Is Mohammad a prophet..why and why not?

[Farid]

why don't you answer Muslim or are you truely thinking about all this? I would like to know you thoughts on it

 

[I_are_sceptical]

How could a man in the age of mohamed marry a 9 years girl and have sex with her? Is not that disgusting and child abuse?

They were legally married. Period. Secondly, it happened 1400 years ago. Their cultural values are not subject to your approval.

What would you say about this if it happens nowadays, let alone from the "prophet" who is supposed to represent God.

If I believed someone was God's chosen prophet, and that person was the political authority in a given area and thus could pass laws concerning the age of marriage, and this happened I would accept is as 100% approved of by Almighty God.

 

[tulc]

If I believed someone was God's chosen prophet, and that person was the political authority in a given area and thus could pass laws concerning the age of marriage, and this happened I would accept is as 100% approved of by Almighty God.

Dude...step back and look at that statement. Aren't there any bells going off in the back of your head?
tulc(who is hearing a lot of bells)

 

[S Walch]

So all those in political authority are correct in what they pass as laws, and whatever they do is from God?

Yay, so GWB really is from God, Saddam Hussein was from God, and etc etc etc.

You see where this is going?

 

[I_are_sceptical]

Dude...step back and look at that statement. Aren't there any bells going off in the back of your head?
tulc(who is hearing a lot of bells)

No, no bells at all. For me, it all has to do with obedience to God. If God wants me to believe something that yesterday I refused to believe, I think I should change my mind right away. If God wants me to believe something that the whole world tells me is wrong, I think I should be on God's side.

Plus I think I should obey the law.

Note that my earlier post says "if I believed that someone was God's chosen prophet" and "the age of marriage was established by law". I did not say I would accept that sort of behavior from just anyone.

 

[I_are_sceptical]

So all those in political authority are correct in what they pass as laws, and whatever they do is from God?

The religion I profess teaches clearly and unambiguously that I am to obey secular governments and the laws they pass.

Yay, so GWB really is from God, Saddam Hussein was from God, and etc etc etc.

I'm not into politics, I'm into religion, and my religion teaches "The Earth is but one country and mankind it's citizens".

You see where this is going?

We will have respect for each other and we will stop trying to push our opinions on other countries by force.

 

[tulc]

I'm into religion, and my religion teaches "The Earth is but one country and mankind it's citizens".

...as long as those in authority don't tell me it's OK to kill them? Or treat them as second class (or less) citizens? Those bells that should be going off in the back of your head? They should be getting louder now.
tulc(listening to REM, man I like those guys!)

 

[Farid]

They were legally married. Period. Secondly, it happened 1400 years ago. Their cultural values are not subject to your approval.

If I believed someone was God's chosen prophet, and that person was the political authority in a given area and thus could pass laws concerning the age of marriage, and this happened I would accept is as 100% approved of by Almighty God.

Where are the boundaries between what is moral and immoral, right and wrong, if anyone can claim to be a prophet of a god and does whatever comes to his mind. To believe someone is from God, one must first understand what the purpose of this God is, His, attributes...etc. Then you would be able to know if a given person is the Messenger (Prophet) of this God or not. There is only one fact about everything in this universe. e.g. a ring is either made of gold, or silver. We cannot claim it may be made of gold to some person and silver to another. The fact is it is either this or that, regardless of what others perceive it. Having said that, Mohamed is either a prophet of God or he was not. This is decided by how he conducted himself and the attributes ...etc of the god that sent him...etc.

 

[markie]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophet#The_Islamic_concept_of_prophet

. The Ahmadi Muslims consider Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian to be a prophet. However as he comes after the prophet Mohammed, their teachings are considered heretical and non-Islamic by most Muslims. Of course.
Muslims refer to Muhammad as The Prophet, the last and greatest of the prophets of Allah. Latter Day Saints also commonly refer to Joseph Smith, Jr. and his successors as The Prophet.Muslims refer to MuIt is Muhammad who is held to be the last prophet, ending a long line of messengers and also believed is the return of prophet Isa (Jesus) on the Last Day.
I won't comment any further so I won't be labelled anti Islamic but what are Nabi, was Adam a nabi?

