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Is the RFID Chip the Mark of the Beast?

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The RFID chip is not the avtual mark of the beast it is the way of enforcement however. The mark of the beast is the oppisite of the mark of YAHWEH. The mark of Yahweh can be found in Scripture: (On a topic this important please take the time to read this, it may be different than what you have heard however it is pure Scripture, if any wish to rufute this please use Scripture and remember this Revelation 12:9, "And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan,
who deceives the whole world.")

Exodus 13:9, "And it shall be as a *sign to you upon your hand and as a memorial between your eyes, that Yahweh's Law shall be in your mouth; for with a strong hand Yahweh has brought you out of Egypt."

*Sign is Word #226, Hebrew Dictionary, Strong's Exhaustive Concordance, meaning mark, token, sign, consent, flag, evidence of consent.

Exodus 31:13-17, "Speak also to the children of Israyl, saying; Surely My Sabbaths you shall keep, for they are a sign between Me and you throughout your generations, that you may know that I am Yahweh Who sanctifies you, and makes you holy"....16-17, "Therefore the children of Israyl shall keep the Sabbath, to observe the Sabbath throughout their generations as a perpetual covenant. It is a sign between Me and the
children of Israyl forever, for in six days Yahweh made the heavens and the earth, and on the Seventh Day He rested and was refreshed."

Ezekiel 20:12, "Moreover, I also gave them My Sabbaths, to be a sign between Me and them, that they might know that I am Yahweh Who sanctifies them."


Revelation 14:9-11, "And the third malak followed them, saying with a loud voice: If any man worships the beast and his likeness, and receives his mark in his forehead or upon his hand, The same will drink of the wine of
the wrath of Yahweh...........And they have no Sabbath night and day, who
worship the beast and his likeness..."

This "sign" is your actions (hand) and your belief/faith (between your eyes/forehead)

If you think the Sabbath is only for the Hebrew people and/or gentiles were grafted in during the NT you are Scriptually wrong:

Isayah 56:1-7, "This is what Yahweh says: Keep the judgments, and do justly; for My salvation is near, soon, to come, and My righteousness to be revealed. Blessed is the man who does this, and the son of man who lays hold on it; who keeps the Sabbaths without polluting; defiling, them; and keeps his hand from doing dany evil. Do not let the son of the Gentile, who has joined himself to Yahweh, speak, saying; Yahweh has utterly separated me from His people. Nor let the eunuch say; Behold, I am a dry tree. For this is what Yahweh says: To the eunuchs who keep My Sabbaths, and choose those things which eplease Me, and hold fast to My covenant: I will give to them, in My House, even within My walls, a place and a Name equal to that of sons and of daughters; I will give them the Name of The Everlasting: YAHWEH; which will not be cut off. Also the sons of the Gentile who join themselves to Yahweh, to serve Him, and to love the Name of Yahweh, to be His servants--everyone who keeps the Sabbaths without polluting; defiling, them and who holds fast to My covenant--I will bring them to My holy mountain, and make them joyful in My House of prayer..."

Exodus 12:48-49, "And when a stranger lives among you and wants to sacrifice the Passover to Yahweh, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near, and sacrifice it; and he shall be as a native of the land. But no uncircumcised person shall eat of it. One Law shall be for the nativeborn and for the stranger who dwells among you."

The Sabbath change had nothig to do with the Messiah, it came from Constantine at the council of Nicea 321ad and it is based upon SUN god worship (Sol Invictus Mithra), look up Cardinal James Gibbons quotes on the change of the Sabbath. It is the beast that changed it in the minds of the people; Revelation 17:9, "And here is the mind which has wisdom: The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits." Watch this video to see the Scriptual evidence of who the 1st beast is youtube.com/watch?v=MBN0v9GdJvE (it will be updated Yahweh willing)

HalleluYahweh!
 
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This view is popular among Seventh-Day Adventists, and Messianic Christians, thinking that every single person who goes to Church on Sundays have already accepted The Mark.

But I still have to ask, how would enforced Sunday service tie in with buying and selling? How can it even be enforced? People who work Sundays such as nurses...are automatically screwed over? What about people who are in hospital isolation wards?..sorry...they die? How about people in comas?...

