Is it wrong to listen to Heavy Metal and Ozzie Osborne?

[Glaucus]

It's not necessarily wrong to listen to rock or metal music. A lot of it has dark and satanic terminology, and that should be avoided. The genre itself isn't bad. Just like rap. The genre isn't bad on its own, but you should avoid the music degrading women, glorifying drugs, killing and gang banging, etc. Or country music. The genre isn't bad, but drunkenness and suicidal themes should be avoided. Common sense stuff for the Christian. As far as swearing in music, that's left up to your individual conscience. Words are what we make them.

 

[faroukfarouk]

1 John 1:5 English Standard Version (ESV)
Walking in the Light
“This is the message we have heard from him and proclaim to you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.”

Just be careful and not fall into the trap of following the ways of the world. For we are not a part of this world if we believe in Jesus Christ. The Holy Spirit will reveal to you whether it’s through your conscience (which I’m sure this is why you created this thread in the first place) or the Holy Spirit.

May the peace of Christ be with you.

I guess the tune and lyrics are two separate things, really, right?

 

[Mel2020]

I guess the tune and lyrics are two separate things, really, right?

We’ll without the lyrics it would only be a tune. But in this case there is lyrics and a tune. It worries me that people think it’s okay to listen to such darkness - when God is not of that and doesn’t darkness doesn’t surround Him. Says so in scripture. Feel free to debate to God about that.

 

[faroukfarouk]

We’ll without the lyrics it would only be a tune. But in this case there is lyrics and a tune. It worries me that people think it’s okay to listen to such darkness - when God is not of that and doesn’t darkness doesn’t surround Him. Says so in scripture. Feel free to debate to God about that.

Some ppl even try to moralize against instrumental heavy metal; I guess that was my point also.

 

[faroukfarouk]

PS: @Mel2020 Have you acquired a liking for heavy metal, as well as of other styles?

 

[Mel2020]

PS: @Mel2020 Have you acquired a liking for heavy metal, as well as of other styles?

Nope, growing up I was into rap, pop, r&b.... some alternative but yea, it all changed when I met Jesus

 

[faroukfarouk]

Nope, growing up I was into rap, pop, r&b.... some alternative but yea, it all changed when I met Jesus

It's a life changing event, indeed.

Do you still appreciate some pop and rock, maybe?

 

[YCGP]

I recently took a whole bunch of songs off my mp3 player because I felt it had a negative impact on me. What do I want to listen to songs for the nightclub for?

 

[gurneyhalleck1]

Yeah, but this thread is asking about Ozzy. Who wouldn’t benefit from some “Over the Mountain” or “Flying High Again”?!?

I recently took a whole bunch of songs off my mp3 player because I felt it had a negative impact on me. What do I want to listen to songs for the nightclub for?

 

[dzheremi]

I've never been a fan of heavy metal myself, but I cannot deny that early 1980s Ozzy Osbourne is responsible for some of my favorite music videos ever. I was just watching "Bark at the Moon" the other day...look at how maniacally happy he is with his science kit and apple juice (?) at the beginning, and all the fun Halloween costume store masks and puffy pirate shirts throughout! It reminds me of a 1950s B movie. It's ridiculous. I can't think of anything that has been as fun in music since this particular time period.

Truly the 1980s were the golden age of the smoke machine industry, as well. RIP, music videos. (And music with electric guitars in it, from what I hear.)

 

[dzheremi]

Good call on getting rid of 'club' music though, YCGP. Whenever I think of that stuff (or even worse, see a person around my age who listens to it and tries to live out its message, either explicitly in going after money/women/men/the 'hook up' and party culture, or passively in terms of absorbing those anti-values), I think of St. Paul's wise words in 1 Corinthians 13: When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child; but when I became a man, I put away childish things.

 

[gurneyhalleck1]

Iron Maiden
Dio
Ozzy
Ratt

Good times, man...

I've never been a fan of heavy metal myself, but I cannot deny that early 1980s Ozzy Osbourne is responsible for some of my favorite music videos ever. I was just watching "Bark at the Moon" the other day...look at how maniacally happy he is with his science kit and apple juice (?) at the beginning, and all the fun Halloween costume store masks and puffy pirate shirts throughout! It reminds me of a 1950s B movie. It's ridiculous. I can't think of anything that has been as fun in music since this particular time period.

Truly the 1980s were the golden age of the smoke machine industry, as well. RIP, music videos. (And music with electric guitars in it, from what I hear.)

 

[David Bogle]

I like the way many of Ozzie Osborne's and Black Sabbath's songs sound. Ozzie Osborne is known to bite the heads off animals and have a satanic appearance. Supposedly he has stopped doing drugs and become quite religious in the Church of England.

Even if Ozzie Osborne is a Hell-bound Satanist, would it be wrong to listen to his music? There are plenty of raunchy country singers, but I don't see too many Christians condemning country music.

