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Maybe we do not agree on what intelligent design is. I believe that God specifically designed the universe and the earth to make it fit man's needs. what is your concept?Yes, that is all very well, and is only a very slight misrepresentation of Penrose (who is an atheist) but it has nothing whatever to do with Intelligent Design.
see post 241What a fib. You have provided NO evidence of ID. You haven't even discussed it except to claim that you have evidence of it, and then you go back to quoting Father Spitzer who doesn't even believe in ID much less provide any evidence of it.
What are you up to here? You claim to have evidence of ID, you provide evidence which has nothing to do with ID and want us to refute it? Why? So you can go off boasting you presented evidence of ID which we couldn't refute?
I see anyone who does not agree with you is uneducated. Has absolutely noting to do with incomplete sentences that have no context.
Intelligent Design is a conjecture about biological life which rests on the assumption that the evolutionary process of variation and natural selection is not sufficient in all cases to produce the functional complexity which we observe in nature, that some biological structures would have required the intervention of an intelligent designer. ID does not treat of cosmology and just saying "God designed the universe" is not ID. ID is a specific proposal of the Discovery Institute of Seattle intended as a "wedge" (their language, not mine) to eventually force biblical creationism into public school science instruction alongside or even instead of biological evolution.Maybe we do not agree on what intelligent design is. I believe that God specifically designed the universe and the earth to make it fit man's needs. what is your concept?
Did they happily fall for Nebraska Man?I'd never trust myself to buy a used car, but clueless creationists happily fall for anything. "Paluxy man tracks "
Ask God! Hebrews 11:1 (NET 2.1), "Now faith is being sure of what we hope for, being convinced of what we do not see."
Believe me, if it's the Holy Spirit "telling" you the truth you will know it.
Death itself is due to the brokeness of a cursed world. If the person who " dies" is saved, there's really no need to be sad. The sadness is for us, not them.Do you have the right person here in your reply?
I've not ever communicated with you as far as I can remember, though there is the possibility somewhere maybe.
What caused me to respond to renniks post is the idea of imperfection and brokenness associated with sadness as it pertains to the death of someone. I have the hardest time understanding that kind of thought think. So I added my own thoughts.
Death itself is due to the brokeness of a cursed world. If the person who " dies" is saved, there's really no need to be sad. The sadness is for us, not them.
Solomon says the day of mourning is better. What does he mean?
Seems we are both right so my evidence is relevant to our discussion and provides evidence of intelligent design.Intelligent Design is a conjecture about biological life which rests on the assumption that the evolutionary process of variation and natural selection is not sufficient in all cases to produce the functional complexity which we observe in nature, that some biological structures would have required the intervention of an intelligent designer. ID does not treat of cosmology and just saying "God designed the universe" is not ID. ID is a specific proposal of the Discovery Institute of Seattle intended as a "wedge" (their language, not mine) to eventually force biblical creationism into public school science instruction alongside or even instead of biological evolution.
Did you believe him?A Mormon doing missionary work in China told
me he knew the whole Joseph Smith / gold book story was true because God unmistakably told him
it is all true.
Sort of, although "fine tuning" arguments of the Kind Fr. Spitzer makes are not unique or specific to ID, which in any case the Roman Catholic church has rejected. If you really want to argue against ID you will have to start talking about such things as "specified information" and "irreducible complexity." ID is really about evolution.Seems we are both right so my evidence is relevant to our discussion and provides evidence of intelligent design.
Do creationists live in a bubble? ID is not science.Seems we are both right so my evidence is relevant to our discussion and provides evidence of intelligent design.
" Intelligent Design has been defined by its proponents as the idea that "certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause." This "intelligent cause" is often assumed to be God. Despite this, some have tried to portray Intelligent Design as a fledgling scientific theory, almost ready to be embraced by mainstream science. Detractors have argued that Intelligent Design is nothing more than creationism in disguise." https://undsci.berkeley.edu/article/0_0_0/id_checklist
You do understand that according to Christian theology the world has been under a curse since the end of Eden? These are just the basics of our faith, that everyone should know if they are going to argue against it.So weird. God is perfect goodness but everything he made is bad?
That is a problem. An all knowing God is punishing the world for the sins of A & E that he knew before creating that they would fail his testing through the serpent.You do understand that according to Christian theology the world has been under a curse since the end of Eden? These are just the basics of our faith, that everyone should know if they are going to argue against it.
You do understand that according to Christian theology the world has been under a curse since the end of Eden? These are just the basics of our faith, that everyone should know if they are going to argue against it.
The Bible says that God said what He created is very good.So weird. God is perfect goodness but everything he made is bad?
The Bible says that God said what He created is very good.
It's just so weird to me that the Christian mind set is to go to the bad, the evil, the broken. When I look around, nature is wonderful, vibrant and alive with creativity and life.
This is my own reflection, mind you. But I truly do believe that if the basics of the Christian faith was "Love", that there would be absolutely nothing to argue against. But that's pretty hard to do when it's evil, the broken, the supposed curse and Satan that's being preached. That's just my take is all.You do understand that according to Christian theology the world has been under a curse since the end of Eden? These are just the basics of our faith, that everyone should know if they are going to argue against it.
It is, but but nature is also bloody and violent and cruel by humans standards. Nature has no standard of good or evil. And many people are also evil and hateful and cruel. That's just reality. If one doesn't see sin in this world, either he's deliberately ignoring it or he's given into it completely.The Bible says that God said what He created is very good.
It's just so weird to me that the Christian mind set is to go to the bad, the evil, the broken. When I look around, nature is wonderful, vibrant and alive with creativity and life.
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