I suppose it was carried away to wherever Jesus went toWhat do you suppose happened to His flesh here?
Luke 24:31
And their eyes were opened, and they knew him; and he vanished out of their sight.
I don't know... I haven't been resurrected... nor will I be crucified for the sins of the world.So we will retain any wounds we may receive in Death "Like His" body did?
I suppose it was carried away to wherever Jesus went to
Corruptible means "able to decay", i.e. mortal. Jesus certainly did have corruptible, mortal human flesh prior to the resurrection. In the resurrection He does not.
The idea that Jesus's body was incorruptible before the resurrection is a heresy known as Aphthartodocetism. If the Lord wasn't an ordinary, mortal human being in His humanity, then the Incarnation is a sham.
"Like us in all ways but without sin" is an essential and key component of orthodox Christology. Or to quote St. Gregory of Nazianzus, "Whatever is not assumed is not healed." If the Son of God did not assume our corruptible, mortal flesh, then there is no salvation for our corruptible, mortal flesh. But the Apostle says, "If the Spirit of Him who raised Christ from the dead dwells in you then He who raised Christ from the dead will give life to your mortal bodies also." In the resurrection "this corruptible shall put on incorruption" and "this mortal shall put on immortality", and death and its sting are swallowed up in victory.
-CryptoLutheran
Right now he is in heaven, so no he is not flesh. He is spirit. When he comes to the earth he will appear in his fleshly clothing. John1: 1-2, 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning.
John 1:14 14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.
I believe that he has a heavenly body in heaven.
In this scripture it talks about putting on our heavenly bodies. So if we will have heavenly bodies then we know that Jesus is in a heavenly body.You're presuming heaven is a non-physical place. I'm not sure that can be gained from scripture. Heaven is a created realm, from what Revelation says of it.
You asked for my supposition, and this is the language I'm replying to and I don't recall demanding anything. Attacking semantics is not very dignified and forces me to question your character. You are free to believe as you wish, the content is ambiguous and we can only really grasp the broad stokes with what is biblically revealed.Well, if all you can offer is supposition, one wonders why you would, in turn, demand anything more from the rest of us.
In this scripture it talks about putting on our heavenly bodies. So if we will have heavenly bodies then we know that Jesus is in a heavenly body.
2 Cor: 5:1-5
5 For we know that if the tent that is our earthly home is destroyed, we have a building from God, a house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens. we groan, longing to put on our heavenly dwelling, we may not be found naked. may be swallowed up by life. who has given us the Spirit as a guarantee.
You asked for my supposition, and this is the language I'm replying to and I don't recall demanding anything. Attacking semantics is not very dignified and forces me to question your character. You are free to believe as you wish, the content is ambiguous and we can only really grasp the broad stokes with what is biblically revealed.
But at the resurrection we shall be raised up, bodily, and incorruptible and immortal--even as the Lord was raised.
-CryptoLutheran
Retaining all wounds we may receive in death— even as the Lord was raised?
I'm not sure what your angle is here. The OP has run its course yet you remain setting semantic traps. I'm happy to continue discussion but these remarks are not productive to that goal.Are you now saying there is not a definitive, biblical answer to your OP?
Long as we are on the earth we are in a flesh body. But we are not able to enter heaven in a flesh body. These body get sick and grow old. In heaven our bodies will not get sick or grow old.You are confusing the intermediate state with the final state.
2 Corinthians 5 is not talking about the final state, but the intermediate state, what happens between death and resurrection. You stop at verse 5, but you should have kept reading:
"So we are always of good courage. We know that while we are at home in the body we are away from the Lord, for we walk by faith, not by sight. Yes, we are of good courage, and we would rather be away from the body and at home with the Lord." - 2 Corinthians 5:6-8
Between death and resurrection we will be in the presence of the Lord. That is what Paul is talking about here.
But at the resurrection we shall be raised up, bodily, and incorruptible and immortal--even as the Lord was raised.
-CryptoLutheran
Long as we are on the earth we are in a flesh body. But we are not able to enter heaven in a flesh body. These body get sick and grow old. In heaven our bodies will not get sick or grow old.
So we are always of good courage. We know that while we are at home in the body we are away from the Lord, for we walk by faith, not by sight. Yes, we are of good courage, and we would rather be away from the body and at home with the Lord." - 2 Corinthians 5:6-8
This verse means at home in the body we are away from the lord but would rather be away from the body and at home with the lord. Leaving this fleshly body behind.
You are talking about the new earth. Rev:21:21 Then I saw “a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. 2 I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband.You are confused. Our hope isn't to spend eternity in "heaven", but to be resurrected on the Last Day and have everlasting life in the Age to Come, right here on planet earth. Isaiah 65:17-25, Revelation 21:1-4, Romans 8:18-25 , Psalm 102:25-26.
-CryptoLutheran
You are confused. Our hope isn't to spend eternity in "heaven", but to be resurrected on the Last Day and have everlasting life in the Age to Come, right here on planet earth. Isaiah 65:17-25, Revelation 21:1-4, Romans 8:18-25 , Psalm 102:25-26.
-CryptoLutheran
Funny how people are quick enough to admit that Jesus has a physical body (albeit glorified), and they often quote the verse that we will be like angels at the resurrection (who neither marry nor are given in marriage), and that we will be raised like Christ was, but no one ever seems to make the logical connection to say that angels have physical bodies. It's always the assertion that angels are only spirits. Yet, we saw Christ, after the resurrection, doing things much like an angel, appearing to people at will and ascending into Heaven just like the angels in Jacob's dream.
I doubt anyone has flesh when in heaven. A resurrected being (such as Jesus now is) will take on flesh (resurrected flesh) when appearing on earth (as he did during the 40 days after this resurrection) and cast off the flesh (resurrected flesh) when going back to heaven. When Jesus comes again to earth at his second coming, he will have flesh (resurrected flesh) again. When in heaven, believers will not have flesh. But once in the new heavens and new earth, we will have flesh (resurrected flesh).is Jesus still flesh?
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