Yeshua HaDerekh
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John 15:10
If you keep my commands, you will remain in my love, just as I have kept my Father’s commands and remain in his love.
You hit the nail on the head when you wrote "walls of text". Says these are done "on the fly". With only 1 minute between enormous posts. The WPM rate must be off the charts.
How can you say that? Jesus is differentiating between his commands and the Father's commands. If they were the same, he would have said one or the other, not both separately.That just proves my point
I agree. I think his aim is to reprogram readers to his POV. That requires a lot of reading and a lot of gullibility. Notice he is trying to get promises from readers that they will keep to his talking points. I refuse. It's a brainwashing tactic. These folks are sheep stealers. We are their prime target. Reader beware.I have made my share of long posts before from my Google Documents (So as to show the weight of Scripture in supporting a particular belief), but I would not continue to keep posting super long walls of texts over and over and over and over again. The only time my posts can get a little long (sometimes) is if I replied to someone who said a lot and we are deep in conversation about many things. But even then I try to break down my responses into smaller bite sized posts so as to reply to them (So others can read, too). I believe he has taken the long post allowance waaaay beyond the threshold. For people are busy and wading through a long endless sea of super long posts is never effective to tell people about what you believe to be true. I believe an occasional long post is okay, but if everyone of your posts is a wall of text, people are just going to tune you out because it does not seem like you are taking the time to truly listen to them (in what they have to say). It is just using the copying and paste tool with them not really listening. For I had 4 long walls of text posted to me last night after I said that was my last reply on the matter of the Sabbath.
I agree. I think his aim is to reprogram readers to his POV. That requires a lot of reading and a lot of gullibility. Notice he is trying to get promises from readers that they will keep to his talking points. I refuse. It's a brainwashing tactic. These folks are sheep stealers. We are their prime target. Reader beware.
Jesus came to seek and to save those who were lost.
These folks have come to seek and to enslave the saved.
(and to steal their salvation in the process)
How can you say that? Jesus is differentiating between his commands and the Father's commands. If they were the same, he would have said one or the other, not both separately.
A house divided has nothing to do with it. Why would you play that card here? Are you claiming the two covenants are the same now? To prevent "a house divided"? That ridiculous.Yeshua says it Himself! "I do the will of my Father." His commands can not be different, otherwise there is a house divided. You need to know and understand what the 2 Covenants are.
A house divided has nothing to do with it. Why would you play that card here? Are you claiming the two covenants are the same now? To prevent "a house divided"? That ridiculous.
Hebrews 8:9
It will not be like the covenant I made with their ancestors when I took them by the hand to lead them out of Egypt, because they did not remain faithful to my covenant, and I turned away from them, declares the Lord.
Yeshua says it Himself! "I do the will of my Father." His commands can not be different, otherwise there is a house divided. You need to know and understand what the 2 Covenants are.
A new covenant is a new agreement. You can't change where something is written and then declare it is a new covenant agreement? The agreement has to change for it to be a change of covenant.BOTH were with the House of Israel and the House of Judah. It was not like it because we did not keep it. The new has a new mediator (Yeshua). Now the laws are written not on stone but on our hearts!
Now the main point of what we are saying is this: We have such a high priest, one who sat down at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in heaven, a minister in the sanctuary and the true tabernacle that the Lord, not man, set up. For every high priest is appointed to offer both gifts and sacrifices. So this one too had to have something to offer. Now if he were on earth, he would not be a priest, since there are already priests who offer the gifts prescribed by the law. The place where they serve is a sketch and shadow of the heavenly sanctuary, just as Moses was warned by God as he was about to complete the tabernacle. For he says, “See that you make everything according to the design shown to you on the mountain.”Now the main point of what we are saying is this: We have such a high priest, one who sat down at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in heaven, a minister in the sanctuary and the true tabernacle that the Lord, not man, set up. For every high priest is appointed to offer both gifts and sacrifices. So this one too had to have something to offer. Now if he were on earth, he would not be a priest, since there are already priests who offer the gifts prescribed by the law. The place where they serve is a sketch and shadow of the heavenly sanctuary, just as Moses was warned by God as he was about to complete the tabernacle. For he says, “See that you make everything according to the design shown to you on the mountain.”
