Is the Earth Flat?

[The Liturgist]

So, you cancel flights because one pilot became disoriented and crashed? That, to me, is a very weak reason for canceling a program... based on one individual's issues..

Was there a reason discovered for this pilot's disorientation? What is special about Antarctica that would cause a disorientation? Are we going to see a flight for other destinations also canceled if a pilot has an issue?

Both pilots and the flight engineer (three men crew on the DC-10, and I can’t recall if there was also a check airman). They deviated from the predefined route to give the passengers a better view and became disoriented due to bad airmanship.

Also I would note that Concorde, which was profitable for Air France and massively profitable for British Airways, was nearly scrapped after Air France ran over a piece of metal from a Contintental DC-10 that had a tire problem on takeoff and crashed and burned, and three years later the program did end anyway due to declining traffic.

One crash can absolutely end a program in aviation if the problems are severe enough.

 

[Edwin Wright]

pter

Surprise, surprise, nothing at all in the above demonstrating any correlation between heliocentrism and evolutionism, just your bald assertion.

Heliocentrism is an obvious precursor to evolutionism given evolutionism's need for vast time periods (first posited by Lyell in relation to the (alleged) "evolution" of geological formations, and subsequently adopted by Darwin (via Lyell) in relation to (alleged) biological evolution. Darwin himself states in Chapter X (On the Imperfection of the Geological Record) of the Origin of Species (Great Books of the Western World), "He who can read Sir Charles Lyell’s grand work on the Principles of Geology, which the future historian will recognise as having produced a revolution in natural science, yet does not admit how vast have been the past periods of time, may at once close this volume."

As you know, some heliocentrists are evolutionists but ALL evolutionists are heliocentrists. Heliocentrism eventually led to Lemaître's Big Bang Theory that further extended those ridiculous time periods. Heliocentrism is all about vast time periods and naturalism, including evolution. I trust that this clarifies the matter.

 

[comana]

pter

Heliocentrism is an obvious precursor to evolutionism given evolutionism's need for vast time periods (first posited by Lyell in relation to the (alleged) "evolution" of geological formations, and subsequently adopted by Darwin (via Lyell) in relation to (alleged) biological evolution. Darwin himself states in Chapter X (On the Imperfection of the Geological Record) of the Origin of Species (Great Books of the Western World), "He who can read Sir Charles Lyell’s grand work on the Principles of Geology, which the future historian will recognise as having produced a revolution in natural science, yet does not admit how vast have been the past periods of time, may at once close this volume."

As you know, some heliocentrists are evolutionists but ALL evolutionists are heliocentrists. Heliocentrism eventually led to Lemaître's Big Bang Theory that further extended those ridiculous time periods. Heliocentrism is all about vast time periods and naturalism, including evolution. I trust that this clarifies the matter.

Really that is just the progression of scientific knowledge. The understanding of one thing leads to unlocking understanding of others.

You can choose to believe the world is flat. I doubt it will have any real negative effects. I will enjoy our tiny round ball orbiting the sun which is in turn making a great journey as our galaxy rotates within our vast a beautiful universe.

 

[Edwin Wright]

Both pilots and the flight engineer (three men crew on the DC-10, and I can’t recall if there was also a check airman). They deviated from the predefined route to give the passengers a better view and became disoriented due to bad airmanship.

Also I would note that Concorde, which was profitable for Air France and massively profitable for British Airways, was nearly scrapped after Air France ran over a piece of metal from a Contintental DC-10 that had a tire problem on takeoff and crashed and burned, and three years later the program did end anyway due to declining traffic.

One crash can absolutely end a program in aviation if the problems are severe enough.

Bottom line: With today's ETOP ratings, there is no obvious safety or economic reason not to have commercial transcontinental flights over Antarctica — not distance, not terrain, not weather, nothing. The (alleged) and (exclusively southern) transcontinental flights across vast stretches of the Southern Ocean would be much longer. But there is one reason — not obvious to heliocentrists — the adjoining, impenetrable firmament at the Southern Circumference, said firmament being kept under wraps by The Antarctic Treaty.

 

[Edwin Wright]

and in no way at all supports Flat Earth theory.

Au contraire, NASA's record of not really going anywhere is probably the biggest supporter of the stationary, planar earth.

 

[Edwin Wright]

Really that is just the progression of scientific knowledge. The understanding of one thing leads to unlocking understanding of others.

You can choose to believe the world is flat. I doubt it will have any real negative effects. I will enjoy our tiny round ball orbiting the sun which is in turn making a great journey as our galaxy rotates within our vast a beautiful universe.

Dream on.

