Is Mohammad a prophet..why and why not?

[mli3]

It seems That NO ONE GOT the answers...

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[mli3]

It seems That NO ONE has GOT the answers...

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[markie]

What answers? If told you why he is not a prpphet you or another Muslim would say I'm just slandering Islam.

 

[Born_to_Lose_Live_to_Win]

What answers? If told you why he is not a prpphet you or another Muslim would say I'm just slandering Islam.

My last point says it all.

 

[Born_to_Lose_Live_to_Win]

What answers? If told you why he is not a prpphet you or another Muslim would say I'm just slandering Islam.

My last point says it all.

 

[markie]

WHAT did u say???

The book which I am talking about r((Matthew,Mark,Luke and John))...I will say the question again..How do u believe in 4 gospels which contradict each other???

DO not forget the rest questions!!!

They only contradict each other if you are looking for contradictions. One gospel might say something about an event, and the other referring to that event might give more or less information about it but they don't contradict. Like you all say Paul's different accounts of his vision in Acts contradict he gives different information about them but they don't contradict. I think this whole thing hinges on the death and resurrection of Jesus. If you could prove they lied in the gospel's you would have a reason not to believe the death and resurrection, if you proved Jesus didn't die you could say there's no new testament. From what I read I don't think you even follow the law right. Do you saccrifice at passover, that's the law.

 

[tulc]

It seems That NO ONE has GOT the answers...

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Wow my ears are ringing! Who's doing all that shouting? ​

tulc(who's wondering why his typing is starting in the middle) ​

 

[tulc]

Umm by the way? just because you don't like the answers doesn't mean no one is answering. Just a thought.
tulc(going to go put ear plugs in until his ears stop ringing)

 

[Bevlina]

While Jesus was alive, He told us to beware of false prophets. He also told us we would know them by their Fruits. So, in other words, He outlined the fact that they would be like wolves in sheeps clothing. They would appear peaceful and loving and kind, but, in their hearts they would be as ravening wolves.
We abide by what Jesus taught us. What does a ravening wolf do? It kills, destroys, scatters, divides, and conquors.

 

[I_are_sceptical]

"Muslim theologians are unanimous in declaring that no religious toleration was extended to the idolators of Arabia at the time of Muhammad. The only choice given them was death or the acceptance of Islam. Similarly, no tolerance is shown to atheists and unbelievers.

The source book I use for Islamic history doesn't say that.

The Koran is full of lurid descriptions of the punishments awaiting them. Surah XXII.9 states: "As for the unbelievers for them garments of fire shall be cut and there shall be poured over their heads boiling water whereby whatever is in their bowels and skins shall be dissolved and they will be punished with hooked iron rods."

I'm only guessing but this could be a description of Hell, not an instruction to be used by Muslims against living people.

Why do you think that the Meccans chased Muhammed out of Mecca?

For the same reason the Jews arranged for Jesus to be crucified.

The 'test for time' idea means you believe that given a long amount of time of existence equates to being some kind of 'good' religion. If not, what's the point in raising it.

Obviously, then by your rationale, Christianity, being older, is even better, and Judaism, even better, and so on back to Hindu religion, said to be even older. Hinduism, you must now say 'stood the test of time' better than any other faith.

Please note that I was not arguing against the word "good" but the word "better".

What religion is that?
Are you saying your religion is only true for 'now'?

I belong to the Baha'i Faith.
Yes, that's what I am saying. We Baha'is are clearly taught that God will send a new Revelation in 900+ years.

Secondly, If Christianity is exclusively true, does that mean Moses was a false prophet?

Yes, it does. Hence it proves that your standard is wrong.
Christians say Christ died on the Cross (and rose again). Muslims deny He died in such a way, but was substituted (who knows why?, but that's beside the point). Thus on just one instance we are presenting mutually exclusive arguments.

Read my post again. It says "Moses", not "Muhammad".

And how about citing some Old Testament verses where God tells the Jews to be tolerant of idolators?

 

[SolomonVII]

S Walch, if post # 61 is addressed to me, I have read several books on Christian apologetics over the years. When they say that Christianity is exclusively true, no exception is ever made for Moses. Your New Testament quote does not change the content of those books.

As a member of a religion which is neither Judaism nor Christianity, I reject the idea that Christianity is exclusively true. Which makes me wonder why nothing is said about Moses being true until after I point out a possible flaw in Christian reasoning.

The Old Testament is sacred scripture in Christianity along with the New Testament. God's revelation is progressively revealed through time, and Moses, as the foremost prophet of the Old Testament, from a Christian perspective points us toward believing in Christ.