As the prophecy reads "Right hand *or* forehead", I see a potential problem with enforced Sunday services. The prophecy generally has two different views: Right Hand (RFID) or Forehead (Enforced Sunday service). If churches were to begin to scan everyone's hand upon entry, then the prophecy should read "right hand and forehead" instead, as I see it anyways. It is the 'Or' in the prophecy which causes the different views.
 
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No its not the "Mark". When the mark comes it will be after the antichrist has been revealed and every single person will have to make a definite decision on accepting it or not. There will be no I'm not sure if I took it or not, you will know before what it is.

Not to mention the text speaks of the mark on the hands OR FOREHEAD... That part seems to always be left out by those who buy into the RFID bit. Do you really think the RFID will go between your eyes?

Let's run an experiment then... you take the RFID chip and become one with the Babylonian economic / religious system and we'll see if God considers this allegiance as turning away from Him or not.

Personally, I don't think you will fair well. It's only where you spend eternity that's at stake so this will be an interesting experiment.

If we don't see you later on in Heaven, we will know for sure that taking the chip was the wrong decision.


This view is popular among Seventh-Day Adventists, and Messianic Christians, thinking that every single person who goes to Church on Sundays have already accepted The Mark

Sundays - Why we Observe

Mark 16:2, Luke 24:1
Jesus arose upon “the first day of the week

Acts 2 – Pentecost
by Divine design always came on Sunday. (Lev. 23:15-16).

Acts 2 – The church was established
“repentance and remission of sins” first preached this Sunday in Acts 2 – and they were “added to the saved”.

Acts 20:7
The early church met on “the first day of the week” for communion.

1 Corinthians 16:2
Early church “offerings” were directed to be done “upon the first day of the week…”.
 
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Yahshua did not rise on SUNday, watch this video please, if you desire truth. 3 days and 3 nights, and this is Yahweh's calendar and not the Bablonian/Julian calendar.

youtube.com/watch?v=AK7AqKnKvEs

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This view is popular among Seventh-Day Adventists, and Messianic Christians, thinking that every single person who goes to Church on Sundays have already accepted The Mark.

But I still have to ask, how would enforced Sunday service tie in with buying and selling? How can it even be enforced? People who work Sundays such as nurses...are automatically screwed over?

The Scriptures don't say exactly how it will be enforced, so none on earth can know for sure. However

Daniyl 8:11-13, "Yes, he amagnified himself as high as the Prince of the host; and by him the daily (sacrifices is italicised therefore it's added) were taken away, and the place of the sanctuary was cast down. And a host was given him against the daily (sacrifice added) by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practiced, and succeeded. Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said to the one that spoke: How long will be the vision concerning the daily (sacrifice added), the setting up of The Lord of Heaven, and the surrender of the sanctuary, and the host to be trampled underfoot?"

However you interpret this verse truth will be cast aside which will lead people to accept the mark of the beast without knowing it. And they would not have to make you not work on SUNday, they could just make the 7th day the only day to buy and sell, or make the 7th day a mandatory work day.
 
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This view is popular among Seventh-Day Adventists, and Messianic Christians, thinking that every single person who goes to Church on Sundays have already accepted The Mark.

But I still have to ask, how would enforced Sunday service tie in with buying and selling? How can it even be enforced?


It's not about worshipping on SUNday, it's about NOT WORSHIPPING ON YAHWEH"S SABBATH

They could make the 7th day the only day you can buy or sell, the world will be in a state of chaos at this time anyway so it may be "organic" for what is happening. Not to mention a crakdown on religious people.

Daniyl 8:12, "And a host was given him against the daily (sacrifice is an added word we could just as well add the daily worship) by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practiced, and succeeded."
 
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The Body of Jesus Christ has been directed by Him to meet and assemble on Sunday as shown by the actions of the Apostles in the early church as they were led by the Holy Ghost.

