesus, that God had now turned his back on you is wrong. That is not biblical at all. I know what verses he is talking about. Peter denied Christ, but later Christ personally forgave him. Paul killed the early Christians, therefore he was a serial killer. Yet, God used him to turn multitudes to Himself.

God gives people chance after chance to beocme right with him. There are those who would be so rebellious against God that the time comes when their heart is like stone in their chests'. That is when the final judgement of God's holy Law falls upon them and they perish.

God wishes for no one to perish and will not let you go without a fight, but he will let someone go their own way if they are stubborn and rebellious about having it their way. God wishes for you not to perish and will not let you go with out a fight, yet you will be allowed to go your own way to believe the empty lies of the world that are contrary to His Word.

Let me ask you, do you consider yourself a good person? Let's see if that is true:
Have you ever told a lie? It only takes one lie to make a person a liar.
Hvae you ever stolen anything, even if its small? Regardless of an items worth, taking any object is stealing, and that makes you a thief.
Have you ever used God's name as a cuss word? Who hasn't; aking God's name in bad ways is called blasphemy.
Jesus said, "You know it has been said of old 'do not commit adultery'. But I say to you whoever looks upon a woman to lust after her has committed adultery with her already with her in his heart." Have you ever looked at some one with lust? When you do you commit adultery of the heart.

By this examination, it can be determined that your a lying, theiving, blasphemous, adulterer at heart.

If God were to judge you by the Ten Commandments, would you be innocent or guilty of breaking them? It is obvious that all people have broken the Ten Commandments.
So, by that standard of judgement, would you go to Heaven or to Hell?

The Bible says in Revelation that all liars, theives, adulterers, murderers, etc. (transgressors of the law) have their part in the lake of fire.

The question is, do you know what God did so you wouldn't have to go to Hell? He sent His Son, born of a woman, to die on the cross for your sins.
Sin means breaking God's perfect Law. He suffered a most horrible and excruciating death just for you, so that you could have the opportunity to be made right with God. Jesus voluntarily took your place because of his love for you.

Jesus said this, " For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
19 And this is the condemnation, that light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20 For every one that does evil hates the light, neither comes to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
21 But he that does truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. (John 3:16-21)

Jesus said that if you trust in him that he will save you. From what? From death, hell, the grave, and God's judgement against unrepentent sinners. He then turns around and gives you eternal life if you would repentent of your wrongdoing of breaking the Law and sinning against God Himself.

A person is condemned already (John 3:18) if they are not born again (John 3). Therefore, you need to repent (confess sins and turn from your wicked ways) and trust Christ as your personal Savior and Lord.
 
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No the LORD loves you to much. In the Bible in Romans 3:38-39 it says:

FOR I AM PERSUADED, THAT NEITHER DEATH, NOR LIFE, NOR ANGELS, NOR PRINCIPALITIES, NOR POWERS, NOR THINGS PRESENT, NOR THINGS TO COME, NOR HEIGHT, NOR DEPTH, NOR ANY OTHER CREATURE, SHALL BE ABLE TO SEPARATE US FROM THE LOVE OF GOD, WHICH IS IN CHRIST JESUS OUR LORD
I pray that the LORD will just open up doors for you and that He would just show Himself strong in your life. God Bless-All4THALORD
 
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READ THIS

Hbr 6:4 For [it is] impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,


Hbr 6:5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,


Hbr 6:6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put [him] to an open shame.

as long as you have not:
been once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost
And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come

then it means your not damned.

Plus you said your church last time was stiff and unkind and they preached false doctrines... so many damnations which are unrealistic

Also you should renounce Paganism and totally hate the whole thing. Not the people mind you but the whole principality.


You must know that if such is the case as that associaye pastor described then you will see so many people damned in this world.

Nono thats not the purpose of God.

The above verse is saying that those who have really known him and his word well(enlightened) and did miracles and mighty wonders and signs in his name(tasted the power of the world to come), received the Holy Spirit and all the wonderful stuff God gives you when you draw close to him, and then they leave and forsake God, then its impossible to renew them unto repentance.


Most of all just talk to God and know that he is there and he hears. He knows you better than you yourself do and when u cry out and seek him and ask him he will aid you. You gotta trust him.

Its not as though your talking to some wooden statue or to the wall and waiting for responses.

Just ask the Lord and he will reply.

Rom 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Call upon him and ask him to clarify matters with you and to Uproot any lie in your life.

You must know that if your a father and you son calls out to you will you not respond?

Similarly Jesus will respond to all who call upon him and his Love is much greater than any humanly way of explaining or comprehending and so he will respond.