 

[I_are_sceptical]

The Old Testament is sacred scripture in Christianity along with the New Testament. God's revelation is progressively revealed through time, and Moses, as the foremost prophet of the Old Testament, from a Christian perspective points us toward believing in Christ.

Okay, so how does that match the Christian claim that Christianity is "exclusively" or "uniquely" true?

 

[markie]

we do believe that Jesus was a prophet and so did Jesus (pbuh). Prophet Jesus
denied divinity and confirmed his humanity and that he
was a Prophet in many verses in the Bible.

After hearing the news that Herod wanted to kill him,
Jesus said, "Nevertheless I must journey on today and
tomorrow and the next day; for it can not be that A
PROPHET should perish outside of Jerusalem" (Luke
13:33).

Jesus was a prophet and if somebody told you he wasn't he must not have read duetoronomy 18::18 very well Or maybe they applied it to Mohammed which I doubt it's referring to but even the imam way moderator says it includes Jesus. The reason Christians don't like to call him that is he was and is so much more than just a prophet. would you rather we had called the gospels the gospels according to Jesus? Did Jesus write these words,
So she conceived him, and she retired with him to a remote place. And the pains of childbirth drove her to the trunk of a palm-tree: she cried (in her anguish): "Ah! would that I had died before this! Would that I had been a thing forgotten and out of sight!" But (a voice) cried to her from beneath the (palm-tree): "Grieve not! for thy Lord hath provided a rivulet beneath thee; "And shake towards thyself the trunk of the palm-tree: it will let fall fresh ripe dates upon thee. "So eat and drink and cool (thine) eyes. And if thou dost see any man, say, `I have vowed a fast to (God) Most Gracious, and this day will I enter into no talk with any human being.' " (The Quran, 19:22-26)

JESUS SPOKE AS A BABY
At length she brought the (babe) to her people, carrying him (in her arms). They said: "O Mary! truly an amazing thing hast thou brought! "O sister of Aaron! thy father was not a man of evil, nor thy mother a woman unchaste!"

But she pointed to the babe. They said: "How can we talk to one who is a child in the cradle?"
He said: "I am indeed a servant of God: He hath given me revelation and made me a prophet; "And He hath made me Blessed wheresoever I be, and hath enjoined on me Prayer and Charity as long as I live; "(He) hath made me kind to my mother, and not overbearing or miserable; "So Peace is on me the day I was born, the day that I die, and the Day that I shall be raised up to life (again)"! Such (was) Jesus the son of Mary: (it is) a statement of truth, about which they (vainly) dispute.
It is not befitting to (the majesty of) God that He should beget a son. Glory be to Him! When He determines a
matter, He only says to it, "Be," and it is. Verily, God is my Lord and your Lord: Him therefore serve ye: this is a Way that is straight. But the sects differ among themselves: and woe to the Unbelievers because of the (coming) Judgment of a momentous Day!
(The Holy Quran, 19:27-37)

 

[SolomonVII]

Okay, so how does that match the Christian claim that Christianity is "exclusively" or "uniquely" true?

Christianity has grown from the roots of the ancient Hebrew faith of Abraham, Jacob and Moses. For Christians, Jesus was a fulfilment of the laws and the prophets of the Old Testament, of whom Moses was the primary one.

 

[Farid]

Hi Mli3!
I can see some sincerity in your question, hence i'll tell you few things abiout Mohemmed and then you can deicide. what I will say is not by no means everything about mohhemed.

• a prophet is like a messenger from God
• the messenger should pass on the message of his King, Queen, God...or whoever that send him.

Now let us look at the god of Islam who sent Mohammed as a prophet.

• he refers to women as "lacking mind and religion", meaning they are not as holy or wise as men.
• if a moslem man washes before prayers, two things can make him unclean again...a dog or a waman passing by him!
• in their "heaven", a man shall have 70 virgins to have sex with a day. they can have sex with children in that heaven and these children are the sons of the unbelievers, that is non moslems.
• in their heave, they can drink wine...etc and have all sortsof materialistic things.
• Mohemmed himself got married to a 9 years old child.
• Mohammed got married to more than 40 women. If you want to read about his sexual immorality, there a book written by a famous moslem female writer, i thinks it's called " Zawgat el nabi" arabic for "the wives of the prophet". she was attemting to exalt him

Unfortunately i have to go now. but I'll try to come back and explain abit more about it. feel free to private message me.

 

[I_are_sceptical]

Christianity has grown from the roots of the ancient Hebrew faith of Abraham, Jacob and Moses. For Christians, Jesus was a fulfilment of the laws and the prophets of the Old Testament, of whom Moses was the primary one.

Yes, I'm well aware of that, but it has nothing to do with the question I am asking.

Either Christianity alone is from God, or both Judaism and Christianity are from God.

