Is it possible to keep the 10 commandments?

[TheBibleIsTruth]

So WHO is he speaking about? Who was passing judgement? The Jews who also keep them or the pagans who didn't?

Christians

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Christians

Other Christians were passing judgement on Christians?

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

You fail to realise that till the cross the OT Law stood. After this it had no bearing on salvation. See Galatians and Romans

it never did, that is what YOU fail to realize...

 

[TheBibleIsTruth]

Other Christians were passing judgement on Christians?

Yes why should this surprise you? Jewish believes were always judging Gentile believes

 

[TheBibleIsTruth]

it never did, that is what YOU fail to realize...

Read your Bible more

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Read your Bible more

Looks like maybe it is YOU who needs to...

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Yes why should this surprise you? Jewish believes were always judging Gentile believes

There is nothing in the 10 Commandments regarding any of it. “Having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.” Paul mentions that these laws were “against us” and “contrary” to us. Would it be contrary to Christians to refrain from idolatry, using God’s name in vain, dishonoring parents, murder, etc, the sins rebuked by the Ten Commandments? Both Jewish and gentile Christians would be keeping these.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

You fail to realise that till the cross the OT Law stood. After this it had no bearing on salvation. See Galatians and Romans

So you are saying the 10 are no longer binding? Was it the violation of these principles that caused the death of Yeshua? Could they have been set aside or changed to accommodate the carnal mind, He need not have died?

 

[Yarddog]

Is it possible or not to keep the 10 commandments?

Not.
If one could keep the 10 Commandments they wouldn't need Jesus.

If it's not possible to keep the commandments, why do Jesus and also Paul say we are to keep the commandments?

Jesus' commandments are not the 10 Commandments. Jesus fulfilled the Law, which the 10 Commandments are part of. For Christians we seek to obey Jesus' Commandments.

John 13: 34 "A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another, even as I have loved you, that you also love one another.
John 15:
12 "This is My commandment, that you love one another, just as I have loved you.
17 "This I command you, that you love one another.

John 15:10
If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love; just as I have kept My Father’s commandments and abide in His love.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Jesus' commandments are not the 10 Commandments. Jesus fulfilled the Law, which the 10 Commandments are part of. For Christians we seek to obey Jesus' Commandments.

John 13: 34 "A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another, even as I have loved you, that you also love one another.
John 15:
12 "This is My commandment, that you love one another, just as I have loved you.
17 "This I command you, that you love one another.

John 15:10
If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love; just as I have kept My Father’s commandments and abide in His love.

So you are telling everyone that they need not follow the 10? How do you reconcile Matthew 5:18-19 ? So HOW do you say you keep His Command to love one another? So you are saying that His Commandments are DIFFERENT than the Fathers commandments He kept?

 

[GodsGrace101]

Here in England we need lawyers not the church

Oh.
I thought you were Christian and also wanted to follow God's law.
Sorry.

 

[GodsGrace101]

If the ten commandments are read at face value and nothing added to them by fanciful theology then keeping them may be possible or at least may have been possible in the times that immediately followed their first proclamation.

The above cannot be true.. as to the fanciful theology, I mean.
Jesus said if we hate our brother we have already killed him.

So I ask you: What does Do Not Steal mean?
Does it mean only to steal a book from the bookstore?
Or could it mean more since there are other things to steal?

 

[Phil 1:21]

You must be writing this from a prison cell

Why would you say that?

 

[GodsGrace101]

Sorry, maybe just semantics, but God does not "try" anything. "Try" implies a potential for failure. What God says, He does. God is successful in everything single thing He decrees.

The reason man does not listen is because he (man) is not the elect of God. God's calling on the elect is effectual. Man does not have any power to overrule God.

You're right. Bad wording.
God did not TRY everything .... He DID send prophets, kings, judges, laws, He did DO all these things.

I repeat, it's US who failed. We humans are fragile and we will sin every now and then....but now under the New Covenant, it is more possible to keep sin away from us, although not completely.

As far as the elect....
Who are these elect?

 

[TheBibleIsTruth]

So you are saying the 10 are no longer binding? Was it the violation of these principles that caused the death of Yeshua? Could they have been set aside or changed to accommodate the carnal mind, He need not have died?

Are you saved by the Ten Commandments or by Grace? Is it Faith or the keeping of the Ten Commandments that will see you to heaven?

 

[TheBibleIsTruth]

Oh.
I thought you were Christian and also wanted to follow God's law.
Sorry.

It is obvious that you don't know what you are talking about

 

[GodsGrace101]

There is nothing in the 10 Commandments regarding any of it. “Having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.” Paul mentions that these laws were “against us” and “contrary” to us. Would it be contrary to Christians to refrain from idolatry, using God’s name in vain, dishonoring parents, murder, etc, the sins rebuked by the Ten Commandments? Both Jewish and gentile Christians would be keeping these.

Could you please speak more about the laws that were contrary to us?

The Moral Law will NEVER be abolished as some believe.

 

[GodsGrace101]

Not.
If one could keep the 10 Commandments they wouldn't need Jesus.

Jesus' commandments are not the 10 Commandments. Jesus fulfilled the Law, which the 10 Commandments are part of. For Christians we seek to obey Jesus' Commandments.

John 13: 34 "A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another, even as I have loved you, that you also love one another.
John 15:
12 "This is My commandment, that you love one another, just as I have loved you.
17 "This I command you, that you love one another.

John 15:10
If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love; just as I have kept My Father’s commandments and abide in His love.

Would you say that Jesus' commandments encompass the 10?
Please clarify.

 

[GodsGrace101]

It is obvious that you don't know what you are talking about

In that case, you really should not reply to my posts.

 

[TheBibleIsTruth]

In that case, you really should not reply to my posts.

I agree. Although it was you who comments on my posts