Muslim said:
Your views of Islam and the teachings of the prophet Muhammad are very misconstrued. As for having sex with 70 virgins in heaven, that is the perverted view that Chrisitans put on Islam these days.
Why do you guys continue to say these 'it's a lie' statements when it's so clearly taught!
Surah Ar-Rahman
55: 69
Then which of the Blessings of your Lord will you both (jinns and men) deny?
70
Therein (gardens) will be fair (wives) good and beautiful;
71
Then which of the Blessings of your Lord will you both (jinns and men) deny?
72
Houris (beautiful, fair females) restrained in pavilions;
73
Then which of the Blessings of your Lord will you both (jinns and men) deny?
74
Whom no man or jinn yatmithhunna (has opened their hymens with sexual intercourse) before them.
75
Then which of the Blessings of your Lord will you both (jinns and men) deny?
76
Reclining on green cushions and rich beautiful mattresses.
77
Then which of the Blessings of your Lord will you both (jinns and men) deny?
78
Blessed be the Name of your Lord (Allah), the Owner of Majesty and Honour.
Muslim said:
As if all Muslims cant wait until they die so that they can have sex with 70 virgins. These 70 virgins that you refer to are in fact wives/husbands for the martyrs in Islam. Not everyone gets this reward.
This is true. The only way you can be guaranteed is to be 'martyred' that is, like in a suicide bombing.
Muslim said:
And this is something that Muslims do not constantly think about the way Christians constantly do.
As Christians don't believe this, most wouldn't even be aware of the concept, so you've got that wrong!
Muslim said:
This is a reward for those who are martyrs, and in Islam that is the highest honor. Being a martyr, not receiving 72 virgins. Because receiving 72 virgins compares nothing with instantly going to heaven and being close to the throne of God. And a martyr also gets to intervene for 70 of their family members on the day of judgement who would have otherwise gone to hell.
Intervention? That's something I've not heard and is very interesting. What verses?
Muslim said:
As for having sex with children in heaven. There is no basis for this in Islam,
You have in heaven the chance of being with your wife, and if she's a child, you're with her.
Plus the houris are permanently viriginal (though not neceesarily children) in that they become virigins again after you have sex with them.
Muslim said:
and this is a lie perpertrated by the enemies of Islam to discredit the prophet Muhammad. As for forcing people to convert to Islam and fighting against them. The prophet Muhammad never forced anyone to convert to Islam.
That's another of your 'just-so' statements. Why did he call Moslems to fight against non-believers? You're now in a logical bind because either you admit he didn't, and that's easily shown by the verses we can quote, or that he did, but that people disobeyed him!
Muslim said:
When the pagan Meccans stole the property of the Muslims who were living in Medina. Allah gave the command to fight them because the pagans were oppressing the Muslims and while fighting is bad, oppression is worse. So the Muslims defeated the Pagans at Badr against incredible odds, and then what did the prophet Muhammad do with his captives? He did not force them to convert, nor did he kill them. But instead he let them go free if they could teach 10 children how to read. So please do not try to spread lies about Islam to try and discredit it in the eyes of others
Do you have sources for your version?
"The Muslims went on killing them and taking prisoners. 70 pagans met their death, and the Muslims took from them 70 prisoners. History preserved in its records only fifth of the names out of the 70 pagan loses. Twenty [2] or twenty two [3] of them died at Ali's hand."
http://www.al-islam.org/history/history/badr.html
"Out of the seventy prisoners two, 'Uqbh and Nadr Ibn Harith, were put to death and the rest brought to Medina as captives. The captives included 'Abbas (one of the uncle of the Prophet), 'Aqil and Abu al-'As, the second was the brother of 'Ali ('Ali was among the most reputed companion of the Prophet and also the fourth Caliph) and the third, the son-in-law of the Prophet."
http://www.geocities.com/badr_313/battle.htm
One Muslim site says that Muhammed ordered the execution of the two men...
On their way back to Madinah, at a large sand hill, the Prophet ...divided the spoils equally among the fighters after he had taken Al-Khums (one-fifth). When they reached As-Safra', he ordered that two of the prisoners should be killed.
http://www.sunnahonline.com/ilm/seerah/0005.htm
In another instance towards PoWs...
Bukhari 5.448
... When the Prophet returned from the (battle) of Al-Khandaq (i.e. Trench) and laid down his arms and took a bath Gabriel came to him while he (i.e. Gabriel) was shaking the dust off his head, and said, "You have laid down the arms?" By Allah, I have not laid them down. Go out to them (to attack them)." The Prophet said, "Where?" Gabriel pointed towards Bani Quraiza. So Allah's Apostle went to them (i.e. Banu Quraiza) (i.e. besieged them). They then surrendered to the Prophet's judgment but he directed them to Sad to give his verdict concerning them. Sad said, "I give my judgment that their warriors should be killed, their women and children should be taken as captives, and their properties distributed."
Not only were these guys allies of Muhammed, but Muhammed also (after they'd surrendered to him) presided over their massacre.
"He decided that all the able-bodied male persons belonging to the tribe should be killed, women and children taken prisoners and their wealth divided among the Muslim fighters. The Prophet ... accepted his judgement saying that Sa'd had adjudged by the Command of Allaah."
http://www.sunnahonline.com/ilm/seerah/0005.htm
Why do Moslems here continually defend their religion by stating everyone else are liars. When the facts are presented do they recant...? Even when the Suras are laid before them.