If Christianity alone is from God, then the Old Testament is not, and never was, God's Word.

If both religions are from God, then Christianity is not exclusively or uniquely true.

What do you think?

 

[I_are_sceptical]

Hi Mli3!
I can see some sincerity in your question, hence i'll tell you few things abiout Mohemmed and then you can deicide. what I will say is not by no means everything about mohhemed.

• a prophet is like a messenger from God
• the messenger should pass on the message of his King, Queen, God...or whoever that send him.

Now let us look at the god of Islam who sent Mohammed as a prophet.

• he refers to women as "lacking mind and religion", meaning they are not as holy or wise as men.
• if a moslem man washes before prayers, two things can make him unclean again...a dog or a waman passing by him!
• in their "heaven", a man shall have 70 virgins to have sex with a day. they can have sex with children in that heaven and these children are the sons of the unbelievers, that is non moslems.
• in their heave, they can drink wine...etc and have all sortsof materialistic things.
• Mohemmed himself got married to a 9 years old child.
• Mohammed got married to more than 40 women. If you want to read about his sexual immorality, there a book written by a famous moslem female writer, i thinks it's called " Zawgat el nabi" arabic for "the wives of the prophet". she was attemting to exalt him

Unfortunately i have to go now. but I'll try to come back and explain abit more about it. feel free to private message me.

I've heard Christian arguments that any statement about Jesus should be in complete agreement with the New Testament, not on secular philosophies that ignore what Jesus said about Himself and His disciples said about Him. Would it be fair to base our view of Muhammad on the Qur'an?

 

[SolomonVII]

Yes, I'm well aware of that, but it has nothing to do with the question I am asking.
Either Christianity alone is from God, or both Judaism and Christianity are from God.

If Christianity alone is from God, then the Old Testament is not, and never was, God's Word.

If both religions are from God, then Christianity is not exclusively or uniquely true.
What do you think?

The Old Testament does not belong to Judaism alone. The Old Testament is very much an essential part of the Christianity, and it always has been. Judaism accepts the Old Testament as scripture, like Christianity. The difference between Judaism and Christianity is not that Christians cannot accept Moses, but that Judaism cannot acept Christ as God, King and Sacrifice.

Is this to say that the ancient Hebrew religion was Christianity? No, not at all!
From a Christian perspective though, it was proto-Christian, and its prophets and its laws pointed the way to Christ, and cleared a path towards Christ. Christ's sacrifice becomes understandable only in the context of the Old Testament.
But since the resurrection was an historic event, and Christianity is therefore progressive, in their time, the ancient Hebrews were followers of the path being laid out for them by God. At the cross, however, the road diverged and some chose to follow Christ, and some chose not to.
As Christians, of course, we consider the correct path to follow from that point of time would be to follow Christ.


Christians therefore regard their religion, and not Judaism, to be the true inheritors of the ancient Hebrew traditions of the Old Testament. Followers of modern Judaism would of course disagree, and consider themselves alone as the chosen people. (Islam gives a third often contradictory perspective).

From a Christian perspective, then your premise of the Christian exclusivity claims as excluding the Old Testament is a false one. The role of history in revelation is recognized and accounted for. Ao your premise is simply not what is meant by the exclusivity of Christian truth. Revelation comes to us in God's time, and Christ's sacrifice does nothing to abolish or negate the Old Testament, but fulfills it.

In fact, the exclusivity of Christianity, as now taught by the Catholic Church, is not as rigid as you might think. We believe that the truth taught by the Church is pure, but we also acknowledge that God may well have revealed other aspects of his truth to other religions and men of good will as well. Anything that contradicts Catholicism must naturally be rejected bu us as false, or truth would become a meaningless word. And our truth is that Jesus is the Divine Messiah.

Yet we also acknowledge that we share with Jews and Moslems many of the same ideals of a common tradition. And other religions as well have their points of contact with the divine that it would do well for us all to appreciate as true.

 

[tulc]

Either Christianity alone is from God, or both Judaism and Christianity are from God.

the second part.

If Christianity alone is from God, then the Old Testament is not, and never was, God's Word.

Nope, The New Testament grew out of the Old.

If both religions are from God, then Christianity is not exclusively or uniquely true.

Who said it was?

What do you think?

I think this is a great time for some coffee!
tulc(who's nextel keeps beeping making my computer monotor go wierd)

 

[I_are_sceptical]

simply not what is meant by the exclusivity of Christian truth.

This is the only part of your lengthy post that relates in any way to my question. What is meant by exclusivity? It seems to me that whenever Christians talk about it they are saying that all other religions are false.

Who said it was?

The Christians who walk up to me on the street, and knock on my door, and tell me God wants me to change my religion.