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Then you don't know Genesis.Brother, what God tells us about the Sabbaths since that first Sabbath is that He is always at work.
Brother, Happy Sabbath begins for me this Friday at 12:24 pm Eastern Standard Time! Accepting God's day in Genesis, I was able to understand His message in Hebrews. The morning-to-morning weekday established in Genesis explains the two announcements in Hebrews. I first understood the first day in Genesis ends in a "morning", followed by Manna spoiling in the "morning", unless the next day was a Sabbath, and finally, I could understand how God prevented Joshua from entering the Sabbath for 40 years in the desert with Manna. The two announcements in Hebrews, chapter 3 and 4, verify the morning-to-morning day in Genesis: first, Joshua did not enter God's "day" of rest during the 40 years with Manna in the desert, and secondly, Joshua did not give God's "day" of rest to Judaism, because hearing the story of Manna, written for us from morning-to-morning did Joshua no good, because he wrongly assumed that the Sabbath in the Promised Land at an earlier time from evening-to-evening is the seventh day of the week when God had taught him for 40 years in the desert that the seventh day of the week is from morning-to-morning and not from evening-to-evening.Then you don't know Genesis. Hebrews is about creation only because that is what God rested from in Genesis.
Non-responsive to God's full-time rest of Hebrews 4:3.Brother, Happy Sabbath begins for me this Friday at 12:24 pm Eastern Standard Time! Accepting God's day in Genesis, I was able to understand His message in Hebrews. The morning-to-morning weekday established in Genesis explains the two announcements in Hebrews. I first understood the first day in Genesis ends in a "morning", followed by Manna spoiling in the "morning", unless the next day was a Sabbath, and finally, I could understand how God prevented Joshua from entering the Sabbath for 40 years in the desert with Manna. The two announcements in Hebrews, chapter 3 and 4, verify the morning-to-morning day in Genesis: first, Joshua did not enter God's "day" of rest during the 40 years with Manna in the desert, and secondly, Joshua did not give God's "day" of rest to Judaism, because hearing the story of Manna, written for us from morning-to-morning did Joshua no good, because he wrongly assumed that the Sabbath in the Promised Land at an earlier time from evening-to-evening is the seventh day of the week when God had taught him for 40 years in the desert that the seventh day of the week is from morning-to-morning and not from evening-to-evening.
God gave instructions to remember the Sabbath in Jerusalem at an earlier time, from evening-to-evening than the seventh day of the week from morning-to-morning, established in Genesis and confirmed below. Every translation has mistakenly assumed that God's "expression": "the first of the Sabbaths" refers to Sunday when referring to Saturday, another way to refer to the seventh day of the creation week we call Saturday.
- I first understood Genesis day from morning-to-morning.
- Then I understood that the days with Manna for 40 years were from morning-to-morning.
- And finally, in Hebrews 3 and 4, the morning-to-morning of the seventh day near the Promised Land does not enter God's Sabbath, which Joshua entered from evening-to-evening before the seventh day of the week in the Promised Land.
long after the Sabbath (evening), as it dawns beyond Saturday (morning), came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary, to see the tomb. (Mathew 28:1, my own translation)
United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge
Can you please point out where it says God’s rest is everyday (full-time) in the scripture you posted:Non-responsive to God's full-time rest of Hebrews 4:3.
". . .And yet his work has been finished since the creation of the world. . ."And on the seventh day he rested from all his work." (Hebrews 4:3-4)Can you please point out where it says God’s rest is everyday (full-time) in the scripture you posted.
Hebrews 4:3 For we who have believed do enter that rest, as He has said:
“So I swore in My wrath,
‘They shall not enter My rest,’ ”
although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
We enter God's rest, which is full-time. That is the reason the writer points it out above.The scripture says those who believe enter His rest, but in
this verse is not does say “full-time” you seem to be adding that.
They refused to go into (Numbers 14) the promised rest of Canaan (Joshua 1:13; Exodus 33:14; Deuteronomy 25:19), a rest from their enemies (Deuteronomy 12:9-10), and which is referred to in Hebrews 3:7-11 (i.e., Psalms 95:7-11).If you look at verse Hebrews 4:6 is saying those who disobeyed did not enter due to disobedience so disbelief and disobedience are interchangeable.
What was their disobedience of for those who it was first preached?
Was God’s work finished from the creation of the world? Yes it is Genesis 2:1-3 and did God not rest on the seventh day? Yes He did Genesis 2:1-3. This is in support to what the passage says and not what it does not say and that is God’s rest is “full-time” which you have not provided scripture that support this.". . .And yet his work has been finished since the creation of the world. . ."And on the seventh day he rested from all his work." (Hebrews 4:3-4)
Was God’s work finished from the creation of the world? Yes it is Genesis 2:1-3 and did God not rest on the seventh day? Yes He did Genesis 2:1-3. This is in support to what the passage says and not what it does not say and that is God’s rest is “full-time” which you have not provided scripture that support this.