Seek him with an honest heart and just keep praying and asking for his assistance.
Dont ever imagine him to be a powerless God or a God who doesnt understand.
Hes all powerful and most of all he UNDERSTANDS your situation.


Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ,
Jeriel
 
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Fragile One,

Read 2nd Kings chapter 21 on the deep dark sins of Manasseh. This chapter just goes to show that no matter how deep the stain God really can make those sins go away.

Isaiah 1:18--- "Come now,let us argue this out," says the Lord. No matter how deep the stain of your sins I can remove it. I can make you as clean as freshly fallen snow. Even if you are stained as red as crimson, I can make you as white as wool.
And what about the theif hanging beside Jesus in which Jesus forgave just before His death? People can backslide and I firmly believe that salvation can be lost BUT God said this even in the old testement before Jesus came now imagine what is taken away now! God did not say "I can only remove your sins if you have not backsliden" He said NO MATTER WHAT!:clap:

IN LOVE
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Maybe this has already been said, I haven't read throught the whole thread. . . But what about the story of the Prodigal Son? I believe that those of us who do fall away and come back are welcomed with open arms! Don't let someone tell you that you are beyond hope. Have faith, pray, repent, etc. . .ask God for a sign that he is with you.

Although I regret A LOT of the choices I made the past 7 years, I am grateful for the experiences. Reconciling my life with God has been the best decision of my life. I'm not perfect, but I will never let myself fall away again!

I will say a prayer for you.:prayer:
 
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Hi!
Just a word or two of encouragement to you. I got saved when I was 12 years old. After four years I too fell into a different crowd and fell away. I ran from God for 30 years. Satan had told me that I had commited the unpardonable sin and even when I wanted to come back to Christ I thought I was hopelessly lost. Then Jesus showed me that I HAD NOT commited the unpardonable sin and that He was waiting with open arms. I recommited my life to Him and I am soooooo happy now. I love walking with the Lord and wouldn't give up my life with Him for anything! The Bible says that Jesus will NEVER leave you or forsake you. Just ask for His forgiveness and ask Him to come back into your life. He will!!!! Just like that and He won't ever leave you. You can walk away from Him but He will NEVER walk away from you. I'll be praying for you.
 
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I'm not going to comment about losing your salvation. Pretty much everyone here has worded what I would say... in a much more... uhm "pretty" way. I'm not sure about the so-called Christians at the church you use to attend...

... but I worship a God not of 2nd chances... but of 3rd, 4th, and 5th chances. Whatever it takes to get to know Him.

... I worship a God that hikes up His robe, and chases after me.

The secret, in understanding God's character (I can't stress this enough) is that... I don't believe God looks at where we're at, he looks at where we're going, and how much we're searching. To me, that is the most encouraging thing in the world- that God understands our limitations.

We are merely called to try; and nothing more. God takes care of the rest.

fragile one said:
I'm in no hurry to reconvert right now.

Of course. From what it sounds, you are very hurt by the current church. Which I do not blame you. You look around, and see so-called Christians being jerks? Pshaw. It happens. Satan will try to convince you and whisper in your ear... tellin you things like, "You don't want to be a Christian, look at their double-standards, look how hypocritical they are!"

But what you may not realize, is thats human nature; and not based on any one religion.

fragile one said:
I don't want to be like most of the Christians I have met. I'm a lover, not a hater. I don't want to be a racist. I don't want to hate people who disagree with me. I don't want to hate people because they aren't Christians. That's just not me. I know not all Christians are like that, but that was the type of church I grew up in, and that was the type of Christian group they had at university, and I don't want to be like that at all. So...I'll wait and test the waters a bit before I make any major decisions

I don't blame you. That was the biggest stumbling block for me, when becoming a Christian. BUT the encouraging thing is: you DONT HAVE to be like those people. If you take a close look at those so-called christians, I can promise you they lead very "fake" lives, very "lukewarm", and very un-loving.

So yeah: dont rush into the whole thing. Just make sure while you're not rushing into the whole Christian thing- be sure to NEVER STOP SEARCHING! I cannot stress this enough. This may not sound very mainstream to the other Christians here, but go ahead and read OTHER scriptures! Read the quar'an, the vedas, even the Bible!

I can say this with confidence, because I know if you search hard enough, God WILL lead you to Christ: I am 100% positive of this. I can say this with confidence, because... prior to me becoming a Christian- I searched EVERYWHERE. I kept feeling a calling to Christ, but I did not want to be associated with mainstream Christianity. I searched high and low, everywhere BUT the Christian God. Luckily for me, God always ran towards me- no matter how much I tried to avoid Him.

The church discouraging you?
Perhaps God is calling you to change that. With the kind of determination you have, it is no doubt you are gifted with leadership qualities.

