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Is Mohammad a prophet..why and why not?

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morningstar2651 said:
Something tells me you missed the book of Leviticus.

So your best argument is that Christianit, Judaism and Islam are just as bad as each other?

So you're not really 'defending Islam' at all! Cool. Nice to see your true colours.
 
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vanshan said:
This is simply a false assumption. I have heard the stories of many ex-Muslims who have converted. You may always claim that they must not have been "really Muslim," but do you see the weakness of that argument? I could also claim that any Christian converts to Mohammedism were never really sincere Christians.



Mohammed fabricated his religion just as Joseph Smith created his. I see them as no different. Look at sharia law, the treatment of women, and the idea of jihad. Could the unconditionally loving God revealed in the Bible be the same God of the Qu'ran? Absolutely not.

Tell me in Muslim lands under sharia law, what is the penalty for conversion? Obviously more people do not come to Christ out of the fear of persecution and death. This is how Islam keeps its faithful and attempts to overcome the Light. They do not allow Christian temples and monasteries that are damaged to be repaired and slowly let them deteriorate until they are unusable. They cruelly persecute and destroy their enemies by force, not being able to defeat them by the merits of their teachings. Few would ever choose Islam over the Gospel of Christ.



Basil

first\ I wnat to ask you....Why do many priests ,monastics and religious men converted to Islam???Are not they sincere christians? If they are not How do you believe that they are good and sincere men???...To find the answer I advise you to ask them...

Second\If Joseph is just like MOhammad why he is not a popular man like the prophet Mohammad peace be upon him ? I am sure that most of the world do not know him or even heard his name!!! Is not that true???Why does not Joseph's sharia law found untill now in a large area?

Third \I did not quoted all of your respond because I do not have time to respond now but I will soon

Finally\You know that there are a bout 20 millions non-muslims in Egypt...If ISlam kill or compel them to convert Islam the results would be:
1\All people in Egypt will be muslims
2\or there wont be any chrisians or Jews in it nowadays.

#If any one do not want to be muslim Islam dose not compel him\her to be muslims..you con read in the holy Quran((256] Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects Evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things. ))
 
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The numbers of Christians in Egypt are dwindling, not because Islam is true, but because of brutal persecutions, which are inreasing. Christians in Egypt are harrassed right now.

Your belief that monastics and many Christians are converting is a lie your leaders want you to believe to try and enslave you to your false religion. As an Eastern Orthodox Christian I keep up with the news about our Church in the Middle East and I know what you are claiming is simply a lie.

Basil
 
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No body told me that monastics and the others converted to Islam...I searched and I read their stories myself...I asked you to ask them yourself and you will see what will they say..read their stories and their opinions about christianity and Islam..Then you can tell me what you think...

I know it might impossible for you to find them ... but I believe that there are many who can aswer your questions such as Cat stevens((Yusuf Islam))the popular musicin..andMichel Jackson's brother the popular singer...

ha last thing I want to say that Islam respect other religion ((Chritianity and Jews))but muslims believe that they have been changed by some other people...also we are not considered muslims if we do not believe in them...[285] The Messenger believeth in what hath been revealed to him from his Lord, as do the men of faith. Each one (of them) believeth in Allah, His angels, His Books, and His Messengers. "We make no distinction (they say) between one and another of His Messengers." And they say: "We hear, and we obey, (we seek) Thy forgiveness, our Lord, and to Thee is the end of all journeys."
 
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No body told me that monastics and the others converted to Islam...I searched and I read their stories myself...I asked you to ask them yourself and you will see what will they say..read their stories and their opinions about christianity and Islam..Then you can tell me what you think...

I know it might be impossible for you to find them ... but I believe that there are many who can answer your questions such as Cat stevens((Yusuf Islam))the popular musicin..and Michel Jackson's brother the popular singer...

Tha last thing I want to say that Islam respect other religion ((Chritianity and Jews))but muslims believe that they have been changed by some other people...also we are not considered muslims if we do not believe in them...
In The Holy Quran:
[285] The Messenger believeth in what hath been revealed to him from his Lord, as do the men of faith. Each one (of them) believeth in Allah, His angels, His Books, and His Messengers. "We make no distinction (they say) between one and another of His Messengers." And they say: "We hear, and we obey, (we seek) Thy forgiveness, our Lord, and to Thee is the end of all journeys."
 