He has NOT directed His Body to observe Saturday as being the Sabbath as every day as well as our entire lives have been bought with a price and should be honoring God ongoing. No where are directed to do this in the NT. If we were, we would either have scripture in the NT that direct this or we would see examples of the early church doing this and we have neither.

There is an intentional difference between OT observances and NT observances. You are welcome to observe OT observances but that will not save you and those that don't will not go to hell for not observing OT observances. Enjoy!
 
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Watch that video i posted and then tell me Yahshua rose on SUNday, I am not trying to be rude at all, you are clearly zealous for the Word, and I am zealous to share truth with people, please watch the vid and if you disagree the share your view with me.
 
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I've heard the arguments before and unless you know of someone who was there in person and can testify for a fact... it's going to be hard to prove exactly what day Jesus rose from the dead.

However, we do know that Pentecost is on Sunday which is the day the Holy Ghost was poured out on mankind making it possible for men to become born-again.

That's going to be the primary reason why the early church Apostles observed Sunday as being the day Christians assemble themselves together to worship the Lord.
 
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I will drop it after this, there is no argument, if you put the Scriptures togather you will see it is IMPOSSIBLE for Yahshua the have risen on SUNday. Please watch the video.

Edit to add this :

Daniyl 7:25, "And he will speak great words against Yahweh, and will wear out; mentally attack to cause to fall away, the saints of Yahweh, and think to change times and Laws."
 
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I think the reason why the SDA church has blown up the mark of the beast into an issue of whether or not we worship on Saturday, is because they (like most other Christians) don't want to face the fact that their salvation depends on their acceptance/denial of the beast's economic system. Money drives this world literally crazy, and it's also become a god to so many people. So anybody who wants to serve the god of mammon, and the One True God at the same time, find themselves in a difficult position. Sadly, the god of mammon usually succeeds in winning them over, because after all, "you can't live without money".

I didn't bother watching the video about which day Jesus rose on, because quite frankly I think there are FAR more important things to be discussing with regard to Christianity.
 
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I think the reason why the SDA church has blown up the mark of the beast into an issue of whether or not we worship on Saturday, is because they (like most other Christians) don't want to face the fact that their salvation depends on their acceptance/denial of the beast's economic system. Money drives this world literally crazy, and it's also become a god to so many people. So anybody who wants to serve the god of mammon, and the One True God at the same time, find themselves in a difficult position. Sadly, the god of mammon usually succeeds in winning them over, because after all, "you can't live without money".

I didn't bother watching the video about which day Jesus rose on, because quite frankly I think there are FAR more important things to be discussing with regard to Christianity.


On the positive side to this topic the association of the mark of the beast with Sunday worship has the potential to become a bit like a loophole that could alter the future in some positive ways!

Imagine a series of documentary, reality and semi-reality films set perhaps in 1938 to 1945 where an entirely different branch of time is spun off in which the holocaust does not occur and WWII is basically prevented.

This is possible in theory!!!!

At this time I am convinced that Ezekiel 37 is not limited to being a one time event but instead will occur as many times as G-d wishes to replicate the earth as it was in any moment of what we refer to as the past. Time actually looks like a menorah or tree with many branches.........and from the perspective of the higher dimensions of space time what we fear at this moment is of little concern??????!!!!!

From that place bringing joy to the Ancient of Days the Heavenly Father is what really matters to us!!!


http://www.christianforums.com/t7695357/

Could God be the most emotional being in the universe????
 
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“Sunday is our mark or authority...the church is above the Bible, and this transference of Sabbath observance is proof of that factCatholic Record of London, Ontario, September 1, 1923.

Exodus 31:13, "Speak also to the children of Israyl, saying; Surely My Sabbaths you shall keep, for they are a *sign between Me and you throughout your generations, that you may know that I am Yahweh
Who sanctifies you, and makes you holy
."

*sign=Word #226, Hebrew Dictionary,Strong's Exhaustive Concordance,
meaning mark, token, sign, consent, flag, evidence of consent.

“Of course the Catholic Church claims that the change (Saturday Sabbath to Sunday) was her act...And the act is a mark of her ecclesiastical authority in religious thingsH.F. Thomas, Chancellor of Cardinal Gibbons

Ezekiyl 20:12, "Moreover, I also gave them My Sabbaths, to be a sign between Me and them, that they might know that I am Yahweh Who sanctifies them."

