TLK Valentine
I've already read the books you want burned.
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What benefits? The ability to see the Emperor's new clothes?
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Judging by your posts, I'd say YES.So it's okay to quench the Spirit and still expect to reap His benefits?
I'm actually going to give him credit for being saved.Now, now... you know he'd only say that because it's against forum rules to say what he really thinks: That you were never a Christian in the first place.
I'm actually going to give him credit for being saved.
Just like I do you.
Once saved, always save, eh?
Yes, I know that, unfortunately, you are correct. I also know that it is against forum rules to question the self-declared Christianity of members. As far as I am aware it is not against forum rules to remind everyone that Christianity carries a message of tolerance, love, brotherhood/sisterhood and humility. (As a non-Christian I don't need to adhere to the last one.You should know by now that morality takes a back seat to literalism... these people would be lost if anything in the Bible didn't actually happen.
Haven't we had this conversation before?What benefits?
Salvation is eternal.So it's okay to quench the Spirit and still expect to reap His benefits?
... and prayed for.And, as a non-Christian, I can suggest that tolerance, love, brotherhood/sisterhood, humility are much more important than a selfish concern for ones immortal soul. And for that I expect to be ignored, despised, and censured.
Haven't we had this conversation before?
Psalm 34:8 O taste and see that the LORD is good: blessed is the man that trusteth in him.
Psalm 51:12 Restore unto me the joy of thy salvation; and uphold me with thy free spirit.
Hebrews 6:4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
Hebrews 6:5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
Why did you gave all that up to become an agnostic?
Salvation is eternal.
Yes, I know that, unfortunately, you are correct. I also know that it is against forum rules to question the self-declared Christianity of members.
As far as I am aware it is not against forum rules to remind everyone that Christianity carries a message of tolerance, love, brotherhood/sisterhood and humility. (As a non-Christian I don't need to adhere to the last one.) And, as a non-Christian, I can suggest that tolerance, love, brotherhood/sisterhood, humility are much more important than a selfish concern for ones immortal soul. And for that I expect to be ignored, despised, and censured.
Nimrod did it; Solomon did it; Jesus' disciples did it ... what makes you an exception?Meaning the drug dealer, serial rapist, mass murdering dictator, or what-have-you need only repent once, at any point in their lives, and should they relapse later on and return to their sinful ways, well... no harm, no foul.
Then you're in the wrong place, aren't you?Generally I would prefer to be ignored, despised and censured.
Not really. Currently one member is refusing to address a pertinent question and he's not the first.Then you're in the wrong place, aren't you?
By way of "thanks, but no thanks"?I thank them all.
I have no idea why you would think that.By way of "thanks, but no thanks"?
That's not my perspective. They are fellow humans beings. Like all the Christians, Jews, Hindus, Taoists, Moslems, etc. and all the Australians, Vietnamese, Argentinians, etc. and all the men, women and children. The specific Christian members I referenced earlier I feel considerably closer to than I do a militant atheist like Dawkins, or a narcicistic buffon like Trump. But they are all fellow humans, with the strengths and weaknesses that typify our species.I'm glad you had a good experience with them ... they're your brothers & sisters in Christ ... of whom you've choosen for whatever reason to disown them.
I'm not playing that card. I was raised a Christian. I value the Christian ethical position. Leaving the religion is not a significant event in my life, since I took with me everything I found of value and integrity within it. But ask away, if it meets a need for you.But if you're going to play the BEEN THERE DONE THAT card with me, I'm going to ask some tough questions.
Then you were never saved in the first place? is that what you're saying?I'm not playing that card. I was raised a Christian. I value the Christian ethical position. Leaving the religion is not a significant event in my life, since I took with me everything I found of value and integrity within it. But ask away, if it meets a need for you.
No. I'm not saying that, though you appear to be. I've made no claim to have been saved, or not saved. You might interpret my posts to mean that I reject the concept of being saved, but that's up to you. (Was that meant to be one of your tough questions?)Then you were never saved in the first place? is that what you're saying?
Wow -- just wow.No. I'm not saying that, though you appear to be. I've made no claim to have been saved, or not saved. You might interpret my posts to mean that I reject the concept of being saved, but that's up to you. (Was that meant to be one of your tough questions?)
Nimrod did it; Solomon did it; Jesus' disciples did it ... what makes you an exception?
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