 

[I_are_sceptical]

...as long as those in authority don't tell me it's OK to kill them? Or treat them as second class (or less) citizens? Those bells that should be going off in the back of your head? They should be getting louder now.
tulc

I'm not allowed to protest the considered views of a government. I am required by my religion to obey. If I feel the govenment's policies are not in line with God's Will, prayer is my only recourse.

That (theoretically at least) stops riots, treason, intrigue, espionage, and makes for a more orderly world. But of course my religion also teaches that governmental leaders who enact harmful policies will be held responsible before God. And, ultimately, it is the next world, our eternal life, that is our goal and should shape our behavior while we are here.

(listening to REM, man I like those guys!)

I'll stick with Herman's Hermits, thank you.

 

[I_are_sceptical]

Where are the boundaries between what is moral and immoral, right and wrong, if anyone can claim to be a prophet of a god and does whatever comes to his mind. To believe someone is from God, one must first understand what the purpose of this God is, His, attributes...etc. Then you would be able to know if a given person is the Messenger (Prophet) of this God or not. There is only one fact about everything in this universe. e.g. a ring is either made of gold, or silver. We cannot claim it may be made of gold to some person and silver to another. The fact is it is either this or that, regardless of what others perceive it. Having said that, Mohamed is either a prophet of God or he was not. This is decided by how he conducted himself and the attributes ...etc of the god that sent him...etc.

True. Just remember that in New Testament times, and for two thousand years after, the Jewish people have not seen Jesus as their Messiah. IMO that is a crystal clear warning to Christians to be very careful about who they reject as a new prophet from God.

 

[Bevlina]

True. Just remember that in New Testament times, and for two thousand years after, the Jewish people have not seen Jesus as their Messiah. IMO that is a crystal clear warning to Christians to be very careful about who they reject as a new prophet from God.

I agree. Jesus told us to beware of false prophets. And, we follow Jesus. That means, we follow what He said!

 

[markie]

This is the only part of your lengthy post that relates in any way to my question. What is meant by exclusivity? It seems to me that whenever Christians talk about it they are saying that all other religions are false.

The Christians who walk up to me on the street, and knock on my door, and tell me God wants me to change my religion.[/font]

Sounds like you're talking to Jehovah witnnesses

 

[tulc]

I'll stick with Herman's Hermits, thank you.

Been here? http://www.hermanshermits.co.uk/
tulc(great...now I've got "I'm 'enry the eighth I am..." running through my head!)

 

[markie]

This is why alot of muslims are eager to kill themselves and others with them, because they will get what other cannot get, the 70 virgins.


The simple proof that islam forced it way into the world is what happen in history. When the islamic army was capable to conquoring, they entered the country during the Fath (Opening, of the country) and then after defeating the people of this country, 3 options are offered, they convert to islam, they pay the Gezia (tax) which was disabling, or be killed by the sword. as for the battle of badr, teaching 10 children how to write was a smart political decisin from mohamed, as to gain more intellectual power when his religion was still growing.

What do these verses mean Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
38 And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.

 

[markie]

I agree. Jesus told us to beware of false prophets. And, we follow Jesus. That means, we follow what He said!

He didnn't say there wouldn't be anymore real ones though. Even after the new Testament was wriitten,, i'm not necesarily talking about mohammed but there are modern day prophets.

 

[Q-La]

Our God tells us to love our enemies, while...anyway just love everybody.

 

[I_are_sceptical]

Sounds like you're talking to Jehovah witnnesses

Mostly, yes. But the Campus Crusade for Christ was quite active in my city in the mid-1980s, and I recently ran into some people from an Assembly of God church going door to door on my street.

 

[I_are_sceptical]

tulc, thank you. I didn't know about that website.

 

[Bevlina]

He didnn't say there wouldn't be anymore real ones though. Even after the new Testament was wriitten,, i'm not necesarily talking about mohammed but there are modern day prophets.

True markie, but we can always discern a false prophet from a real one, thanks to Jesus!