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Is the Earth Flat?

Degrees of Earth flatness:

  • It's not flat. It's a giant, spinning spaceball.

    Votes: 90 82.6%
  • It's flat, but all the other planets are giant, spinning spaceballs.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • It's flat, and a dome surrounds it.

    Votes: 5 4.6%
  • It's flat, a dome surrounds it, and the Earth is the center of the universe.

    Votes: 5 4.6%
  • It's flat, domed, and planets/stars are actually illusions/objects in the dome.

    Votes: 1 0.9%
  • It's all of the above, and the government is covering it all up at the behest of Satan.

    Votes: 8 7.3%

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The moon is not a reflected light source; it is a distinct luminary. Scripture is definitive on this point. See THE MOON (Part I).
Your opinion of what is definitive in scripture is highly suspect, especially considering what we see with direct observations of the Moon.
 
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Your opinion of what is definitive in scripture is highly suspect, especially considering what we see with direct observations of the Moon.
Please elaborate, and by the way, it is unnecessary to include ad hominem phrases in your responses.
 
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Please elaborate, and by the way, it is unnecessary to include ad hominem phrases in your responses.
The Sun is very bright. It emits a lot of light. One would expect light from the Sun to reflect off the Moon. By amazing coincidence, if we plot out the orbit of the Moon with respect to the Earth and Sun according to the law of gravity, the phases of the Moon match up exactly to what we would expect of the Moon reflecting sunlight. The parts of the Moon that are not in view of the Sun are dark, as one would expect if the Moon isn't producing its own light.

Then of course there are all the measuring instruments we can point at the Moon to determine how much light the Moon is actually producing on its own, which is no light at all.
 
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The Sun is very bright. It emits a lot of light. One would expect light from the Sun to reflect off the Moon. By amazing coincidence, if we plot out the orbit of the Moon with respect to the Earth and Sun according to the law of gravity, the phases of the Moon match up exactly to what we would expect of the Moon reflecting sunlight. The parts of the Moon that are not in view of the Sun are dark, as one would expect if the Moon isn't producing its own light.

Then of course there are all the measuring instruments we can point at the Moon to determine how much light the Moon is actually producing on its own, which is no light at all.
I would like to know how said measuring instruments objectively distinguish between generative and reflective light.
 
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I would like to know how said measuring instruments objectively distinguish between generative and reflective light.
First off, we measure the amount of light to be exactly what we expect to be from reflected sunlight, No more, no less.

Second, spectroscopy is used to analyze the interaction of the sunlight with the surface of the Moon. The light is altered as it is reflected, which allows us to determine the composition of the Moon's surface. Light magically emitted from the Moon wouldn't have the same distribution of wavelengths and frequencies.
 
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The moon is not a reflected light source; it is a distinct luminary. Scripture is definitive on this point. See THE MOON (Part I).
Nope. The Scripture says nothing about where moonlight comes from. You infer that it must mean that the moon produces light itself. The inference is entirely yours, and it is obviously incorrect.
 
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I would like to know how said measuring instruments objectively distinguish between generative and reflective light.
Then Google is your friend, and you'll find no dearth of information to help you. But again, it won't help your propensity to infer stuff from Scripture that simply isn't there.
 
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Please elaborate, and by the way, it is unnecessary to include ad hominem phrases in your responses.
There weren't any there. Inference again; "reading between the lines".
 
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Please elaborate, and by the way, it is unnecessary to include ad hominem phrases in your responses.
Please elaborate on what part of his response was ad hominem.
 
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First off, we measure the amount of light to be exactly what we expect to be from reflected sunlight, No more, no less.

Second, spectroscopy is used to analyze the interaction of the sunlight with the surface of the Moon. The light is altered as it is reflected, which allows us to determine the composition of the Moon's surface. Light magically emitted from the Moon wouldn't have the same distribution of wavelengths and frequencies.
The measured amount of light ascribed as reflective as well as spectrographic results being attributed to surface composition are indirect inferences based on unprovable heliocentric assumptions (including the assumption that the moon is a solid mass), and hence, do not constitute definitive, scientific evidence concerning the genesis and fundamental nature of moonlight.
 
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The measured amount of light ascribed as reflective as well as spectrographic results being attributed to surface composition are indirect inferences based on unprovable heliocentric assumptions (including the assumption that the moon is a solid mass), and hence, do not constitute definitive, scientific evidence concerning the genesis and fundamental nature of moonlight.
I'm sure astronomers and astrophysicists everywhere will take your esteemed assessment into account.
 
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The measured amount of light ascribed as reflective as well as spectrographic results being attributed to surface composition are indirect inferences based on unprovable heliocentric assumptions (including the assumption that the moon is a solid mass), and hence, do not constitute definitive, scientific evidence concerning the genesis and fundamental nature of moonlight.
That, as they say in London, is a load of cobblers
 
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I would like to know how said measuring instruments objectively distinguish between generative and reflective light.

You look at the moon when the full side facing you is not facing the Sun (ie a new Moon) with an infrared spectrometer.
 
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I would like to know how said measuring instruments objectively distinguish between generative and reflective light.
Albedo is a measure of reflectivity. I

The albedo is estimated by measuring the solar radiation reflected from a region of Earth and comparing that with the insolation. The global mean, or planetary, albedo of Earth is about 29%.

 
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