Is the mark of the beast going to be about the papacy changing the day of the Sabbath?

[Original Happy Camper]

how are you going to accept this mark on your hand or forehead?

what you believe = forehead
Your works = hand

Every person will stand before God in judgment.

Rom 2

6 God “will repay each person according to what they have done"

6 Who will render to every man according to his deeds:

 

[klutedavid]

what you believe = forehead
Your works = hand

Every person will stand before God in judgment.

Rom 2

6 God “will repay each person according to what they have done"

6 Who will render to every man according to his deeds:

The mark, is the number of a man and not an action.

 

[Original Happy Camper]

The false prophet Ellen White's ideas about Sunday laws was pretty silly even back in the 1800's. It's utterly ludicrous in the 21st century.

My prayers is that we will see if she is right very soon.

upheld by the US supreme court

Blue law - Wikipedia

United States[edit]
Main article: Blue laws in the United States
In the United States, judges have defended blue laws "in terms of their secular benefit to workers", holding that "the laws were essential to social well-being".[3] In 1896, Supreme Court Justice Stephen Johnson Field, opined with regard to Sunday blue laws:[3]

Its requirement is a cessation from labor. In its enactment, the legislature has given the sanction of law to a rule of conduct, which the entire civilized world recognizes as essential to the physical and moral well-being of society. Upon no subject is there such a concurrence of opinion, among philosophers, moralists and statesmen of all nations, as on the necessity of periodical cessation from labor. One day in seven is the rule, founded in experience and sustained by science. ... The prohibition of secular business on Sunday is advocated on the ground that by it the general welfare is advanced, labor protected, and the moral and physical well-being of society promoted.

Court cases[edit]
Beginning in the mid-19th century, religious and ethno-cultural minorities arrested for violating state and local blue laws appealed their convictions to state supreme courts. In Specht v. Commonwealth (Pa. 1848), for example, German Seventh Day Baptists in Pennsylvania employed attorney Thaddeus Stevens to challenge the constitutionality of Pennsylvania's Sunday law.[32] As in cases in other states, litigants pointed to the provisions of state constitutions protecting religious liberty and maintained that Sunday laws were a blatant violation. Though typically unsuccessful (most state supreme courts upheld the constitutionality of Sunday laws), these constitutional challenges helped set a pattern by which subsequent moral minorities would seek to protect religious freedom and minority rights.[33]

The Supreme Court of the United States held in its landmark case, McGowan v. Maryland (1961), that Maryland's blue laws violated neither the Free Exercise Clause nor the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment to the United States Constitution.[34] It approved the state's blue law restricting commercial activities on Sunday, noting that while such laws originated to encourage attendance at Christian churches, the contemporary Maryland laws were intended to serve "to provide a uniform day of rest for all citizens" on a secular basis and to promote the secular values of "health, safety, recreation, and general well-being" through a common day of rest. That this day coincides with Christian Sabbath is not a bar to the state's secular goals; it neither reduces its effectiveness for secular purposes nor prevents adherents of other religions from observing their own holy days.[35]

McGowan was but one of four Sunday closing cases decided together by the Court in May of 1961. In Gallagher v. Crown Kosher Super Market of Mass., Inc.,[36] the Court ruled against a Kosher deli that closed on Saturday but was open on Sunday. The other two cases were Braunfeld v. Brown, [37] and Two Guys from Harrison vs. McGinley.[38][39] Chief Justice Earl Warren declared that "the State seeks to set one day apart from all others as a day of rest, repose, recreation and tranquility--a day which all members of the family and community have the opportunity to spend and enjoy together, a day on which there exists relative quiet and disassociation from the everyday intensity of commercial activities, a day on which people may visit friends and relative who are not available during working days."[2]


Philadelphia, USA 2015: Pope Benedict XVI invites all the religious leaders of the world to the eight successive World Family Days, which will be held in Philadelphia, USA, in 2015. How will this affect you?

What is this day all about? The pope desires that all families have a work-free Sunday. Families should be free from work so that, on this day, children could be together with their parents and relatives and go to church as well. The pope suggests that we must maintain the natural weekly cycle so that we have a balance between work and rest. He also suggests that we should discover the true meaning of Sunday observance on this family day.'

In March 2006, Texas judges upheld the state blue law that requires car dealerships to close either Saturday or Sunday each weekend.[40]

 

[Original Happy Camper]

The mark, is the number of a man and not an action.

Notice the word worship and mark

9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

 

[Original Happy Camper]

The mark, is the number of a man and not an action.

Notice that there are three things in this verse separated by OR


Revelation 13:17
And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

 

[A_Thinker]

The mark is going to be about a law not allowing buying or selling on Sundays.

That is not what scripture states ...

Revelation 13

11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spoke as a dragon.

12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him; and he causeth the earth and them that dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men.

14 And he deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast, saying to them that dwell on the earth that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword and lived.

15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak and cause to be killed as many as would not worship the image of the beast.

16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand or in their foreheads,

17 that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark or the name of the beast or the number of his name.

 

[A_Thinker]

Just second guess it when you see it happen.

How do you wear out the saints without the beast being in the papacy?

The saints are currently attacked in many parts of the world (China, India, Saudi Arabia, etc.) in which the papcy has no authority ...