“Protestants...accept Sunday rather than Saturday as the day for public worship after the Catholic Church made the change...But the Protestant mind does not seem to realize that...In observing the Sunday, they are accepting the authority of the spokesman for the church, the Pope.” Our Sunday Visitor, February 15, 1950.

“Sunday is founded, not of scripture, but on tradition, and is distinctly a Catholic institution. As there is no scripture for the transfer of the day of rest from the last to the first day of the week, Protestants ought to keep their Sabbath on Saturday and thus leave Catholics in full possession of Sunday.” Catholic Record, September 17, 1893.

“It is always somewhat laughable, to see the Protestant churches, in pulpit and legislation, demand the observance of Sunday, of which there is nothing in their Bible.” Peter R. Kraemer, Catholic Church Extension Magazine, USA (1975), Chicago, Illinois, “Under the blessing of the Pope Pius XI”

Daniyl 7:25, "And he will speak great words against Yahweh, and will wear out; mentally attack to cause to fall away, the saints of Yahweh, and think to change times and Laws."

Daniyl 8:12, "And a host was given him against the daily by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practiced, and succeeded."

And if you don't believe the Catholic Churchis is the beast spoken of in Daniyl and Revelation:

Daniyl 7:25, "And he will speak great words against Yahweh, and will wear out; mentally attack to cause to fall away, the saints of Yahweh, and think to change times and Laws."

Clearly changed the Sabbath and more

Daniyl 8:12, "And a host was given him against the daily by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practiced, and succeeded."

Daniyl 7:19-21, "Then I would know the truth of the fourth beast, which was different from all the others, exceedingly dreadful, whose teeth were of iron, and his claws of bronze; which devoured, broke in pieces, and trampled the residue with his feet; And of the ten horns that were on his
head
, and of the other horn which came up, before gwhom three fell--the horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spoke very great things, whose look was more stout; more mighty and imposing, than his fellows. I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them."


Foxe's Book of Martyrs historically records the Romans killing 11 of the 12 apostles, including Kepha (Peter), and beheading Shaul (Paul). It is estimated to have killed 50million to 1 billion all toghther, now you know where they got all those skulls for the catacombs.

Revelation 13:5-6, "And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things, and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to wmake war for forty-two moons; months. And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against Yahweh, to blaspheme His Name, and His House, and those who dwell in heaven."

Pope says not to use the Name of Yaweh: Vatican Says No 'Yahweh' In Songs, Prayers At Catholic Masses - Music & Dance - Entertainment - Catholic Online

Revelation 17:4, "And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet color, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication."

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Revelation 17:6, "And I saw the woman drunk with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Yahshua."
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Revelation 17:9, "And here is the mind which has wisdom: The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits."
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Revelation 13:18, "Here is wisdom: Let him who has understanding count the number of the beast; for it is the asnumber of a man. And his number is 666."
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Sunday is founded, not of scripture, but on tradition

Sundays - Why we Observe

Jesus arose upon “the first day of the week….”
Mark 16:2, Luke 24:1, John 20:1

Pentecost – by Divine design always came on Sunday. (Lev. 23:15-16)
Acts 2

The church was established – “repentance and remission of sins” first preached this Sunday in Acts 2 and they were “added to the saved”.
Acts 2

The early church met on “the first day of the week” for communion.
Acts 20:7

Early church “offerings” were directed to be done “upon the first day of the week…”.
1 Corinthians 16:2


Lookin like there actually IS scripture for meetin on Sunday, especially since we know Pentecost fell on Sunday and God poured out the Holy Ghost on Pentecost which is when the church was started. :thumbsup:


 
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The thing about enforced Sunday worship as being the "Mark"....how is Sunday worship tied in with buying and selling?

An RFID tag makes more sense - technologically, as the governments of the world can gradually change currency from physical to only digital by reducing the number of coins and bills they print out over time.

