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Is the fundamental gap between creationists and non-creationists...

disciple Clint

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Can you show me the exact wording you are talking about, general answers are not helpful as evidence. I would be shocked that over all these years no one would have raised your objection about the coins, there were Jewish scholars reviewing everything that claimed to support that Jesus was God.
 
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They play games with radiometric dating, to get the age that they want something to be.

C14 is particularly unreliable due to the degradation of the earths magnetic field.

They play games with all sorts of things.
1 Corinthians 3:19
For the wisdom of this world is foolishness in God's sight. As it is written: "He catches the wise in their craftiness"
 
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The Jews of the time would consider the practice idolatry.
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Let's get back to the coin(s) dilemma. I would quote the greatest specialist in this field, Prof. L.Y. Rahamni (Chief Curator of the Israel Department of Antiquities and Museums):

"No coins of the period 50 B.C. to 70 A.D. were found in any tomb. In the first century Jewish Palestine theplacing of the coins was looked upon as idolatry; there was only a Greco-Roman custom according to which a coin was placed in the mouth of the deceased, so that he could pay Charon for conveying his shades across the Styx. Prof. N. Avigad of the Hebrew University, who excavated a great many of tombs of the period in question, in and around Jerusalem, and Mr. A. Kloner, District Archeologist, who has lately had a great practical experience in this field, confirmed to me this scarcity of even one coin in such tombs. If at all encountered inside a tomb, such a stray coin has been found in the debris and not even in the tomb's loculi. It may be added that no coins have been reported from inside a Jewish ossuary nor does such a custom exist at the time at all. No archeological or literary evidence exists from the 1st century A.D. fro a custom of covering the eyes of the deceased with coins, then the existence of such a custom from the same period must be denied."
Doubts Concerning the Coins Over the Eyes
 
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No, it isn't.

Because it's the study of how organic chemistry increases in complexity and about mechanisms for the beginning of replicators.

These are factual avenues of research with measurable results.

There are no successful results.

No one is close to creating DNA, RNA, or a precursor to RNA under prebiotic conditions.

In fact information theory has proven the impossibility of a random assembling of amino acids into a living cell, ever.

Organic chemistry professor James Tour exposes the facts:

 
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There are no successful results.

No one is close to creating DNA, RNA, or a precursor to RNA under prebiotic conditions.
Hachimoji DNA:
 
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That’s laughable. Do you not understand that no one is even close to making a living cell under ideal laboratory conditions, let alone prebiotic conditions?
Scientists create simple synthetic cell that grows and divides normally:
.. more work done since then:
 
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No one is even remotely close to making functional DNA under any conceivable PREBIOTIC CONDITIONS.
Who says DNA/RNA had to come first?:
Origins of life? Discovery could help explain how first organisms emerged on Earth:
.. conclusion:
 
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Abiogenesis research is spontaneous generation of life, all over again, and is just as bogus.
It appears that you do not even understand what Pasteur demonstrated with his "Law of Biogenesis". Most creationists do not either. All he proved is that in a limited time modern day bacteria do not form in a solution of sterilized and sealed broth. He did not disprove abiogenesis.
 
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No one is even remotely close to making functional DNA under any conceivable PREBIOTIC CONDITIONS.

I suggest you watch the video by synthetic organic Professor James Tour.
Are you talking about the video where he was caught lying so badly that he apologized to Nobel laureate Jack Szostak?
 
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Organic chemistry professor James Tour exposes the facts:
James Tour:
He is a Professor of Chemistry, Professor of Materials Science and NanoEngineering, and Professor of Computer Science at Rice University in Houston, Texas.
Basically a materials scientist who rejects ID:
Tour's work is primarily focused on carbon materials chemistry and nanotechnology.
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We need ta see that one!
There is no video of the apology itself, but the fact of it is supported by both sides. His video was rather awful. I will have to see if I can find the video of another chemist who demonstrates how Tour lied.
 
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Amino acids aren't a precursor to RNA?

No one is claiming to have demonstrated either a new abiogenesis or what the original was... I was pointing out your lie about the "Law of Biogenesis" somehow disproving the possibility of abiogenesis.
 
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The shroud

The odds of this First Century Palestinian burial shroud—with the unique features of Jesus’ crucifixion and resurrection—being that of anyone but Jesus is exceedingly remote. Inasmuch as the image is not a forgery, and it originated from a real person living at the time of Jesus, crucified in the unique way of Jesus, and producing a burst of intense vacuum ultraviolet radiation from his decomposing body, who else would it be? Given all this, we might reasonably infer that the Shroud is the burial cloth of Jesus which contains not only a relic of his crucifixion, but also his resurrection in glory. If so, it shows both the truth of the most significant event in human history as well as the accuracy of the Gospel accounts of it. The 7 Essential Modules - Credible Catholic
 
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