Most of our prayers are to Christ. Who ever suggested otherwise?
Why are not all of your prayers to Jesus Christ?
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Most of our prayers are to Christ. Who ever suggested otherwise?
Because the body of Christ is a communion of love. We pray for each other and we ask each other's prayers and in doing so foster love between the members of Christ's body. God obviously delights in this because he blesses it so abundantly. Miracles are commonplace in the Orthodox Church.Why are not all of your prayers to Jesus Christ?
Because the body of Christ is a communion of love. We pray for each other and we ask each other's prayers and in doing so foster love between the members of Christ's body. God obviously delights in this because he blesses it so abundantly. Miracles are commonplace in the Orthodox Church.
Where do you think?Where is your faith?
I have never heard such a thing. How "commonplace" and where did you learn of these?Miracles are also commonplace in Islam and Hinduism
All christians areYou might also note that nowhere in Scripture is Mary given to anyone in any way as an intercessor.
But this is a strawmanIt is an enormous leap from asking a personal friend to pray for you versus asking a long-deceased person who never knew you nor has any known interest in you or even ability to communicate with you, to pray for you.
As for myself, my Intercessor (Jesus Christ) sits at the right hand of the Father interceding for me 24/7/365. I don't need a postmistress to deliver my prayers to Him.
I have never heard such a thing. How "commonplace" and where did you learn of these?
All christians are
Where do you think?
1 Corinthians 12:20-31Then, by that reasoning, you have no particular need to hire a priest to intercede for you when you can get the same sort of intercession from any and all Christians.
Seriously?Here is one of a multitude of websites revealing commonplace Islamic miracles - Miracles of Islam - islamic miracles, miracle pictures of islam, miracle pictures You can easily find more with a simple internet search.
Here is a similar Hindu miracle site - Hindu world divided by a 24-hour wonder
Seriously?
Most of the 'miracles' on that Moslem site seem to conform to something like the "Baader-Meinhof" phenomenon due to our brain's ability to recognise patterns. If it looks a bit like the name of Allah, then your average Moslem's brain will fill in the gaps so that to them it looks exactly like thd name of Allah. Hardly anything miraculous.
Where are the stories of people being healed of cancer, having crushed bones and other serious injuries healed, women being able to conceive after years of sterility, food supplies replenishing?
1 Corinthians 12:20-31
But now are they many members, yet but one body.
And the eye cannot say unto the hand, I have no need of thee: nor again the head to the feet, I have no need of you.
Nay, much more those members of the body, which seem to be more feeble, are necessary:
And those members of the body, which we think to be less honourable, upon these we bestow more abundant honour; and our uncomely parts have more abundant comeliness.
For our comely parts have no need: but God hath tempered the body together, having given more abundant honour to that part which lacked:
That there should be no schism in the body; but that the members should have the same care one for another.
And whether one member suffer, all the members suffer with it; or one member be honoured, all the members rejoice with it.
Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.
And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.
Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles?
Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?
But covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way.
Why do you feel the need to downplay the miracles occuring in the Orthodox Church? That is what your recent replies amount to. As Christians, I would have thought that the Scriptures were the source of our understanding of what is meant by the word "miracles".Your definition of miracle might be limited to humans being healed of various diseases, but the general definition of a miracle is any supernatural action performed by a deity. By that definition, all of the Islamic and Hindu miracles conform to the definition.
There you go again. The Catholic Church is not the Orthodox Church nor are these the sort of 'miracles' I'm talking about.Concerning your criticism of the Muslim miracles, the Marian apparitions claimed by the Roman Catholic Church are in the very same league.
Well when you have some more details let me know. I suspect you will find they are in a completely different league.If I am not mistaken, there have been Orthodox miracles related to the miraculous creation of some icons.
Why do you feel the need to downplay the miracles occuring in the Orthodox Church? That is what your recent replies amount to. As Christians, I would have thought that the Scriptures were the source of our understanding of what is meant by the word "miracles".
There you go again. The Catholic Church is not the Orthodox Church nor are these the sort of 'miracles' I'm talking about.
Well when you have some more details let me know. I suspect you will find they are in a completely different league.
I'm not seeing that, but ok.I am not downplaying the role of miracles in the Orthodox Church or in the Roman Catholic Church or in the Pentecostal Church in particular. I am, however, attempting to put the role of miracles in perspective in faith formation in every religion.
They are a great encouragement within the Church, but no we don't as a general rule broadcast them outside the Church as a means of converting people.The fact is that, from various perspectives, miracles occur regularly and are used to encourage the members of the religion as well as to convince unbelievers to join them.
No disagreement there.If one's faith is based upon miracles, IMO, it is built on a very shaky foundation. This is equally true for Hindus, Muslims, and, yes, Christians.
Thank youIn the meantime, you might enjoy this article - Thousands flock to 'miracle' icon at south suburban church
I copied 1cor12:20-31 in response to your query of the value of asking for intercession of a priest which was prompted by my statement that all christians (not just Mary) have a role in intercession.Thank you for helping to make my point. Paul wrote his letter to living people, not dead people who could not read his letter. He addressed the entire question of resurrection in the fifteenth chapter.