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Is the Earth Flat?

Degrees of Earth flatness:

  • It's not flat. It's a giant, spinning spaceball.

    Votes: 90 82.6%
  • It's flat, but all the other planets are giant, spinning spaceballs.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • It's flat, and a dome surrounds it.

    Votes: 5 4.6%
  • It's flat, a dome surrounds it, and the Earth is the center of the universe.

    Votes: 5 4.6%
  • It's flat, domed, and planets/stars are actually illusions/objects in the dome.

    Votes: 1 0.9%
  • It's all of the above, and the government is covering it all up at the behest of Satan.

    Votes: 8 7.3%

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I learned about aerial perspective in art class in 1966. But you were trying to pull the wool over everyone's eyes by claiming that it was "jus like" (sic) the effect of a ship disappearing on the horizon. You just didn't expect anyone to call you on it.

No, we don't have to even leave objects on the earth's surface to prove that the planet is spheroidal. As I said, the ancient Greeks proved it 2300 years ago...and the early Church believed it, too.

Right i was really trying to deceive people by stating that what is being seen is a result of visual perspective instead of the curve lie science feeds humanity.

Right, pagan greeks really knew about God's creation, even more so than God.

I wonder if They knew God placed the two great lights (sun and moon) and stars He created in the raqia, that is separating two bodies of water. And that in this raqia where the sun, moon and stars are located, is the location also, where birds fly across the face of the raqia.

Or that God has set the earth on foundation's so that it can not be moved.

Or that God has laid out the earth above the waters
 
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It does look like a dummy alright.

I also noticed from one photo to another one. There appears this red cloth after it has been on the ground for awhile.

No red cloth
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Now there is a red cloth
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I also noticed from one photo to another one. There appears this red cloth after it has been on the ground for awhile.

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Now there is a red cloth
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That looks suspicious alright. There's no doubt this can be faked. The question is, is everyone who gets invited to go on one of these things, going to lie about their experience? And then the there's the next waves of passengers who will be paying a hefty fee to take a ride. Can they all be counted on to shell out big bucks to go on a fake rocket ride and then lie about their experience?
 
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Many private citizens have seen the curvature of the earth in high altitude commercial planes (the Concord flew at 60,00 feet for example).

Well, according to the mainstream boffins like de Grasse Tyson, 60k feet is not enough to see any curvature. I suggest that relying on naked eyes is not the most accurate scientific method, even if they are of the ultra-zoom variety.

And then there's all the non-government non-NASA private citizens who have gone into space via Blue Origin who have seen a spherical earth.

Oh Branson's mates, and the urchin Amazon guy, don't they just ooze credibility?

And that number is going increase greatly as buying a ticket for a short space flight becomes available.

I wouldn't suggest you pre-purchase your ticket.
 
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I'm not saying I thought it was an alien space craft. But what else besides a satellite could it be? It definitely wasn't a weather balloon. It had the shape of a satellite. I had 20/20 plus vision at the time via eyeglasses. My coworker was just as bewildered by what we were seeing at first too. After looking at it hovering in the sky for a while I said, "it must be a satellite".

Satellites don't hover, says the dogma, they freefall at enormous speeds, the closer ones are the fastest - something like Mach 20 from memory. The geostationary orbits are 32,000 miles out, and I'm not doubting the quality of your vision, but...

Feel free to check my numbers, it's been a while.

My six years older brother was a total space geek. He had lunar module models and diagrams etc. So my knowledge regarding its construction is a bit deeper than the average person. Plus with him practically being a genius when it comes to aeronautics and such, he would have picked up on it being structurally incapable of doing its job if that had been the case.

It's amazing what indoctrination can make a smart guy overlook/ assume. I daresay he wasn't looking with a critical eye.

Are you thinking the LM and satellite you posted a picture of look flimsy because it looks like they're made of foil? That's just mylar wrapped around them to provide thermal insulation. Blankets that look like they're made of foil, are really a sheet if mylar. The LM was wrapped in several sheets of mylar. Mylar is a lot tougher than it looks. Mylar blanket image.

Flimsy is the right euphemism. You might find a high res image of that lunar lander and zoom in close on all the parts, the joins and so on. It's really the classic B-grade movie set piece.

Shepard is just a very common surname that's a variation of shepherd. There were many sheep hearders, just as there were many blacksmiths, hence Smith also being a very common surname.

Of course, just another meaningless coincidence in God's accidental universe. Golf shot! Hilarious.
 
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We've debunked this before.

And I suppose that's why they call you 'the prodromos'.

Say, haven't we debunked the spinning waterball in negative space nonsense 490 times before? Yet you guys just keep coming back empty.
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The boat is not getting smaller it’s about line of sight.

This one sentence by you, shows me i am wasting my time with you. If you believe that objects do not get smaller as they travel away from the observer. Then no wonder you believe in all these science lies.

The bottom of the boat isn’t getting any smaller than the top of it. If you can still see the top of the boat then you should still be able to see the bottom of it. The reason you can’t see the bottom of it is because the water is blocking your view. Like I said from an elevated position in order for the water to block your view of the bottom of the boat it has to be high enough to break the line of sight so if your 50 feet higher than the water and you can only see the top half of the boat then that would mean that the water would have to be 25 feet or higher than sea level.
 