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Cat Stevens is hardly an example of a faithful Christian leaving Christ to embrace Islam. According to a recent interview he was drugged-up, living an immoral lifestyle, and all around desparate. Christianity didn't fail Cat, he failed to embrace it and get what could have been provided for him.

Basil
 
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To whom who say that The Holy Quran is man-made...
There are many things that Allad said in The Holy Quran more than 1400 years ago which have been discoverd these years..For example,when some scientists discoverd that the mon has been divided into tow parts...after studying the moon surface ...We have in the Holy Quran exactly what they said a few years ago...And we know this befor them because it is written in the Holy Quran:
[1] The Hour (of Judgment) is nigh, and the moon is cleft asunder.


[2] But if they see a Sign, they turn away, and say, "This is (but) transient magic."


[3] They reject (the warning) and follow their (own) lusts but every matter has its appointed time.


[4] There have already come to them Recitals wherein there is (enough) to check (them),


[5] Mature wisdom; but (the preaching of) Warners profits them not.


[6] Therefore, (O Prophet) turn away from them. The Day that the Caller will call (them) to a terrible affair,,

Also many many things I might say them in the near future
 
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mli3 said:
[1] The Hour (of Judgment) is nigh, and the moon is cleft asunder.


[2] But if they see a Sign, they turn away, and say, "This is (but) transient magic."


[3] They reject (the warning) and follow their (own) lusts but every matter has its appointed time.


[4] There have already come to them Recitals wherein there is (enough) to check (them),


[5] Mature wisdom; but (the preaching of) Warners profits them not.


[6] Therefore, (O Prophet) turn away from them. The Day that the Caller will call (them) to a terrible affair,,

Also many many things I might say them in the near future
uh ohh I'm getting that feeling again. ("Someone-is-in-danger-of-Judgement") So we've stopped understanding now or am I misunderstanding what you are saying? :sorry:
tulc(who has still some hope :sigh: )
 
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vanshan said:
Cat Stevens is hardly an example of a faithful Christian leaving Christ to embrace Islam. According to a recent interview he was drugged-up, living an immoral lifestyle, and all around desparate. Christianity didn't fail Cat, he failed to embrace it and get what could have been provided for him.

Basil
The media classifies Muslims as "terrorists," "highjackers" and "kidnappers."
So why would anyone even look at Islam? Why are so many priests and preachers going to Islam?
http://www.islamtomorrow.com/yusuf.asp



 
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mli3 said:
Hi

Would you please tell me your opinion a bout the prophethood of Mohammad..Do you think it is true or not...((especially the non-muslims please)) and why do you think he is not...?

Thanks :)

I do NOT believe it is true... Why not? Because so many like him came to this world and brought different fruits... Matthew 7:15
 
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veggie said:
Muhammad is the prophet of Islam. Why is there a question about this? I accept him as a prophet of Islam, doesn't mean I'm Muslim, but I can respect the Islamic religion.

The fact that he came to give a message that opposes Christianity doesn't seem to phase you.
 
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Montalban said:
The fact that he came to give a message that opposes Christianity doesn't seem to phase you.
Well, I don't believe it opposes Christianity, and even if it did, why should that phase me? Was that supposed to induce me to hate?
 
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veggie said:
Well, I don't believe it opposes Christianity, and even if it did, why should that phase me? Was that supposed to induce me to hate?

Oh please! Induce you to hate? I'm trying to have a reasoned conversation with you (note I called you earlier to look at the evidenced argument I present) your reply is to continually state these indignant protests. "Make the monster go away!"

How is Islam and Christianity similiar? Conisdering that Jesus said He is the Son of God, and Moslems don't. Considering that the major momemnt of the Gospels is Christ's death and return; denied by Islam.

I mean under the old Communist Soviet Union they had a guarantee in their constitution of freedom of speech but that didn't stop them being masters of political oppression. You seem to see superficial similiarities only.
 
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