His song, Mr Crowley, sounds like it's condemning the famous occultist Allister Crowley.
"Mr. Crowley, what went wrong in your head?
Oh, Mr. Crowley, did you talk with the dead?
Your life style to me seemed so tragic
With the thrill of it all
You fooled all the people with magic
You waited on Satan's call
Mr. Charming, did you think you were pure
Mr. Alarming, in nocturnal rapport
Uncovering things that were sacred manifest on this Earth
Conceived in the eye of a secret
And they scattered the afterbirth"

All the members of Black Sabbath are actually Christian, especially the bassist/songwriter Geezer Butler. They actually mention God in several songs. One that stands out in particular is After Forever. It is a song denouncing atheism and supporting Christianity. The name Black Sabbath is based on a 60s horror movie. Ozzy isn’t that bad anymore. God bless.

 

[RobNJ]

Holy Senseless Thread Necromancy, Batman!!!

 

[gurneyhalleck1]

 

[☦Marius☦]

I like the way many of Ozzie Osborne's and Black Sabbath's songs sound. Ozzie Osborne is known to bite the heads off animals and have a satanic appearance. Supposedly he has stopped doing drugs and become quite religious in the Church of England.

Even if Ozzie Osborne is a Hell-bound Satanist, would it be wrong to listen to his music? There are plenty of raunchy country singers, but I don't see too many Christians condemning country music.

His song, Mr Crowley, sounds like it's condemning the famous occultist Allister Crowley.
"Mr. Crowley, what went wrong in your head?
Oh, Mr. Crowley, did you talk with the dead?
Your life style to me seemed so tragic
With the thrill of it all
You fooled all the people with magic
You waited on Satan's call
Mr. Charming, did you think you were pure
Mr. Alarming, in nocturnal rapport
Uncovering things that were sacred manifest on this Earth
Conceived in the eye of a secret
And they scattered the afterbirth"

Ozzy is the soul mate of the agnostic. Much like any skeptic he is tortured by the great question of the heart. Take the lyrics of "God is dead?"


Lost in the darkness
I fade from the light
Faith of my father, my brother, my Maker and Savior
Help me make it through the night
Blood on my conscience
And murder in mind
Out of the gloom I rise up from my tomb into impending doom
Now my body is my shrine

The blood runs free
The rain turns red
Give me the wine
You keep the bread
The voices echo in my head
Is God alive or is God dead?
Is God dead?

Rivers of evil
Run through dying land
Swimming in sorrow, they kill, steal, and borrow. There is no tomorrow
For the sinners will be damned
Ashes to ashes
You cannot exhume a soul
Who do you trust when corruption and lust, creed of all the unjust,
Leaves you empty and unwhole?

When will this nightmare be over? Tell me!
When can I empty my head?
Will someone tell me the answer?
Is God really dead?
Is God really dead?

To safeguard my philosophy
Until my dying breath
I transfer from reality
Into a living dead
I empathize with enemies
Until the timing's right
With God and Satan at my side
From darkness will come light

I watch the rain
As it turns red
Give me more wine
I don't need bread
These riddles that live in my head
I don't believe that God is dead
God is dead

Nowhere to run
Nowhere to hide
Wondering if we will meet again
On the other side
Do you believe a word
What the Good Book said?
Or is it just a holy fairytale
And God is dead?
God is Dead [x4]

Right!

But still the voices in my head
Are telling me that god is dead
The blood pours down
The rain turns red
I don't believe that God is dead



Beautiful as is every one of his songs. I think his message, though dark and filled with hopelessness, is a good contrast to what the Christian life gives.

 

[ArmyMatt]

Holy Senseless Thread Necromancy, Batman!!!

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there he is. I was waiting for it.

 

[MariaJLM]

Music is only what we make it. Music, like any form of art, impacts different people in different ways. If you react negatively to metal and it makes you do negative things then don't listen to it. Nobody knows us as well as ourselves.

 

[gurneyhalleck1]

The funny thing is people think of Satan when they think of any metal band, but the don’t when they think of Lady Gaga. When I grew up listening to Iron Maiden, I was in love with them because they sang about Alexander the Great, pharaohs, the RAF in WWII, Icarus, war, Samuel Taylor Coleridge, and Dune.

What does Lady Gaga sing about? SEX, gays and lesbians, filth....and occasionally she hangs with Bradley Cooper and gets mushy.

Which one is more evil—-metal or hip hop/rap? Did Ronnie James Dio sing about drive-bys and rape and using women like a hunk of meat? No! He sang about Holy Divers and swords! Lol

 

[MariaJLM]

The funny thing is people think of Satan when they think of any metal band, but the don’t when they think of Lady Gaga. When I grew up listening to Iron Maiden, I was in love with them because they sang about Alexander the Great, pharaohs, the RAF in WWII, Icarus, war, Samuel Taylor Coleridge, and Dune.

What does Lady Gaga sing about? SEX, gays and lesbians, filth....and occasionally she hangs with Bradley Cooper and gets mushy.

Which one is more evil—-metal or hip hop/rap? Did Ronnie James Dio sing about drive-bys and rape and using women like a hunk of meat? No! He sang about Holy Divers and swords! Lol

Black Sabbath, despite their reputation, has some surprisingly Christian lyrics. I've gone over it with a friend of mine. I think Ozzy himself is at least marginally Anglo-Catholic.