Is it possible that some of Gods chosen will not end up in heaven?

[ilovejcsog]

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[ilovejcsog]

I figured that's what you meant but it would have been easier on us if you had said the new earth, lol
That's a long time away, I can't wait that long.

 

[Carl Emerson]

Jesus cannot be mocked when people He saved always turned back to their own vomits. It is that OSAS encourages people to return to their vomit, that I declare my personal war on this evil doctrine.

Did you not read Jeremiah?

 

[Charlie24]

It is not a matter of denying anything, it's all about letting scripture interpret it's self.

Would you feel better if we snipped Jer 31 and 32?

This is the point - until you have an interpretation that is consistent with all of scripture, better to offer your theories to the One who knows rather than broadcast your offering prematurely.

Not going to argue about. It's plainly written in scripture, you've seen it.

I'm a Baptist, it was hard for me to. You still have eternal security so don't worry about it.

 

[ilovejcsog]

The argument against OSAS seems to be that they think that we believe that so that we can sin anytime we want and not lose our salvation. But we are Christians and are just as much against sinning as those who don't believe in osas. No Christian if they are truly Christians want to practice sin.
It has never once come into my head that I am going to go and sin because I have a free ride to salvation no matter what I do..

 

[Charlie24]

The argument against OSAS seems to be that they think that we believe that so that we can sin anytime we want and not lose our salvation. But we are Christians and are just as much against sinning as those who don't believe in osas. No Christian if they are truly Christians want to practice sin.
It has never once come into my head that I am going to go and sin because I have a free ride to salvation no matter what I do..

Paul discusses this very thing in Rom. 6. He is saying that grace does not give us a licence to sin.

He makes the case that being "in Christ" sin shall not have domination over the believer as it did before coming to Christ. That doesn't mean we no longer sin, it means we have been set free from the bondage of sin, in other words, we have no excuse for continuing to practice sin.

I'm sorry but OSAS is not a true statement. I have shown proof of that in previous posts. We must keep our faith to the very end, sad to say, some don't. Something in life, whatever it may be, takes their faith and they never want anything to do with Christ from that point.

When Paul knew he would soon be executed in Rome, he wrote to Timothy saying,

11 Tim. 4:6-7
6 For I am now ready to be offered, and the time of my departure is at hand.
7 I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith:

We must keep our faith to the end!

 

[Charles Kanyuga]

No! every one who is in Christ is already in Heaven.