And how does a country even *enforce* Sunday service anyways? What about people who are too sick? How about people whose immune systems are total crap because of chemotherapy? Or those in jail? or those who can't get out due to physical limitations?
 
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An RFID tag makes more sense - technologically, as the governments of the world can gradually change currency from physical to only digital by reducing the number of coins and bills they print out over time.

This has been being worked on for several years now as far as the technology is concerned. It's able to be done now with today's technology and it IS being done!

Makes me dancing happy cause I know the Lord's return and the end of this age is that much closer!
 
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The thing about enforced Sunday worship as being the "Mark"....how is Sunday worship tied in with buying and selling?

An RFID tag makes more sense - technologically, as the governments of the world can gradually change currency from physical to only digital by reducing the number of coins and bills they print out over time.

And how does a country even *enforce* Sunday service anyways? What about people who are too sick? How about people whose immune systems are total crap because of chemotherapy? Or those in jail? or those who can't get out due to physical limitations?

It's not about making people observe SUNday, it dosen't mean you evil if you gather or worship on Sunaday. It's about not having the mark of Yahweh. The world will be in a state of chaos at that time and it could be that the 7th day is the only day to buy groceries or gas. The RFID will be the way it is enforced, no doubt in my mind. Also if SDA teach a forced SUNday, I think there view is wrong. With all the crackdown on religion that is already happening I can see something where the idea of a indivigual way of worship will be attacked, and it fits with the one world universal religion that will be. Join it or your a terrorists, and many will probably have that same view because of people like radical muslims.
 
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Sundays - Why we Observe
Jesus arose upon “the first day of the week….”
Mark 16:2, Luke 24:1, John 20:1
Pentecost – by Divine design always came on Sunday. (Lev. 23:15-16)
Acts 2
The church was established – “repentance and remission of sins” first preached this Sunday in Acts 2 and they were “added to the saved”.
Acts 2
The early church met on “the first day of the week” for communion.
Acts 20:7
Early church “offerings” were directed to be done “upon the first day of the week…”.
1 Corinthians 16:2
Lookin like there actually IS scripture for meetin on Sunday, especially since we know Pentecost fell on Sunday and God poured out the Holy Ghost on Pentecost which is when the church was started. :thumbsup:

Isayah 29:13, "Therefore Yahweh said: Because these people draw near to Me with their mouths and honor Me with their lips, but have removed their hearts far from Me, and their reverence to Me is taught by the precept of men."



"Jesus arose upon the first day of the week…."


This is Scriptually untrue, and it is proved in this video using Scripture: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK7AqKnKvEs



Mattithyah 15:7-9, "Hypocrites! Well did Isayah prophesy of you, saying: These people draw near to Me with their mouth and honor Me with their lips, but have removed their hearts far from Me. But in vain they do worship Me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men."


