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To say the Earth is flat is reducing/limiting the powers of God
That is right i forgot, man is this perfect little created creation that never lies, especially the ones in government.
That is right i forgot, man is this perfect little created creation that never lies, especially the ones in government.
I'm not seeing the world being flat in that. Rather it sounds more to me like gyroscopic gravitation which keeps a spinning sphere from wobbling.
Why would every government that has a satellite up in space need to lie about the earth being flat? There's thousands of people who monitor the telemetry of hundreds of satellites in space circling the earth.
Why would every government that has a satellite up in space need to lie about the earth being flat? There's thousands of people who monitor the telemetry of hundreds of satellites in space circling the earth.
That was a reference to the motion of earth, low hanging fruit lol. Clearly at odds with scripture.
Let me try one on shape:
Contra
It is funny how you will say (write) what you just said, as gospel truth. In reality all you are doing is repeating either what you have read or watched on tv or a computer, and actually have no personal proof that what you believe (said/wrote) is true.
I am sure the same can be said, that you more than likely believe that men have traveled to the moon, etc...
With that said, now you will take areas of The Bible and bend them all sorts of ways to match science version of creation. Instead of simply taking the accounts given in The Bible as they are.
This quote is on Wiki... the "flat disk with upturned edges"......well, it was but keeps getting changed... I added it back several times.Try Auguste Piccard, pioneered 23km.
Auguste Piccard — The First Man to Reach the Stratosphere
Reported as describing the view of earth as 'a flat disc with upturned edge', possibly on an earlier flight.
Dr. Auguste Piccard’s Record-Breaking Balloon Flights
And what about Jesus Christ? Didn't the devil take him to an exceedingly high mountain to show him all the kingdoms of the earth?
Would that be the highest vantage point on earth mentioned in scripture?
Actually.... for a creator to create a "snow globe" terrarium, the size of this earth... Is still a feat of awesome power.To say the Earth is flat is reducing/limiting the powers of God
You mean one of these?
Forgive me, I am sitting in the seat of the scoffers. Look at that dinky rubbish lol. Almost as well-designed as this:
I hope you're aware that some 98% of international communications go via undersea cable?
What I know is you can see satellites from your backyard using a telescope. During daytime I saw a satellite once with my bare eyes. A coworker standing beside me saw it too. It was either a satellite or an alien spaceship. I went with satellite.
As for the moon landings, I've actually taken the skeptic's position on CF and other forums, so I'm not totally hopeless lol.
Sorry bro, I'm just not seeing it so far. I looked at 15 verses that some say the earth is flat, but none of them gave me pause. Unlike UR verses for instance.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.biblestudytools.com/topical-verses/bible-verses-about-flat-earth/?amp
Note that I'm not out to disprove it. Really it's more like I'm looking to be convinced.
Really? I don't know of any visible satellites, although there's supposed to be some 20,000+ man made objects orbiting earth. There are high altitude balloons, shooting stars, signs and wonders and other phenomena. But satellites?
Good eyes. Let's see, a satellite is maybe half the size of a commercial jetplane, and said to be anywhere from 400Km to 40000 km away (from memory). A jetplane cruising altitude is what, 3-6 km. At higher altitudes only the contrail is visible. Fair enough?
Good to hear you now have eyes to see the lunar lander for what it is: a grade school art project, or a homeless tweaker's shelter. Do you ever look at the moon nestled in the clouds and think 'Those clouds are 250,000 miles away?'
Well like I said, either the metallic object I saw was a satellite or it was an alien space vehicle.
I don't have any issues regarding the lunar lander.
I just question the ability to go to the moon several times in a row between 69 and 72, and it seeming totally impossible from that point forward for 50 years. From a 70s perspective, there was supposed to be a moon colony by 2000. They say it got too expensive to be able to go to the moon any longer, yet umpteen space shuttle missions were doable.
And the bottom line fact most everyone will agree on, is the main reason why the US went to the moon was to win the "space race" against the USSR.
Now while on one level I challenge moon landings, on another level I think it's just as unlikely they were faked.
In pre-modern societies, the flat and stationary earth was a given, it was so self-evident as to barely be worth mentioning. Scripture proceeds on the assumption of a flat, stationary and enclosed earth. None of the natural descriptions or figures of speech can work for the modern cosmology, which is based on the so-called 'Copernican Principle,' i.e. God loves them little Martians and Jesus was crucified and raised over there too, so whatever...
No rest day or night, no absolutes, man the measure of all things, a near-infinite material cosmos, stars are planets are pagan gods are galaxies, dreams of man's conquest, Big Bang etc etc...just Babylonian idolatry of the basest kind, sorcery and magic, science falsely so-called, foolish worldly wisdom.
If theology is king of sciences, then cosmology is its queen. And how well-matched is the god of eternal punishment with the goddess of the implacable cold dark wilderness.
Woe to you o earth and sea:
Globe earth mathematical calculations ... 666
It might be hard to persuade you otherwise. Say, you didn't happen to get abducted and impregnated by aliens by any chance? That was a fairly common experience in the 70s and 80s by all accounts.
Use those superzoom eyes to look at it closely..curtain rids, tinfoil, cardboard, ticky-tacky. Same as 'satellite' construction.
I especially liked that mission where they played golf on the moon. Remember that? 'Golf shot, Sheppard!' Even mocking Christ in the names they pick.
Most can agree, but it's not a fact. The 'Cold War' was just a lie for public consumption, the usual fear-based 'us and them' thing. You might need to read up on Prof Anthony Sutton's books on Wall St and the Bolshevik Revolution to really see the forensic proof - receipts, wire transfers, those sort of things, evidencing the controlling interests of international commercial cartels such as the Rockefellers and Standard Oil. Someone's got to finance these things, you know.
[Sigh!]
We've debunked this before.
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