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That looks suspicious alright. There's no doubt this can be faked. The question is, is everyone who gets invited to go on one of these things, going to lie about their experience? And then the there's the next waves of passengers who will be paying a hefty fee to take a ride. Can they all be counted on to shell out big bucks to go on a fake rocket ride and then lie about their experience?

We are in the age of satan and he does deceive the whole world. So really what is true besides what is found in The Bible. I have found out really how trusting of man people are, in many cases even more so than The Bible. They would rather adjust The Bible to fit science than to have to say, hey may be this is a lie of government, science or man.

People love to believe that man is really accomplishing all these seemingly heroic feats. I can see than from a non believer (placing faith in man) but what has been surprising how many believers are right in there with the unbelievers, placing their faith in man.
 
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The bottom of the boat isn’t getting any smaller than the top of it. If you can still see the top of the boat then you should still be able to see the bottom of it. The reason you can’t see the bottom of it is because the water is blocking your view. Like I said from an elevated position in order for the water to block your view of the bottom of the boat it has to be high enough to break the line of sight so if your 50 feet higher than the water and you can only see the top half of the boat then that would mean that the water would have to be 25 feet or higher than sea level.

What are you talking about who ever said one part of a boat is getting smaller than the other part. Where do you come up with all this.
 
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People love to believe that man is really accomplishing all these seemingly heroic feats.

Then he answered and spake unto me, saying, This is the word of the LORD unto Zerubbabel, saying, Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the LORD of hosts. (Zech 4:6)

Side note - apparently the name Zerubbabel means 'melted by Babylon'. If he was God's hand to build the Temple, how much more those who are purified in God's furnace.
 
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What are you talking about who ever said one part of a boat is getting smaller than the other part. Where do you come up with all this.

Your point is that you can’t see the bottom of the boat because it’s getting smaller but if I can still see the top of it then I should be able to see the bottom unless something is blocking my view.
 
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We are in the age of satan and he does deceive the whole world. So really what is true besides what is found in The Bible. I have found out really how trusting of man people are, in many cases even more so than The Bible. They would rather adjust The Bible to fit science than to have to say, hey may be this is a lie of government, science or man.

People love to believe that man is really accomplishing all these seemingly heroic feats. I can see than from a non believer (placing faith in man) but what has been surprising how many believers are right in there with the unbelievers, placing their faith in man.

Why has satan put so much monumental work into a spherical world hoax?
 
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Your point is that you can’t see the bottom of the boat because it’s getting smaller but if I can still see the top of it then I should be able to see the bottom unless something is blocking my view.


I have stated before, that water would have to to be perfectly still/calm for it to be absolutely flat. When you speak of a boat on water you are not seeing a absolutely calm flat surface. Especially if this is in an ocean or even a large lake water has movement

 
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Why has satan put so much monumental work into a spherical world hoax?

Of course this is just my thoughts, you may not agree at all.

Well for one he is a liar and for another he deceives the whole world. What better way to work a deception than to attack The Bible and bring into question the very first chapter of The Bible.

By offering up a counter fit creation, other than what is seen and described in The Bible. In away i see it similar as to the coming deception that satan will offer up in the tribulation the counter fit unholy trinity.

I often wonder how many atheist have been birthed when they see what The Bible describes as creation compared to sciences version. And now evolution is thrown into the creation deception (what the last 200+ years).

A globe earth first came from pagan greeks i am sure it delights satan (as he is the accuser of believers to God) that he can say he has believers believing in his creation lie over God's creation truth in The Bible.
 
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Why has satan put so much monumental work into a spherical world hoax?

I will also add i believe that if Jesus return does not happen for another 100 years. I believe eventually evolution will be accepted into the churches, like the globe earth, outer space, etc.. is now.

May be not all, but i believe it will eventually become a large majority of churches.
 
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I was watching a video on flat earth theory. And the explanation for gravity was that the earth is in an upward acceleration. But that doesn't hold with what I'm reading here that the earth is stationary. So what is the explanation for gravity existing on a stationary earth?

Also if the sun is close to the earth, why doesn't it appear larger at high altitude? Is there a flat earth calculation for how far above the earth the sun and moon are?
 
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I was watching a video on flat earth theory. And the explanation for gravity was that the earth is in an upward acceleration. But that doesn't hold with what I'm reading here that the earth is stationary. So what is the explanation for gravity existing on a stationary earth?

Also if the sun is close to the earth, why doesn't it appear larger at high altitude? Is there a flat earth calculation for how far above the earth the sun and moon are?

Take your satanic science elsewhere, the holy truth of Bronze Age sheep herders reigns here.
 
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Sorry bro, I'm just not seeing it so far. I looked at 15 verses that some say the earth is flat, but none of them gave me pause. Unlike UR verses for instance.
There is no statement in scriptures which says that the earth is flat. The closest that we get to such a comprehensive description ... is that the earth is like a circle ...

Isaiah 40:22 It is He that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:
 
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