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Isn't that like asking how to bury oneself alive ? Too gruesome to ask or to even think about !Good post; how can we put the word of man above the Word of God?
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Isn't that like asking how to bury oneself alive ? Too gruesome to ask or to even think about !Good post; how can we put the word of man above the Word of God?
Of course there will be people who abandon the Church. Jesus said that he would divide family members from each other, let alone random followers of the Church.
We read in scripture that many left the Church because they couldn't handle the teaching of the Eucharist:
John 6
60On hearing it, many of his disciples said, “This is a hard teaching. Who can accept it?”.......
66From this time many of his disciples turned back and no longer followed him.
Or for unknown reasons:
1 John 2
19They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us.
You keep posting one false accusation after another.
To quote St. Jerome, "ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ."
Of course Catholics are encouraged to study scripture. After all, the bible is a Catholic book!
You keep posting one false accusation after another.
To quote St. Jerome, "ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ."
Of course Catholics are encouraged to study scripture. After all, the bible is a Catholic book!
Indulgences have always been part of Christianity.
IThe selling of indulgences has never been Catholic doctrine, however.
What would be God's Reason for not staying in some church ?When John wrote about people leaving the church it wasn't for unknown reasons. It was because they had believed a different doctrine; John called them "antichrists". He said that "they did not really belong to us". I wouldn't expect that anyone who denied Christ would stay in any church.
There is absolutely nothing in Scripture that teaches anything about indulgences and/or their necessity.
Yep, the Father looks favorably on charity but the almstaker will not be able to pray you into Heaven, out of Purgatory, or any where else......Yes it is. Jesus said that our Father in heaven will reward us for almsgiving.
I think you may be right about this,Yes it is. Jesus said that our Father in heaven will reward us for almsgiving.
Wrong. There is much in scripture about indulgences. Jesus tells us that we will be rewarded for almsgiving.
Paul tells us that we will reign with Christ if indeed we suffer with him. etc.
You ignore most of my post. Is there a difference between the doctrine of a church and what it teaches/promotes?Indulgences have always been part of Christianity. The selling of indulgences has never been Catholic doctrine, however.
Of course many Catholics look to the Church for guidance and interpretation, and the bible as a supplement to their spiritual path and life - not something that needs us to become lifelong students of.
My last question, why would the Catholic Church not encourage the study of God's recorded word? I know it was that way in the past when the education levels were lower, but today, I can't see a reason for that attitude.
My post was a response to Derek and his weak encouragement of Bible study. When the Bible is just a "supplement" to what the Church teaches, it is not a strongly encouraged resource to be studied. I guess Thursday is a better Catholic than Derek; although it seems like Thursday quotes the saints more than scripture.To quote St. Jerome, "ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ."
Of course Catholics are encouraged to study scripture. After all, the bible is a Catholic book!
The teaching of the Eucharist?? Jesus was telling them to eat his body and drink his blood, not to eat bread and drink wine. They understood it literally.
My post was a response to Derek and his weak encouragement of Bible study. When the Bible is just a "supplement" to what the Church teaches, it is not a strongly encouraged resource to be studied. I guess Thursday is a better Catholic than Derek; although it seems like Thursday quotes the saints more than scripture.
You ignore most of my post. Is there a difference between the doctrine of a church and what it teaches/promotes?
That is not the same as Catholic teaching and doctrine on indulgences.
Since you disagree, perhaps you can quote Scripture directly in regard to where it clearly talks about indulgences the way the Catholic Church does.