There are many scriptures that verify the Sabbath day being the 7th day of the week. All throughout the 'New testament', the first day of the week is called "The first day of the week" and the 7th day of the week is called "The Sabbath". This fact alone should prove when the Sabbath truly is.
However, let us examine the pattern of the disciples after Yahushua's resurrection in the book of acts to determine what day that they attended Sabbath Services and what day they expected others to observe. We will keep a count of how many times the Sabbath is observed.
We see one example in Acts 17:1...
Acts 17:1 (NKJV) Now when they had passed through Amphipolis and Apollonia, they came to Thessalonica, where there was a synagogue of the Jews. Acts 17:2 Then Paul, as his custom was, went in to them, and for three Sabbaths reasoned with them from the Scriptures, Acts 17:3 explaining and demonstrating that the Messiah had to suffer and rise again from the dead, and [saying], "This Yahushua whom I preach to you is the Messiah." Acts 17:4 And some of them were persuaded; and a great multitude of the devout Greeks, and not a few of the leading women, joined Paul and Silas. Here we see that Paul went to a Sabbath service where there were both Jews and Greeks. The scripture also mentions that this was a regular custom of Paul. Was this also the custom of Yahushua the Messiah?
Luke 4:16 (NKJV) So He came to Nazareth, where He had been brought up. And as His custom was, He went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day, and stood up to read. So here we can see that 22 years after Yahushua's death and resurrection the disciples were attending Sabbath services. In no place do we see Paul or any other disciple teaching them that they should come back the next day for a 'first day of the week' service. But they went to three Sabbath services where there were both Jews and Greeks present. So then the doctrine that says the Jews have their day (the 7th day) and the Gentiles have their day (the 1st day) is foreign to scripture.
Some would argue that Paul was at the synagogue only because that is where he would find people to witness to...not to observe the Sabbath. But the scripture does not say that. This is an assumption that those who refuse the simplicity of the scriptures want to make, not one that the scriptures support. Again, the Seventh Day is called "The Sabbath day" in this passage.
So lets see where we are at now..
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Another example is found in Acts 13...
Acts 13:13 (NKJV) Now when Paul and his party set sail from Paphos, they came to Perga in Pamphylia; and John, departing from them, returned to Jerusalem. Acts 13:14 But when they departed from Perga, they came to Antioch in Pisidia, and went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day and sat down. Acts 13:15 And after the reading of the Law and the Prophets, the rulers of the synagogue sent to them, saying, "Men [and] brethren, if you have any word of exhortation for the people, say on." So here is another example where Paul and the other disciples came to the Synagogue in Perga to attend the Sabbath Service.
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A little later in the chapter, after Paul shares Yahushua with them we see that the Gentiles were quite interested.
Acts 13:42 (NKJV) So when the Jews went out of the synagogue, the Gentiles begged that these words might be preached to them the next Sabbath. Now here is a perfect situation for Paul to tell these Gentiles "Hey just come back tomorrow, we keep the Sabbath on the first day now!" But we don't see this written anywhere in scripture.
Acts 13:43 Now when the congregation had broken up, many of the Jews and devout proselytes followed Paul and Barnabas, who, speaking to them, persuaded them to continue in the grace of Yahweh Acts 13:44 On the next Sabbath almost the whole city came together to hear the word of Yahweh. So here is the fifth time that the disciples attended a Sabbath service on the day that Yahweh sanctified at creation. Again, the seventh day is called "the Sabbath" in this passage.
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Here is another example in Acts 16...
Acts 16:11 (NKJV) Therefore, sailing from Troas, we ran a straight course to Samothrace, and the next [day] came to Neapolis, Acts 16:12 and from there to Philippi, which is the foremost city of that part of Macedonia, a colony. And we were staying in that city for some days. Acts 16:13 And on the Sabbath day we went out of the city to the riverside, where prayer was customarily made; and we sat down and spoke to the women who met [there]. It was the custom of the Jews of that day for the rabbi to shut down the synagogue if there were not at least 10 men that would show up for the Sabbath meeting. This could very well be why there were women meeting by the riverside for prayer. Nevertheless, we see that the disciples sought a place to meet for the Sabbath and they did. Again, the seventh day is called "the Sabbath Day" in this passage.
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Acts 18:1 (NKJV) After these things Paul departed from Athens and went to Corinth. Acts 18:2 And he found a certain Jew named Aquila, born in Pontus, who had recently come from Italy with his wife Priscilla (because Claudius had commanded all the Jews to depart from Rome); and he came to them. Acts 18:3 So, because he was of the same trade, he stayed with them and worked; for by occupation they were tentmakers. Acts 18:4 And he reasoned in the synagogue every Sabbath, and persuaded both Jews and Greeks. So we see that he worked on the other days as a tentmaker...but on the Sabbath He was not. And here again we see that both Jews and Greeks are in the synagogue and on the Sabbath. Paul also is among them attending the Sabbath services. The interesting thing about this verse is that instead of the scripture saying that they attended only one or three sabbath services, it says that he was there every Sabbath persuading both Jews and Greeks. Again, the seventh day is called "the Sabbath" in this passage so we know that we can at least count one. Let's do that..
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Now if Paul was in Corinth and was reasoning in the synagogue every Sabbath, if we could find out how long he stayed in Corinth then we would know how many Sabbaths he actually attended. Let's look furthur..
Acts 18:5 (NKJV) When Silas and Timothy had come from Macedonia, Paul was compelled by the Spirit, and testified to the Jews [that] Yahushua [is] the Messiah. 6 But when they opposed him and blasphemed, he shook [his] garments and said to them, "Your blood [be] upon your [own] heads; I [am] clean. From now on I will go to the Gentiles." 7 And he departed from there and entered the house of a certain [man] named Justus, [one] who worshiped God, whose house was next door to the synagogue. 8 Then Crispus, the ruler of the synagogue, believed on the Master with all his household. And many of the Corinthians, hearing, believed and were baptized. 9 Now the Master spoke to Paul in the night by a vision, "Do not be afraid, but speak, and do not keep silent; 10 "for I am with you, and no one will attack you to hurt you; for I have many people in this city." 11 And he continued [there] a year and six months, teaching the word of God among them. A year and six months! Finally the ruler of the synagogue was converted to Yahushua and Paul was there a year and six months! So the scripture says that Paul was there every Sabbath and that he was there for a year and six months. If we counted this by our present calendar that would give us 52 Sabbaths in a year plus 26 Sabbaths in the following six months which gives us a total of 78 Sabbaths! Now lets add this to our present total:
 