 

[A_Thinker]

The papacy is trying to point the blame away from themselves with your rhetoric.

How can the papacy be responsible for christian persecutions which occurred BEFORE it existed ???

 

[BNR32FAN]

what you believe = forehead
Your works = hand

Every person will stand before God in judgment.

Rom 2

6 God “will repay each person according to what they have done"

6 Who will render to every man according to his deeds:

Where can I get one of these secret bible decoder rings?

 

[nolidad]

Vicarius Filii Dei ..the substitution of the Son of God? The nerve of the papacy to give this title to the pope.

They used their authority to change God's Holy Day to the first day of the week? Who thought this was a good idea?

Saturday is God's Devine signature of Creation. It doesn't say anywhere in the Bible we can modify the Ten Commandments.

Isaiah 58:13
If you turn away your foot from the Sabbath, from doing your pleasure on My holy day, and call the Sabbath a delight, the holy day of the LORD honorable, and shall honor Him, not doing your own ways, nor finding your own pleasure, nor speaking your own words, B3 14 then you shall delight yourself in the LORD;

The papacy that started in Rome did not have Peter sitting in the seat. Anyone can claim Peter as the first of their own organization. It's just another trick.

The little horn on the first beast ends up being the papacy.

NO! The mark is an imprint or tattoo or some other from of a physical stamp on people!

 

[Jipsah]

Vicarius Filii Dei ..the substitution of the Son of God?

That's a made-up title, BTW. The Catholic Church has never used it. They use the term "Vicarius Christi", i.e., ther Vicar of Christ. A vicar is "a person who is authorized to perform the functions of another; deputy". The term "Vicarius Filii Dei" is an invention designed to add up to 666 so as to make it appear that the pope is the beast of Revelation. All that it proves is that enemies of the RCC are willing to lie.

Saturday is God's Devine signature of Creation.

Says Scripturte where?

You don't like the RCC. OK, lotta that going around. I don't happen to be all that thrilled with the SDA, and the redacted version of the Mosaic Law they would oblige everyone to keep.

 

[Jipsah]

Exodus 12:17
And ye shall observe the feast of unleavened bread; for in this selfsame day have I brought your hosts out of the land of Egypt; therefore shall ye observe this day throughout your generations by an ordinance for ever.

That wasn't addressed to gentiles, was it?

 

[Jipsah]

Seventh-day Adventists teach that the near the end of time the "mark of the best" of Revelation 14 will be placed upon those who worship on Sunday instead of Saturday.

So they tell us, ad infinitum.

 

[Jipsah]

how are you going to accept this mark on your hand or forehead?

You use a Sharpie

 

[Jipsah]

Saturday is the seventh day of the week:

Yep.

 

[Jipsah]

Just second guess it when you see it happen.

Waiting with bated breath.

 

[Jipsah]

The mark of the beast is and will not be a day of worship. It will be a literal mark on the hand or forehead. A form of transhumanism. Clay and iron. Flesh and machine. Satan wants to be like the Most High, but he can’t do that without technology. He wants to dwell in the temple of God (the human body) and how else will he accomplish that? Like in the days of Noah. Fallen angels (sons of God) mixing getting with the daughters of man. The human genome being corrupt. Hybrid, Nephilim. Think about it! Those who take the mark drink from the cup of the wrath of God poured out without mixture. The mark will be something unreversable. An rfid chip? Unless there is more to it, that can be dug out. Think CRISPR.

Science fiction.

 

[klutedavid]

Notice that there are three things in this verse separated by OR


Revelation 13:17
And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Which Bible translation are you referring to?

Most Bible translations do not have the three occurrences of "OR" in the text. Because the Greek text does not have the three occurrences of "OR".

Therefore, your interpretation of the text (Revelation 13:17) is translation specific. In other words, the interpretation that the SDA applies to the scripture is based on the KJV. Anyone who uses another translation of the scripture must be wrong.

Truly astounding!

 

[ViaCrucis]

One one do a search on the "first day of the week" it is mentioned 8 times in the new testament but the "sabbath" is mentioned 55 times.

Jesus as his custom was observed the sabbath. Jesus had every opprtunity to change the day. He even had 40 days after his ressurection to change. After he ascended to heaven he did not tell Paul to change it because he observed the sabbath.

How we worship God matters. Look at Nadab and Abihu in Leviticus 10:1-2. 1 Kings 12:26-33 is a story of Jereboam changing Gods holy days. The whole book of Leviticus is very very detailed on how God wants to be worshipped.

We would do well to obey God. Think about it brother.

Our Lord Jesus Christ observed all of the Jewish rites and practices, He even celebrated Hanukkah even though it is not commanded in the Torah. That does not mean that we have to. He is the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world, by whose shed blood and perfect atoning work has brought new covenant between man and God by His own Self-offering of Himself as perfect Lamb and Great High Priest of the new and better things.

If you want to observe the Sabbath, feel free to do so. Just don't judge those of us who don't, because there exists no command from God in the New Covenant for the Faithful to observe the Sabbath or any of the former rites and observances of the former things.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Rebekah Shafer]

There are many many people who believe that the papacy is the Antichrist. Luther, Calvin, Wesley, and Spurgeon to name a few.