Is it wrong, even sinful, to withhold sex?
You know, it would make your spouse disappointed of you.
Is it a sign that marriage love have declined?
And as has already been pointed out (though perhaps I should have been more clear), it isn't sinful, because it's not violating a command.the reason why there is an emphasis on that side of the issue is because the thread is about that side of the issue. is it sinful to withhold sex, not whether it is sinful to demand sex.
I don't think it's right to withhold sex if your doing it to in some way 'hurt' your spouse. That shows a problem with the heart I think which probably indicates it's sinful. If there is a more sympathetic reason why the two aren't having sex I don't think it's sinful (1 Corinthians 7:3-6 The husband must fulfill his duty to his wife, and likewise also the wife to her husband. The wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does; and likewise also the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does. Stop depriving one another, except by agreement for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer, and come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control. But this I say by way of concession, not of command. -- I have always interpreted the last sentence to mean it is not a command, but that it's not good to deprive one another.) If there is an agreement between the two parties then it's not sinful.
and has already been pointed out (though perhaps we should have been more clear... not sure how though). It is sinful because it is violating a commandment.And as has already been pointed out (though perhaps I should have been more clear), it isn't sinful, because it's not violating a command.
Women today do not understand their role and place.
Which commandment?and has already been pointed out (though perhaps we should have been more clear... not sure how though). It is sinful because it is violating a commandment.
Which commandment?
3.) 1 Corinthians 7:3-6 is very clear and to the point. This greatly supports Ephesians 5:21-24 . Yes Paul said this is NOT a command from God but it is very wise teaching Paul clearly point out how important this is in real life.
1 Corinthians 7:3-6
3 The husband should fulfill his wife’s sexual needs, and the wife should fulfill her husband’s needs.
4 The wife gives authority over her body to her husband, and the husband gives authority over his body to his wife.
5 Do not deprive each other of sexual relations, unless you both agree to refrain from sexual intimacy for a limited time so you can give yourselves more completely to prayer. Afterward, you should come together again so that Satan won’t be able to tempt you because of your lack of self-control.
6 I say this as a concession, not as a command.
I find many who think its not a sin usually think it because they deny sex or have no real interest in sex. Or they just don't think they should have to deal with sex like the bible says. In other words "You can't make me do it!". Again, some, not all.
Okay, that's what I thought. I already addressed that, in post 47 where I stated that this passage doesn't stop with verse 5. Verse 6: "But this I say by way of concession, not of command." In other words, it's not a command that it would be violated.As many have already posted
1 Corinthians 7:1-5
Now concerning the matters about which you wrote: It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman.”
2 But because of the temptation to sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband.
3 The husband should give to his wife her conjugal rights, and likewise the wife to her husband.
4 For the wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does. Likewise the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does.
5 Do not deprive one another, except perhaps by agreement for a limited time, that you may devote yourselves to prayer; but then come together again, so that Satan may not tempt you because of your lack of self-control.
Except that a statement starting with "I wish" wouldn't need to be distinguished as not being a command. However, the previous verses would need that clarification.you just took vs 6 out of context
verse 6 is referring to what he said in 1-2 and is about to say, not what he said in 3-5
6 Now as a concession, not a command, I say this 7 I wish that all were as I myself am. But each has his own gift from God, one of one kind and one of another.
Verse 3-5 are commands. It is an aside. the language is that of a command. not a suggestion.
The same argument could be made, though, in the other direction, that those who insist that sex is a command have a very real interest in sex.I find many who think its not a sin usually think it because they deny sex or have no real interest in sex. Or they just don't think they should have to deal with sex like the bible says. In other words "You can't make me do it!". Again, some, not all.
I do see a lot of wisdom in this approach. Perhaps that's why adultery is considered so wrong from a biblical standpoint, is because husbands are supposed to have enough wives to be able to satisfy them within the parameters of their married state. They'd be less likely to seek satisfaction outside of marriage, what with all the wives they've got already. If one isn't in the mood, surely another one would be on any given day.***************inkaboutit4u.com reply ***********************
This is why God promoted polygamy in the Bible.
When a wife rebels and refuses to meet the man's sexual needs he goes and gets another wife.
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This is why God promoted polygamy in the Bible.
When a wife rebels and refuses to meet the man's sexual needs he goes and gets another wife. The church has the wrong teaching on polygamy. The only option the Church has is Divorce.
While it does exist, my argument is at least biblically based. Deniers of sex have no grounds to stand on.The same argument could be made, though, in the other direction, that those who insist that sex is a command have a very real interest in sex.
You obviously didn't read my post. Verse6 is referring to 1-2 and 7. It ends at 7 not 6. In fact commentators set 6 and 7 apart as a pair. 3-5 is a command.Except that a statement starting with "I wish" wouldn't need to be distinguished as not being a command. However, the previous verses would need that clarification.
you just took vs 6 out of context
verse 6 is referring to what he said in 1-2 and is about to say, not what he said in 3-5
6 Now as a concession, not a command, I say this 7 I wish that all were as I myself am. But each has his own gift from God, one of one kind and one of another.
Verse 3-5 are commands. It is an aside. the language is that of a command. not a suggestion.
verse 1-2 and 7 onwards, however, He is not commanding us to be single like he is. and he is not commanding us to be married. He is advising it, but recognizing that it isn't possible for everyone. And it isn't possible for the same reason that he commands husbands and wives to not withhold from their spouse.
Paul is preaching a sermon, and it goes like this:
verse 1-2 "it is good for a man to remain single and celibate. but because of temptation, he should get married."
verse 3-5 "and by the way, when you get married, do not withhold yourself from your spouse, because temptation could cause your spouse to fall"
verse 6-7 "now back to what I was saying about it being good for a man to remain single and celibate, but that he should get married.
this is not a command, but a common understanding. To remain celibate and single without temptation is great. I recommend it, but it requires a gift from God. and if you can remain single without temptation, then you are fine to do so if you choose.
But otherwise, it is understood that you need to get married. I'm not commanding you to get married either, but if you can't remain single without temptation, then you it strongly advised that you get married.
you are not sinning either way. But it is in your best interest to get married if you have a problem with celibacy."
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