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So we can see that the disciples observed the Sabbath and attended a Sabbath service 85 times in the book of acts alone! Again, the seventh day is called "the Sabbath" in this passage.
Now how many times do we see them meeting together on the first day? Some would cite one example in Acts 20. Let's examine the text...
Acts 20:6 (NKJV) But we sailed away from Philippi after the Days of Unleavened Bread, and in five days joined them at Troas, where we stayed seven days. Acts 20:7 Now on the first [day] of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul, ready to depart the next day, spoke to them and continued his message until midnight. Here we see an example of the disciples gathering together on the first day of the week. There is no mention of a Sabbath being observed in this verse. Nowhere is this day called "The Sabbath". In fact, we know that Paul was ready to depart the next day. According to verse 7, Paul spoke to them a message because for this very reason.
Now some would say that coming together to 'break bread' constitutes a meeting that includes the observance of partaking in Yahushua's body. But this is not true...consider this verse:
Acts 2:44 (NKJV) Now all who believed were together, and had all things in common, 45 and sold their possessions and goods, and divided them among all, as anyone had need. 46 So continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, they ate their food with gladness and simplicity of heart, 47 praising Yahweh and having favor with all the people. And Yahweh added to the assembly daily those who were being saved. According to this scripture, breaking bread was not an uncommon thing to do on a daily basis. It was one of the customs in those days to eat their 'daily bread'. Even in Yahushua's prayer He said "Give us this day our daily bread".
So we cannot confirm that this scripture in Acts 20 is a Sabbath day observance. In fact, nowhere does it say that the first day of the week is the Sabbath. But the 7th day of the week is always called "the Sabbath" in the 'new testament.' Unless you don't believe in the New Testament, you would have to conclude that this was not a Sabbath meeting. So what was it really? Many may not realize that in scripture, a new day begins at sundown. This would mean that at sundown on 'Saturday', the first day of the week begins. This was most probably an 'after Sabbath' fellowship meal where Paul continued to speak until midnight because he wanted to get as much teaching in as possible before he departed the next day.
Nevertheless some will hang onto this one verse so that they don't have to forsake tradition and keep the true Sabbath. But you can search the scriptures from Genesis to Revelations and you will not find a single verse that says His Sabbath was changed to a different day. There is not a single verse that tells us that the Ten Commandments are not to be kept. And there is not a single verse that prophesied either of these two events occurring! In fact, the scriptures declare the seventh day to be the Sabbath in the Law, in the words of the prophets, in the writings about Yahushua and in the acts of the apostles as well as in the scriptures that speak of Yahweh's kingdom. Therefore that final tally will remain at:
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There is also evidence that the early disciples kept the Sabbath on the true day:
"The primitive Christians did keep the Sabbath of the Jews;.therefore the Christians for a long time together, did keep their conventions on the Sabbath, in which some portion of the Law were read: and this continued till the time of the Laodicean council." The Whole Works of Jeremey Taylor, Vol. IX, p416 (R. Heber's Edition, Vol.XII, p.416)"The ancient Christians were very careful in the observation of Saturday, or the seventh day..It is plain that all the Oriental churches, and the greatest part of the world, observed the Sabbath as a festival...Athanasius likewise tells us that they held religious assemblies on the Sabbath, not because they were infected with Judaism, but to worship [Yahushua], the [Master] of the Sabbath, Epiphanius says the same." Antiquities of the Christian Church, Vol. II, Book XX, chap. 3, Sec. 1, 66.1137, 1138"Ambrose, the celebrated bishop of Milan, said that when he was in Milan he observed Saturday, but when in Rome observed Sunday. This gave rise to the proverb 'When you are in Rome, do as Rome does,' " Heylyn, The History of the Sabbath, 1613 Constantine later enforced keeping a Sabbath on the first day of the week, which he calls "the venerable day of the sun." Venerable means 'commanding respect'.
The text of Constantine's Sunday Law of 321 A.D. is:
"One the venerable day of the Sun let the magistrates and people residing in cities rest, and let all workshops be closed. In the country however persons engaged in agriculture may freely and lawfully continue their pursuits because it often happens that another day is not suitable for gain-sowing or vine planting; lest by neglecting the proper moment for such operations the bounty of heaven should be lost." This doesn't even really sound like Yahweh's Sabbath which forbids any kind of work at all on His day!
Later, those who observed the Sabbath were persecuted and killed by the Catholic church. When the Jesuit St. Francis Xavier arrived in India he immediately requested to the pope to set up the Inquisition there.
"The Jewish wickedness" of which Xavier complained was evidently the Sabbath-keeping among those native Christians as we shall see in our next quotation. When one of these Sabbath-keeping Christians was taken by the Inquisition he was accused of having *Judaized*; which means having conformed to the ceremonies of the Mosaic Law; such as not eating pork, hare, fish without scales, of having attended the solemnization of the Sabbath." Account of the Inquisition at Goa, Dellon, p.56. London, 1815 "Of an hundred persons condemned to be burnt as Jews, there are scarcely four who profess that faith at their death; the rest exclaiming and protesting to their last gasp that they are Christians, and have been so during their whole lives." Ibid p.64
 