We have been through this several times, a covenant is an agreement, the first agreement is obsolete, not the laws according to God. Hebrews 8:10 10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put My laws in their mind and write them on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people."now written in our hearts and minds in the New Covenant. Hebrews 8:10 God asked us to obey all Ten Commandments, not just nine."
You missed a part of Hebrews chapter 8, and part of chapter 12.
Heb 8:13 In that He says, "A NEW COVENANT," He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.
We are not come to Mount Sinai in Hebrews 12:18. We are come instead to the New Covenant church of Mount Zion and the blood in Hebrews 12:22-24.
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Sorry you don't see Hebrews 4:3-4 as Scripture.Was God’s work finished from the creation of the world? Yes it is Genesis 2:1-3 and did God not rest on the seventh day? Yes He did Genesis 2:1-3. This is in support to what the passage says and not what it does not say and that is God’s rest is “full-time” which you have not provided scripture that support this.
Wow. No words for this unfounded accusation and you can’t quote me saying anything remotely like this, so its just your empty words.Sorry you don't see Hebrews 4:3-4 as Scripture.
On the seventh day He rested does not say God is our full-time rest. We are told not to add our words to God’s. Proverbs 30:5-6. . .And yet his work has been finished since the creation of the world. . ."And on the seventh day he rested from all his work." (Hebrews 4:3-4)
Non-responsive to Hebrews 4:3-4.Wow. No words for this unfounded accusation and you can’t quote me saying anything remotely like this, so its just your empty words.
On the seventh day He rested does not say God is our full-time rest. We are told not to add our words to God’s. Proverbs 30:5-6
Take care.
Jesus will be the judge of that and what’s really going on here and we are accountable for everything we say and teach.Non-responsive to Hebrews 4:3-4.
I can also judge that you did not address the word of God in Hebrews 4:3-4.Jesus will be the judge of that and we are accountable for everything we say and teach.
Brother, your point of view is based on a mistranslation. We do not automatically enter the "day" of rest by accepting the "good news" of entering the Sabbath "announced to us just as it was to them" in the desert, like the King James Bible (KJV) mistranslated. What we "can" enter is the "day" of rest in the new covenant "announced to us just as it was to them" by accepting how God prevented Joshua from entering the Sabbath for 40 years in the desert by keeping the seventh day of the week near the Promised Land when the Sabbath is entered earlier than the Seventh day in the Promised Land. Many translations continue the error started by the KJV's misidentification of Joshua as Jesus in Hebrews, chapter 4, when Jesus was not before David to make the "good news" of entering the Sabbath the "gospel" of Jesus. The wrong translation of "gospel" for the phrase the "good news" of entering the Sabbath has influenced wrongly many other Bible translations after the KJV. The newer NKJV fixes the misidentification of Joshua as Jesus but not its effect on the rest of the passage, like the "gospel" (not possible before David), for the phrase, the "good news" of entering the Sabbath, first heard by those that died in the desert. Those, like Joshua, who were not allowed to enter the Sabbath by "oath" near the Promised Land with Manna, that Joshua later entered before the seventh day of the week from evening to evening, having been prevented from entering the Sabbath with Manna for 40 years from morning to morning near the Promised Land. In the Hebrews passage, another "day" refers to a different day than the one thought for the Sabbath since Joshua: not the seventh day of the week everywhere, but the seventh day of the week of creation remembered in the time zone of creation.Sorry you don't see Hebrews 4:3-4 as Scripture.
God's saints keep the commandments of God and faith in Jesus Revelation 14:12.
Brother, it is a mistranslation in the King James Version (KJV), evident in the update in the New King James Version (NKJV). "Joshua" was not "Jesus" before David as found in the KJV and its effect on the rest of the passage, as I explain in my previous post, where the KJV mistranslated the "good news" of entering the Sabbath as the "gospel" of Jesus, which was not possible before David for those who first heard the "good news" of entering the Sabbath in the desert.Got it! When Scripture doesn't agree with you, it is a mistranslation.
Irrelevant to my post.Brother, it is a mistranslation in the King James Version (KJV), evident in the update in the New King James Version (NKJV). "Joshua" was not "Jesus" before David as found in the KJV and its effect on the rest of the passage, as I explain in my previous post, where the KJV mistranslated the "good news" of entering the Sabbath as the "gospel" of Jesus, which was not possible before David for those who first heard the "good news" of entering the Sabbath in the desert.
Brother, let's take a close look at the mistranslation because the King James Version (KJV) translators thought the "good news" of entering the Sabbath was Jesus' "gospel" before David.Non-responsive to God's full-time rest of Hebrews 4:3.
where the KJV mistranslated the "good news" of entering the Sabbath as the "gospel" of Jesus, which was not possible before David for those who first heard the "good news" of entering the Sabbath in the desert.
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