 

[comana]

Bottom line: With today's ETOP ratings, there is no obvious safety or economic reason not to have commercial transcontinental flights over Antarctica — not distance, not terrain, not weather, nothing. The (alleged) and (exclusively southern) transcontinental flights across vast stretches of the Southern Ocean would be much longer. But there is one reason — not obvious to heliocentrists — the adjoining, impenetrable firmament at the Southern Circumference, said firmament being kept under wraps by The Antarctic Treaty.

According to flat earth maps, Antarctica is a massive ring. What authority has the manpower to patrol and keep the curious adventurers from fine this firmament?

 

[Edwin Wright]

According to flat earth maps, Antarctica is a massive ring. What authority has the manpower to patrol and keep the curious adventurers from fine this firmament?

The 56 nations that (as of February 2023) are Parties to the Treaty.

 

[comana]

The 56 nations that (as of February 2023) are Parties to the Treaty.

How are they stopping anyone from going where they please? Where are the reports from flat earth expeditions being turned away.

With 56 nations involved, it’s gonna be hard to stop leaks about the “truth” getting out.

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

Au contraire, NASA's record of not really going anywhere is probably the biggest supporter of the stationary, planar earth.

Dream on

 

[Edwin Wright]

How are they stopping anyone from going where they please? Where are the reports from flat earth expeditions being turned away.

With 56 nations involved, it’s gonna be hard to stop leaks about the “truth” getting out.

Not really. You need to educate yourself about those who have been really running this world and how they are able to hide the truth.

 

[prodromos]

Bottom line: With today's ETOP ratings, there is no obvious safety or economic reason not to have commercial transcontinental flights over Antarctica — not distance, not terrain, not weather, nothing. The (alleged) and (exclusively southern) transcontinental flights across vast stretches of the Southern Ocean would be much longer. But there is one reason — not obvious to heliocentrists — the adjoining, impenetrable firmament at the Southern Circumference, said firmament being kept under wraps by The Antarctic Treaty.

The only flight that would actually cross Antarctica would be the flight proposed by Norwegian Air Argentina to go direct between Buenos Aires and Perth. The route was approved but there was never enough potential traffic to justify the flights. Airlines don't make money if their planes are only half full.

While we are on the subject of flights, please explain why the flight between Sydney and Santiago takes 13h 25m while Sydney to Shanghai takes 10h 20m. Why does Sydney to Los Angeles take 20m longer than the flight to Santiago?

 

[Lazy and Tired]

Au contraire, NASA's record of not really going anywhere is probably the biggest supporter of the stationary, planar earth.

As a person that works at NASA, I am tickled pink at being accused of being part of a conspiracy to hide the flat Earth.

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

Not really. You need to educate yourself about those who have been really running this world and how they are able to hide the truth.

That would be great . Please begin that education for us. Give us more sources and "facts".

 

[Lost4words]

how do you know that?

Its on YouTube so it must be a fact! Lol

 

[prodromos]

According to flat earth maps, Antarctica is a massive ring. What authority has the manpower to patrol and keep the curious adventurers from fine this firmament?

Louis Rudd and Colin O'Brady managed to cover the following distance in under two months while each dragging a 100kg sled with their supplies. All they would need is a couple more people and they should be able to patrol the coastline easily

 

[comana]

Not really. You need to educate yourself about those who have been really running this world and how they are able to hide the truth.

I have worked for a satellite related company. My son and a good friends are currently working with satellites. You’re trying to convince me that decades of technological advancement, multi-billion dollar industries, the science of astrodynamics and orbital mechanics are all a lie and that I need to get “educated” about by conspiracy bloggers.

There is no credibility to the flat earth argument.

 

[Edwin Wright]

The only flight that would actually cross Antarctica would be the flight proposed by Norwegian Air Argentina to go direct between Buenos Aires and Perth. The route was approved but there was never enough potential traffic to justify the flights. Airlines don't make money if their planes are only half full.

While we are on the subject of flights, please explain why the flight between Sydney and Santiago takes 13h 25m while Sydney to Shanghai takes 10h 20m. Why does Sydney to Los Angeles take 20m longer than the flight to Santiago?

Have you actually taken a flight from Sydney to Santiago, and if you did or know others that have, can you obtain independent scientific confirmation of the actual route, speed, tailwinds, and other such manifestations? If not, then you're just looking at a schedule.

 

[Edwin Wright]

As a person that works at NASA, I am tickled pink at being accused of being part of a conspiracy to hide the flat Earth.

I don't think you got the joke.

 

[comana]

Have you actually taken a flight from Sydney to Santiago, and if you did or know others that have, can you obtain independent scientific confirmation of the actual route, speed, tailwinds, and other such manifestations? If not, then you're just looking at a schedule.

This seems like an easy thing for a flat earth believer to do. Book a flight and see for themselves.