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It's not about making people observe SUNday, it dosen't mean you evil if you gather or worship on Sunaday. It's about not having the mark of Yahweh. The world will be in a state of chaos at that time and it could be that the 7th day is the only day to buy groceries or gas.

This makes the least sense, economically. Doing this would mean that some people would only work 1 day a week when they need 5. And I bet that retail associations would have a fit if they were only allowed to operate on a single day of the week. This would absolutely destroy the economy.
 
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This makes the least sense, economically. Doing this would mean that some people would only work 1 day a week when they need 5. And I bet that retail associations would have a fit if they were only allowed to operate on a single day of the week. This would absolutely destroy the economy.

I didn't say the whole economy, I said:

Originally Posted by Hizikyah
"It's not about making people observe SUNday, it dosen't mean you evil if you gather or worship on Sunaday. It's about not having the mark of Yahweh. The world will be in a state of chaos at that time and it could be that the 7th day is the only day to buy groceries or gas."

Have you ever heard of UN Agenda 21? Yeah thier plan is total control were everybody live in contained mega cities with controlled resources. Litterally 200sq. ft. apartments attached to factories with limited water, electricity, etc. UN Aganda 21 is already making mass cahnged to our country, destroying infrastructure of remote towns, shutting down energy plants, etc.

Also these mini-apts attached to factories are ALREADY in china, they are surrounded by suicide nets. Yeah, it's real.

Mattithayh 24:21, "For then will be great tribulation, such as has not come to pass since the beginning of the world to this time--no, nor ever will be."

And there is no pre-tribulation rapture so WE NETTER BE SPIRITUALLY, MENTALLY, AND PHYSICALLY PREPARED.

1 Corinthians 15:51-52, "Behold, I show you a secret truth: we will not all sleep, but we will all be changed--In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we will be changed."
 
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