And this above all, during your search- never stop praying. Always do your best to talk to God. Don't be fake with God, either: not everything has to be all flowery. If you're upset at God, LET HIM KNOW! He's big enough to handle it. If you're sad about what the church had told you, go ahead and yell at God for that! If you're feeling sad, ask to be comforted! You may not have Jesus in your heart, but I can promise God loves the fact that you are at least attemptin something (which, is something a LOT of Christians I know SHOULD be doing) Always keep in mind that God came down to heal, not to give "super Christians" high fives.

Most importantly: if your search ends with Christ: it is ESSENTIAL you are to be REAL about your relationship with God through Christ. Love like no other. If Christ is within you, ya will be able to love to the greatest extent possible. You'll look back and be amazed: at far along God has carried you- in such a short period of time.

You are called to merely love God; and love one another.
Never stop searching, never stop loving.
Dont listen to so-called christians

You were bought with a price
Merely because our God through Jesus Christ wanted to get to know ya better :)
 
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Fragile one, I am glad you want to receive Jesus into your life at some point in your life. I have an advise for you. Be true to God because God sees everything. Like Leo, I search. I come from a non Christian family, and felt that the Christian God was the real God. But because I was a chinese with chinese pride within me, I hated all thing foreign and consider Jesus and Christianity to be a foreign thing. And also, I refuse to listen to what Christians told me about their God because I thought every people will only say the good things of their gods. Muslims will say allah is God, and so forth. I want to search for myself, SEE for myself, find for myself who is the True God. So I pray.
I say, "Oh God, I believe you exist. I know you hear me. I just do not know where you are from. Christians, Taoists, Buddhists all want to tell me you come from their religions, but they are all bias and I cannot believe their words. Please show yourself to me. I will just call you, God, since I do not know your name, I will just call you God.
" So I pray often for this God I worship whom I call the "unknown" God to make himself known to me.
I never believe in following the religions of my parents, which is Taoism. I am only interested in following the truth, and truth never comes second hand. Because second hand truth is not reliable. I say, "If I can see who God is for just one minute and know where he comes from, I will die without any form of regret." My hunger for God is very big, and yet I want to find him myself and not rely on third party to tell me about him.
My refusal to listen to anyone talks about God gets me into troubles. I mess with the occults and that eventually one day gets me into troubles. Meanwhile, my heart is suddenly changing. More and more, I am sure the "unknown" God I am praying to must be the Christian God and I do not know why there is this change in my heart. This change continues until I become SURE that the unknown God is the Christian God, but because of fear of my parents, I refuse to convert. One day, I was forced into conversion to Christianity by a friend. But has no true relationship with God.
I accept God the Father but not Jesus. I accept him verbally but hate him from within, thinking he is a hypocrite, and jealous of his relationship with God the Father. Meanwhile, I continue to play with the occult. One day, the devil comes to me and deceives me that he is god and I believe him. I became mad in the eyes of those who love me, and was even warded in the hospital for one week for mental instability. But God sends me nightmares that tells me that the one who speaks to me is not God but the devil. I become frightened and distrust the devil who lies to me that he is Jesus and gets me to believe I am a prophet of God and even wants me to start a new religion and writes the third testament of the bible.
I go to one Christian forum and tells the people of my confusion as to if the one who speaks inside my head is God or the devil. They prayed for me and a small miracle happened there. One person was posting a thread of advise to me, but her post disappeared and she wondered if she should post again. But the Holy Spirit told her to wait. Two other people came later on and posted in the forum, and their two separate posts combined to form the exact message of her disappeared post, almost word for word. I learnt of this miracle and along with my dream began to reflect on what God is trying to tell me through these activities.
Finally, after much struggles, I was led by the Holy Spirit to renounce the devil. I renounce the devil and break my connection with him. But he continues to harrass me and refuses to let me go. I was disturbed and distressed because I felt like a fool to believe him. I cried and cried when no one was looking and the devil kept telling me that I was going to hell. And I rebuked him again and again, without feeling convinced that God had forgiven me. I prayed through the sinners' prayers again and again.
That incidence humbled me. My pride in myself as a human being was gone, and I began to take God and Jesus more seriously. After struggling with fear of forever being condemned to hell, I took my salvation more seriously and treasured it. The initial period was that of doubt of whether God truly forgave me. But after attending churches more eagerly and taking God's words more seriously, I was slowly convinced of God's love for me. I started to rebuke the devil more confidently, trusting that God loves me or he will not take the pain of sending me the nightmares and using a small forum miracle to turn me from my sinful way. If God wants me to go to hell, he will not undeceive me with regard to the true nature of the voice. The devil eventually flees from messing my mind, and I grow to know the way of God more and more. I renounce all past connections I have with the occults and now live on fire for God.
I am thankful to God that he warmly receives me to be his child even though I fail him again and again. I give up all my chinese pride and chinese way of thinking and now is determined to pray for the salvation of my entire family, nation and for the people who do not know God from every corner of the world. I also forgive all the people who have hurted me in the past, including my grandmother who favors boy over girl according to chinese customs, and I hope for her to be saved too, before she dies. I forgive all the people who are cruel to me and I lose interest in pursuing my own dreams and my own goals and ambitions, but I just want to serve God and to serve men and to serve to reconcile God and men through Jesus.
So, fragile one, if you want to come to God, do not let anything hinders you. Do not let your church or the people around you stop you. Do not let anyone stop you from being a Christian. Jesus loves you and will receive you the moment you receive him. You will not stop loving people the moment you become a Christian. In fact, it is when you truly become a Christian, that you learn how to truly love people.
In the past, I hate men with a passion. I love people, but I also hate them. I am good to people, but I hate their manners and ways. But after I know Jesus as not just God but as also a friend, I start to love people. Start to love my grandmother who is so bad to me, and start to love all the other people around me. Jesus is able to make you love people more and not less. Being a Christian by opening your heart to Jesus will only lead you to love people more than ever. If you hate people rather than love them after you become a Christian, then you have not truly received Jesus into your heart for you do not understand what he means by, "Love one another even as I have loved you." Look, Jesus does not just call us to love one another. He calls us to love one another as he has loved us. And how great is Jesus' love for us? It is so great that he is even willing to die on the cross for us. Therefore, to love another person as much as Jesus has loved us will mean that we will be willing to die for that person if necessary. How great is this love!!! And being a Christian will teach you to love even people who are bad to you and to pray for them. Being a Christian, fragile one, teaches you not to hate but to love.
The Christians in your church do not fully know what Jesus comes to do if they hate everyone who does not know him. Jesus comes not to condemn but to save. Look, he goes and feast with sinners and tax collectors, the dirt of society because he has not come to call the righteous but to call the sinners.
And we all sin against Jesus. The important thing is that we recognise that we sin against Jesus, repent and turn to him for help. And receive him into our lives to be our friend, and not just our God. Fragile one, Jesus loves you. Do not resist him. Invite him into your life, into your heart today and you will witness his love overflowing from within you to reach out to the people around you. This is what happens to someone like me.

