Is man naturally good . . .

[Light of the East]

Never mind . . . there's another thread on this subject that just posted.

 

[ArmyMatt]

no worries, but just in case there are any lurkers….yes, we are. we just tarnish it because of sin.

 

[returntosender]

So then people shouldn't say we are born sinners. That is the most common thing that is said here.

 

[HTacianas]

So then people shouldn't say we are born sinners. That is the most common thing that is said here.

We were discussing that in the other thread. If it helps:

People are inherently good??

 

[ArmyMatt]

So then people shouldn't say we are born sinners. That is the most common thing that is said here.

why shouldn’t we?

 

[returntosender]

why shouldn’t we?

Because we are not born sinners?

 

[returntosender]

We were discussing that in the other thread. If it helps:

People are inherently good??

 

[honey badger]

And Jesus said to him, "Why do you call Me good? No one is good, except God alone.

 

[ArmyMatt]

Because we are not born sinners?

I still don’t see how we can’t say we’re born sinners or whatever.

 

[ArmyMatt]

double post

 

[honey badger]

except that we are…

by this reasoning Jesus was then also born a sinner ....

 

[ArmyMatt]

by this reasoning Jesus was then also born a sinner ....

how?

 

[honey badger]

how?

well ... by your reasoning

 

[ArmyMatt]

well ... by your reasoning

not really. Christ being the Incarnate Son of God means it’s different for Him than for the rest of us.

 

[honey badger]

not really. Christ being the Incarnate Son of God means it’s different for Him than for the rest of us.

chapter and verse ...

 

[honey badger]

not really. Christ being the Incarnate Son of God means it’s different for Him than for the rest of us.

Therefore it behooved Him to be made like the brothers in all things, so that He might become a merciful and faithful high priest in things relating to God, in order to make propitiation for the sins of the people.

 

[ArmyMatt]

chapter and verse ...

the Prologue of John’s Gospel is a good start unless you think that applies to all humans.

 

[ArmyMatt]

Therefore it behooved Him to be made like the brothers in all things, so that He might become a merciful and faithful high priest in things relating to God, in order to make propitiation for the sins of the people.

what does this have to do with what we are talking about?

 

[honey badger]

what does this have to do with what we are talking about?

what it says .... he was made like the rest of us in all things ... you stated the contrary ....

 

[ArmyMatt]

what it says .... he was made like the rest of us in all things ... you stated the contrary ....

it also says He is without sin, which is unlike us. cherry picking Scripture verses doesn’t work on the Orthodox subforum.

plus, it seems you are assuming I think sin is a thing.