But now Jesus has obtained a superior ministry, since the covenant that he mediates is also better and is enacted on better promises. For if that first covenant had been faultless, no one would have looked for a second one. But showing its fault, God says to them, “Look, the days are coming, says the Lord, when I will complete a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah. “It will not be like the covenant that I made with their fathers, on the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of Egypt, because they did not continue in my covenant and I had no regard for them, says the Lord. “For this is the covenant that I will establish with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord. I will put my laws in their minds and I will inscribe them on their hearts. And I will be their God and they will be my people. “And there will be no need at all for each one to teach his countryman or each one to teach his brother saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ since they will all know me, from the least to the greatest. “For I will be merciful toward their evil deeds, and their sins I will remember no longer.” When he speaks of a new covenant, he makes the first obsolete. Now what is growing obsolete and aging is about to disappear.
I will give them one heart and I will put a new spirit within them; I will remove the hearts of stone from their bodies and I will give them tender hearts, so that they may follow my statutes and observe my regulations and carry them out. Then they will be my people, and I will be their God.
The work of the Holy Spirit is internal, changing our hearts from hearts of stone to hearts of flesh. He creates in us a love for God and a desire to obey His commands. As a result, we can draw near to Him, entering into an intimate relationship free from fear and dread. The New Covenant enables us to become His people, and He becomes our God. This kind of intimacy is something that the Old Covenant could never produce. The New removes the curse, not just a cover for sin.
You are not in agreement with God's WORD. The Apostle Paul indicates that they are different. Even Christ makes the distinction. Scripture below.
1 Corinthians 9:21
To those not having the law I became like one not having the law (though I am not free from God’s law but am under Christ’s law), so as to win those not having the law.
John 15:10
If you keep my commands, you will remain in my love, just as I have kept my Father’s commands and remain in his love.
1) I wasn't talking to you.
2) I asked for the scripture from the law that said doing good on the Sabbath is lawful.
Apparently there is no such thing. Which proves my point.
The will of the Father is that grace REPLACES the law. That's what that verse is about. Look at the previous verse in context. Hebrews confirms this.
John 1:16-17
Out of his fullness we have all received grace in place of grace already given. 17 For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.
Hebrews 8:7, 13
For if there had been nothing wrong with that first covenant, no place would have been sought for another.
13 By calling this covenant “new,” he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear.
Everything that God requires?
Are you saying that Christ's atonement is somehow not sufficient to salvation? That there are "requirements" beyond that? Why would there be "requirements"? Requirements for what? To what end? Salvation? Works to be saved? Or works to stay saved? Is that what you are saying?
Romans 4:4-5
Now to the one who works, wages are not credited as a gift but as an obligation. 5 However, to the one who does not work but trusts God who justifies the ungodly, their faith is credited as righteousness.
On this page there are only 1 to 3 minutes between HUGE posts from the OP at the top of the page. See posts #561 - #564. Are we to believe that these are composed "on the fly" and not copy/paste from a database? The evidence says otherwise.
Please stop replying to me in regards to the Sabbath.
It's done.
Over.
No more.
It's dead and buried.
It's water under the bridge.
It's put out to pasture.
I made my last appeal.
I am finished.
No more words by you in regards to the weekly Sabbath will be accepted or received at this time.
All walls of text to me will continue to be ignored.
In fact, I have no idea what you said to me except that my guess is that it has to do with the heretical belief that the keeping of the weekly Sabbath is a required part of our salvation.
But please. Let it go; And please stop replying to me on this matter.
Please. Just stop. Don't do it. I know you may want to copy and paste yet another endless continuation of super insanely long posts that I will never read.... but I ask you in kindness to stop.
I know the urge is hard to resist. You want to use your keyboard. But please. I beg you. Stop. Just stop. Don't do it.
Pretty please. With sugar on top.... for the stop.
Thank you;
And may God's love shine upon you.
Side Note:
You quoted me with 3 super long posts last night to my final reply to you on the Sabbath and I said that was it. I said to you it was one last appeal. This means I did not want any more posts to you on the topic if you disagreed. So you don't listen to well. If you don't listen to well to me, what makes me trust that you are listening to God in what His Word says? In fact, this morning, I seen another super insanely long post to me. Wow. Insane. You know I do not want to argue this with you as per violation of Titus 3:9, but you really don't care if I violate God's Word from my perspective. Again, this like eating bacon in front of a person who told you they are highly offended by the consumption of pork.
You hit the nail on the head when you wrote "walls of text". Says these are done "on the fly". With only 1 minute between enormous posts. The WPM rate must be off the charts.
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