Yours,
Jasmine
 
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The question can only be answered by how far a person really has gone.....Peter fell , he denied that he even knew Jesus , but God restored him.

However , Judas fell and openly denounced Jesus by taking sides with the unbeliever and fighting God!
there is no way back from true Apostacy.But if you are questioning this , it is a strong indication that if you have fallen God can still raise you up. :wave:
 
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First off, I haven't had time to read all of the posts here yet, but I really feel strongly that I need to respond.

Of course you can come back. My story is similar to yours, in that I was saved when I was 8 years old. At 16, I ran from God -- and I ran for 23 years. While I did not become a pagan, or join any other religion, I led a hedonistic lifestyle. During that time, God did not give up on me. He kept sending people to witness to me. He kept putting people in my path to try to get me to come back. He kept putting me into situations to try to get me to come back. Finally, I listened, and quit running. He accepted me back, as if I had never left. He will accept you back as well. That pastor will be held accountable for his answer one day.

The very fact that you are asking this question tells me that you have not committed the unpardonable sin. If you had committed that sin, you would be so lost, that you would not even think of coming to ask if you could come back to the Kingdom of God. To say that you have committed this sin is silly and wrong.


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.......Ma and Da loved me, of course, but the church was so stiff and unkind to everyone (some of the things preached when I was a child - voting for a democrat damned you to hell, women who went to college were damned to hell, if you didn't give 10% of your money to the church you were damned to hell, if you didn't fast at least once a week you were damned to hell, if you didn't attend every church service offered at the church you were damned to hell, etc). .....

I believe that we spend too much time trying to scare people out of hell, when we should spend more time loving people into Heaven. Find a Bible-based church that preaches love. We have to understand that if we do not accept Jesus as our Lord and Savior, we will be eternally separated from Him and cast into the lake of fire -- or hell. But Jesus was more about love -- He loved us so much that He died on the cross for us. He loved us so much that He arose from the dead, to speak on our behalf. We need to spend more time on that aspect of the Gospel. :groupray:

I will pray for you. Please come on back and rejoin the Kingdom.
 
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The very fact that you ask if you can go back, indicates to me that the Lord has placed in your heart the desire to be with Him. Which means He still loves you. COme home prodical son, his arms are wide open, he has sacrificed the fatted calf, invited everyone over to welcome you home.
 
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