Is the fundamental gap between creationists and non-creationists...

[AV1611VET]

Right. That makes me a theistic evolutionist, not a creationist.

Let me post that again, with emphasis:

Theistic evolution, theistic evolutionism, evolutionary creationism, or God-guided evolution are views that regard religious teachings about God as compatible with modern scientific understanding about biological evolution.

 

[VirOptimus]

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I can't figure those out either, but I'm not too proud that I can't admit that I'm an idjit.
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Holy tripple negation Batman!

 

[disciple Clint]

See: Quirks and Glitches of the Human Body | Nathan Lents

Our body is not made in the image of God who is a spirit by the way

 

[disciple Clint]

I'm thankful we serve a God who can defy all logic and is so far above our best minds.

When I see educated people who can't figure out what life is, design is, or whatever is, I get goosebumps.

I can't figure those out either, but I'm not too proud that I can't admit that I'm an idjit.

I wear my ignorance like a badge.

Educated people are not having trouble figuring out things they are simply ignoring those facts that do not serve their needs.

 

[AV1611VET]

Educated people are not having trouble figuring out things they are simply ignoring those facts that do not serve their needs.

Yup ... it's like they have been taught to create a blacklist of terms that are unacceptable in life.

 

[Speedwell]

Educated people are not having trouble figuring out things they are simply ignoring those facts that do not serve their needs.

Are you ever going to address the OP?

 

[Astrid]

Educated people are not having trouble figuring out things they are simply ignoring those facts that do not serve their needs.

Meeting some educated people might be a terrif help getting to know what they are really like.
It's a normal human tendency to ignore the inconvrnient but fundys think it is a highest virtue, instead of trying to improve themselves.
For anyone in a position of responsibility, or any researcher, it's a shortcut to disaster to behave so.

 

[AV1611VET]

Are you ever going to address the OP?

I will.

Q: Is the fundamental gap between creationists and non-creationists a disagreement over basic reality?
A: Yes.

Next question?

 

[AV1611VET]

Meeting ome educated people might be a terrif help getting to know what they are really like.
It's a normal human tendency to ignore the inconvrnient but fundys think it is a highest virtue, instead of trying to improve themselves.
For anyone in a position of responsibility, or any researcher, it's a shortcut to disaster to behave so.

I loave it wen sumwon itemps to tell us how we need moar ejucation, an shud falla the sientifick methud an all, without provreeding their poasts foar speling errers.

 

[Frank Robert]

Let me post that again, with emphasis:

This along the same lines that I previously posted.

Imagine a scale of evolution from YEC creationism with very little with only micro evolution to OEC to God-guided theistic evolution to God's laws of nature to finally laws of nature from naturalism without a creator God.

 

[Speedwell]

This along the same lines that I previously posted.

Imagine a scale of evolution from YEC creationism with very little with only micro evolution to OEC to God-guided theistic evolution to God's laws of nature to finally laws of nature from naturalism without a creator God.

It's one-dimensional and seems to rule out the possibility of God acting causally in any other way than in the material plane along with natural forces.

 

[Frank Robert]

Our body is not made in the image of God who is a spirit by the way

That is religion not science. I am not saying that either one trumps the other, they are different approaches that are not incomparable.

 

[Frank Robert]

It's one-dimensional and seems to rule out the possibility of God acting causally in any other way than in the material plane along with natural forces.

The scale does not rule out either God or natural forces, individuals rule them in or out according to their beliefs and/or what they accept as evidence.

 

[AV1611VET]

This along the same lines that I previously posted.

Imagine a scale of evolution from YEC creationism with very little with only micro evolution to OEC to God-guided theistic evolution to God's laws of nature to finally laws of nature from naturalism without a creator God.

 

[Frank Robert]

Our body is not made in the image of God who is a spirit by the way

That is a good clarification.

 

[AV1611VET]

Our body is not made in the image of God who is a spirit by the way

What's this then?

Genesis 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

 

[Frank Robert]

It is simply a scale from observation of belief to non-belief and from acceptance to non-acceptance of evolutionary evidence. Anyone should be able to place themselves somewhere on the scale.

 

[Astrid]

It is simply a scale from observation of belief to non-belief and from acceptance to non-acceptance of evolutionary evidence. Anyone should be able to place themselves somewhere on the scale.

Those are symptoms, what about whats behind it.

 

[AV1611VET]

It is simply a scale from observation of belief to non-belief and from acceptance to non-acceptance of evolutionary evidence. Anyone should be able to place themselves somewhere on the scale.

I was simply pointing out to someone who said he wasn't a creationist that Wikipedia disagrees with him.

 

[Frank Robert]

I was simply pointing out to someone who said he wasn't a creationist that Wikipedia disagrees with him.

I am likely using the same criteria to correlate beliefs and acceptance.